Marlboro 100 Extraction expermint

[DrBeaker]

I use to love marlboro 100 and I had a carton left.
I took a pack and removed all the tobacco and put it in a jar.
Added 150ml pg
Microwaved 20seconds at a time shaking and resting till it cooled.
Let it set over night.
Heated it up again for 30sec to aid filtering.
Filtered in 1 coffee filter
Filtered in 2 coffee filters
Filtered in 4 coffee filters
Filtrate is dark but clear
I don't like how dark it is and it tastes like and smells like grass clipings.
I took a long thin funnel and one cotton ball and smashed it into the tip hard with a dowel.
Placed the funnel into a 100ml graduated cylinder and put in the closet.
Its slow going about 1 drop every 20 sec.

I know cigarette extraction is probably not a great idea with all the chemicals bt adds.
I just wanted to give it a try and see if I can get the flavor I loved out of it.
I am concerned with how dark it is and filtering doesn't seam to be helping.
I don't want to destroy my clearos with gunk any sugestions?
Thinking ill try it in a cart.
Thinking when its done filtering ill make.
10% extract
Pg/vg nic to make it 36mg/ml
Probably make 10ml

Any thoughts?

 

[DrBeaker]

I made the following from this extraction.

In a 10ml plastic bottle with a dropper tip was added.
5ml of 100 mg/ml
1ml of the extracted Marlboro 100
This was placed in an 1100watt microwave for 10seconds shaken for a few minutes.
Back in the microwave for 9 seconds and shaken.
4ml vg was then added
Microwave for 9 seconds shaken.
This produced a clear honey colored e-liquid.
I filled a new 510 cart and tested at 3.5v on a 1300mah vision spinner

The flavor is rich but is kind of sweet. That surprises me because I don't think of Marlboro 100's as having a sweet flavor.
I knew the nicotine was a bit high so I added about 2ml more vg. As my cart is full I can't test it right now so I will let it steep and try it later.
Note there is some sort of dirty ashtray flavor there or at least what I think an ashtray would taste like if you licked it.
There seams to be something missing. Maybe only extracting with pg misses some of the flavors that would have been extracted if vg was also used in the extraction.

 

[Just Don]

I wonder if the odd tastes are from the additives. They put in salt peter to keep the cig burning, and other chemicals that would normally get burned away if you lit it on fire. I wonder what tobacco PM uses to make Marlboro. If you find an ejuice that tastes like an actual Marlboro, please post it, I've been looking and can't find one. I lived in San Jose for 30+ years, out in Hollister now.

 

[DrBeaker]

Just Don
I'm vaping what I made yesterday after I added a little vg to it and now that it has steeped over night its better.
It turned out crystal clear light honey color so I put it in my vivi nova. It taste more like a Marlboro 100 toda than yesterday
I still feel like some characteristic is missing and I don't lnow how to describe it. I noticed when I first started diy looking for that tobacco
Flavor I use to like that molasses smell of an unburned cigarette. I can't detect thatin a burning cigerette. I used tobacco blend and a small amount of mtype for a few months. Now I can't tolarate m type in trace amounts.
As far as potassum nitrate (salt peter) I would have to look up its solubility in pg. I know its soluble in water. I used no water. The only moisture is what there was fresh out of the pack.
There may be a whole profile of flavors missing due to the solubility in any given solvent. If additional solivents are used sure you will getdifferent flavorsright along with what ever else bt has put in there.
I have some ideas to modify my process.
I know you will never get the exact flavor you get from a cigerett because after all its on fire!
We may be able to get close though.
Although now that I quit smoking I can't stand the stench left behind from a burning cigerett.
I like the way it smells before its burned. Strange...
I have not been too happy with any flavor for too long.
I'm about to go completely flavor free just pg vg and nic. Mabe a touch of koolida who knows.
I wish I had more friends that vape willing to test my juice.

 

[Dougiestyle]

I extract a cavendish blend tobacco from my local pipe shop. I can tell you there will be more of a flavor similar to the smell of the unburned tobacco. There is no real way to simulate burning tobacco (as analogs) by vaporizing a liquid. I like the smell of pipe tobacco, as you may like the smell of a freshly opened pack of ciggies. If that's what you're after, you're on the right path. If you're after the sensation/flavor of a burning analog, you're going to need some fire.

I stick to a 5% flavor from the tobacco extract. NET seems to go a long way with DIY. Maybe try a little lighter dose of your extract.

I generally use PGA with PG to extract. I warm the PGA/PG/Tobacco on a coffee/candle warmer plate until the PGA evaporates. I add an equal amount of PGA a second time, then filter. I reintroduce the liquid to the heated plate to remove the second application of PGA. This seems to yield a thorough extraction of the tobacco flavor. With PG being a mild solvent, it may produce results equal to mine, given the heat treatment. A scientist would need to chime in for surety.

I hope your blends work out. Keep us posted!

 

[Vash]

I extract a cavendish blend tobacco from my local pipe shop. I can tell you there will be more of a flavor similar to the smell of the unburned tobacco. There is no real way to simulate burning tobacco (as analogs) by vaporizing a liquid. I like the smell of pipe tobacco, as you may like the smell of a freshly opened pack of ciggies. If that's what you're after, you're on the right path. If you're after the sensation/flavor of a burning analog, you're going to need some fire.

I stick to a 5% flavor from the tobacco extract. NET seems to go a long way with DIY. Maybe try a little lighter dose of your extract.

