Maxx Fusion Cartomizer Autopsy and Parts Explenation
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well remember Toni said "fillerless" she never said plastic so that could be a plus
Kanger has the same fillerless cartos without the transparent plastic.
Is there a US supplier? I'd love to experiment with them, provided they don't leak juice everywhere.
Don't think so (yet). Only seen them on the chinese market.
They have exactly the same description as the clear ones, so I wouldn't get my hopes up about the leakage being different.
The leakage appeared to be from the cracks that formed. At least that's what it looked like in the video.
Metal wouldn't crack, could be crimped tightly onto the battery mount, and could possibly have a silicone seal or likewise. As Rift said, with a clear plastic strip one could see how much juice is in the carto.
or one could just pop the cap off and look down ones tube... I dont care about clear, only performance..
The fact that I bothered to read the entirety of this 24 page thread should be an indicator of my interest in this product. I am fairly new to vaping, but very well read. In doing all of my background research (research is probably a strong term, as reading posts is a very small part of what I would call research) on the various vp's and accessories, I came across some entries on the bloog MF. Several of the users of the MF seemed so satisfied and loyal to the product that I started looking at these bloog specific threads.
First, I want to let you know (as a completely fresh set of eyes without any ties to the bloog products) that this is a great thread. Go easy on the guys that are dissecting these things and posting their pictures and observations. They are doing a great service to both the users of these cartomizers and to bloog. Regardless of the level of scientific fact that can be ascribed to their tinkering, they are presenting some great observations that are interesting and represent (to bloog) some very important development and marketing issues that they can now digest, evaluate, and, if warranted, address.
Having started with an Njoy, I can say with certainty that we are at the very beginning of what should an exciting and remarkable journey of product innovation and improvement. I find it invaluable that people like Leaford are attaching their names and reputations to what has largely been an anonymous mass produced market of products. Having a name attached puts a reputation at stake and lends itself to honest, dedicated attempts towards continual improvements in products. My perception thus far, is that these concerns have been heard and that someone (Leaford) has a personal stake in evaluating and (again...if warranted) finding solutions and improvements.
Had the kits for these pv's been in stock, I would have already tried one to see for myself what some of their more dedicated users have been raving about. I'm sold on dripping into mods for my time at home. However, am looking for something more convenient for my wife and for myself when I am out and about. The MF is at the top of my list of such a pv to try out. Since this thread has done nothing to dampen my interest in trying them out, those of you who are worried that this thread might somehow damage the company's credibility can relax a bit. The fact that Leaford and NYC..girl are actively involved in the discussions speaks volumes as to their level of commitment to their product and their customers. WTG you two! Being accessible to the users of your product will only improve your product and your reputation. Furthermore, Chris at CS's quick response to my inquiry about a projected availability date was very impressive. You have another solid employee there that was able to make a potential customer willing to wait for availability, rather than just try some other brand.
I see good things for bloog, if they keep up this level of interest and care for customers (and potential customers). I am amazed how willing they seem to be, to hear voices like the ones on this thread and respond without giving any indication of defensiveness or other selfish agenda. These appear to be people that are genuinely invested in having the best product out there, with a fully satisfied customer base. How refreshing and encouraging this has been to someone who runs his own company and sees firsthand how difficult customers can be and how poor customer service often is in this modern world.
Now get those kits back in stock and I'll give them a try. I am optimistic that you might have just the product to get my wife to give up those last few analogs each day and make the leap to complete non-smoker status.
VAPIN' was here..... Where might he be next?
First, I want to let you know (as a completely fresh set of eyes without any ties to the bloog products) that this is a great thread. Go easy on the guys that are dissecting these things and posting their pictures and observations. They are doing a great service to both the users of these cartomizers and to bloog. Regardless of the level of scientific fact that can be ascribed to their tinkering, they are presenting some great observations that are interesting and represent (to bloog) some very important development and marketing issues that they can now digest, evaluate, and, if warranted, address.