I generally use PGA with PG to extract. I warm the PGA/PG/Tobacco on a coffee/candle warmer plate until the PGA evaporates. I add an equal amount of PGA a second time, then filter. I reintroduce the liquid to the heated plate to remove the second application of PGA. This seems to yield a thorough extraction of the tobacco flavor. With PG being a mild solvent, it may produce results equal to mine, given the heat treatment. A scientist would need to chime in for surety.

I hope your blends work out. Keep us posted!

What he said ^^^ This is the man that taught me how to extract and what he said is spot on.If you want the flavor of the smell of tobacco then extractions are the way to go You wont get that taste your after becasue as Dougie stated no burning .

 

[eHuman]

Unfortunately you stand a good chance of extracting at least some of the 500+ chemicals that they put in analogs.

 

[DrBeaker]

Unfortunately you stand a good chance of extracting at least some of the 500+ chemicals that they put in analogs.

Yes yes yes I am aware of that. And every different solivent used will extract different chemical additives.
The upside is that you are not catching it on fire and inhaling the somke.
I've done much worse to my body over the last 38 years of smoking.
Its just an experiment. Not something I plan on or suggest anyone vape forever.
IF the nasty ash tray tasting vape is going to keep you from going back to smoking cigaretts I think the temporary use/risk is worth it.
Hopefully after a while other other flavors will appeal to ones taste.
My thread on roasted tobacco extraction uses pg/vg to extract flavor. If your worried about chemicals whatever you do don't try that one.
The amount of chemicals that could possibly be present is very low.
Think about this I use 1ml flavoring in 10ml.
6ml of that was 100 mg/ml nic
So that's like 600mg in the whole bottle
Or terms we can understand 500 cigaretts
The flavoring is mostly pg very little is there that isn't pg.
And we are not burning it.
I thank the trade off/possible risk is so low its worth it.
I used 20 cigaretts to make this flavor and I have enough to make gallons of ejuice.
I could vape this stuff for years on what I use to smoke in 1 day.
So lets put this in perspective folks.


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[Trayce]

I also like vaping DIY NETs. It's nice to go back and forth between DIY TFA-type juices, NETs and once in awhile, plain old VG. The variety keeps it fresh. And we also don't really know the safety of flavors, as far as that goes. But there is something intrinsically pleasing about going back to an earthy, true tobacco taste after vaping sweet friut, dessert and mint juices. (Then after your fill of that, the TFA juices are nice to go back to.) I just have never vaped a synthetic e-liquid tobacco flavoring that tastes anything like tobacco. They all smell and taste like weird nuts or horrid perfume, imo.

But there is a way around all the chems... buying fresh, untreated whole leaf tobacco and making NETs from that. I don't have the time now, but making Cavendish from leaf tobacco is quite easy... just a matter of steaming the tobacco leaves for several hours then making cakes of the leaves and compressing the cakes under a weight. There are many vendors of whole leaf tobacco and it's quite cheap. You can get 1/4 - 1 lb for what you pay for a pouch of Captain Black at the local smoke shop. In the meantime, that pouch of Cpt Black will last a heck of a long time and the smog I breathe is probably worse for me than what I'm vaping.

 

[Danoman]

I'm seeing that variety in vaping is a GOOD thing...!!!

I also have some tobacco left from the bag of it I got before I quit and vaped exclusively. I've often thought of trying some different techniques and see what the best results were. I used to roll my own cigarettes (with filtered tubes) from bagged tobacco...

So, I think i'm gonna' slap some VG and about 3 standard cigarettes worth of tobacco and just let it sit in a covered glass jar, I really don't want to add any other chemicals to extract and just see how well it works while just sitting. (although, I do think i'll give it a quick warming up for 30 seconds or so in the wavum first, then just cap it and let it steep) Maybe a week or so...

 

[Levitas]

Yes yes yes I am aware of that. And every different solivent used will extract different chemical additives.
The upside is that you are not catching it on fire and inhaling the somke.
I've done much worse to my body over the last 38 years of smoking.
Its just an experiment. Not something I plan on or suggest anyone vape forever.
IF the nasty ash tray tasting vape is going to keep you from going back to smoking cigaretts I think the temporary use/risk is worth it.
Hopefully after a while other other flavors will appeal to ones taste.
My thread on roasted tobacco extraction uses pg/vg to extract flavor. If your worried about chemicals whatever you do don't try that one.
The amount of chemicals that could possibly be present is very low.
Think about this I use 1ml flavoring in 10ml.
6ml of that was 100 mg/ml nic
So that's like 600mg in the whole bottle
Or terms we can understand 500 cigaretts
The flavoring is mostly pg very little is there that isn't pg.
And we are not burning it.
I thank the trade off/possible risk is so low its worth it.
I used 20 cigaretts to make this flavor and I have enough to make gallons of ejuice.
I could vape this stuff for years on what I use to smoke in 1 day.
So lets put this in perspective folks.

It's true that the difference is you're not burning those chemicals, but wouldn't that mean vaping them posed a greater risk? Meaning, those additional chemicals they add in cigarettes to make them burn slower, consistently, make the flavor smoother, kill any pests on the tobacco, etc... I can't help but wonder how much of that gets burned away, where as in vaping you'll be getting them all?

Put it into perspective - you're using such a small amount, therefore it shouldn't be as harmful as smoking? But you're using a concentrate, so wouldn't that be worse? I can't say one way or the other, for in this I am completely inexperienced.

You're of course free to do as you please. I'm just posting as a concern for you, after all, there are literal poisons put into cigarettes. I've done many a research on the effects of those chemicals and how they react to nicotine/burning on our lungs and body. But I've never seen anything about vaporizing such chemicals... you're guinea pigging here

I wish you the best of luck, and hope that you attain your goals, safely and without repercussions.