Having started with an Njoy, I can say with certainty that we are at the very beginning of what should an exciting and remarkable journey of product innovation and improvement. I find it invaluable that people like Leaford are attaching their names and reputations to what has largely been an anonymous mass produced market of products. Having a name attached puts a reputation at stake and lends itself to honest, dedicated attempts towards continual improvements in products. My perception thus far, is that these concerns have been heard and that someone (Leaford) has a personal stake in evaluating and (again...if warranted) finding solutions and improvements.
Had the kits for these pv's been in stock, I would have already tried one to see for myself what some of their more dedicated users have been raving about. I'm sold on dripping into mods for my time at home. However, am looking for something more convenient for my wife and for myself when I am out and about. The MF is at the top of my list of such a pv to try out. Since this thread has done nothing to dampen my interest in trying them out, those of you who are worried that this thread might somehow damage the company's credibility can relax a bit. The fact that Leaford and NYC..girl are actively involved in the discussions speaks volumes as to their level of commitment to their product and their customers. WTG you two! Being accessible to the users of your product will only improve your product and your reputation. Furthermore, Chris at CS's quick response to my inquiry about a projected availability date was very impressive. You have another solid employee there that was able to make a potential customer willing to wait for availability, rather than just try some other brand.
I see good things for bloog, if they keep up this level of interest and care for customers (and potential customers). I am amazed how willing they seem to be, to hear voices like the ones on this thread and respond without giving any indication of defensiveness or other selfish agenda. These appear to be people that are genuinely invested in having the best product out there, with a fully satisfied customer base. How refreshing and encouraging this has been to someone who runs his own company and sees firsthand how difficult customers can be and how poor customer service often is in this modern world.
Now get those kits back in stock and I'll give them a try. I am optimistic that you might have just the product to get my wife to give up those last few analogs each day and make the leap to complete non-smoker status.
VAPIN' was here..... Where might he be next?
Since I can no longer update the original post to include these images they will have to go here.
I had the opportunity to get my hands on another of my folks cartomizers today and I went about taking it apart to compare to the others I took apart.
Bellow are the images and once again have text in them to make things simple.
It seems that aside from the inconsistency of how much of the white silicone adhesive is applied and where. There is also an issue with the placement of the wick in some cartomizers. A few others have reported seeing coils off to one side as you can see in my images. If this is the case I can't see any way for that second layer of polyfill not to burn up a little. Its in direct contact with part of the coil.
This is also the first of the 4 I have taken apart that have had the imprints in the silicone O-ring. I have not seen this on any of the others. What this means is that in some of the cartomizers the heat is getting high enough to make an impact on the silicone. This could potentially be due to scattered resistance reads before the more rigorous QC was implemented. These cartos I believe were from the second batch.
These cartomizers were not dry burned as you can see there was still a decent amount of liquid in this one. All the cartomizers I have taken apart have been used till the taste has gotten weak. At which point they are replaced.
I had the opportunity to get my hands on another of my folks cartomizers today and I went about taking it apart to compare to the others I took apart.
Bellow are the images and once again have text in them to make things simple.
It seems that aside from the inconsistency of how much of the white silicone adhesive is applied and where. There is also an issue with the placement of the wick in some cartomizers. A few others have reported seeing coils off to one side as you can see in my images. If this is the case I can't see any way for that second layer of polyfill not to burn up a little. Its in direct contact with part of the coil.
This is also the first of the 4 I have taken apart that have had the imprints in the silicone O-ring. I have not seen this on any of the others. What this means is that in some of the cartomizers the heat is getting high enough to make an impact on the silicone. This could potentially be due to scattered resistance reads before the more rigorous QC was implemented. These cartos I believe were from the second batch.
These cartomizers were not dry burned as you can see there was still a decent amount of liquid in this one. All the cartomizers I have taken apart have been used till the taste has gotten weak. At which point they are replaced.
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I vowed not to post in these threads anymore, so I'll just ask/say this:
You got those images out of a freaking camcorder? That thing must have one heck of a macro lens, and even then you did a great job on these. Those tiny parts are shown in great detail, and your editing makes everything very clear. As a fellow sort-of-photographer, nicely done. I'm thoroughly impressed by these images.
You got those images out of a freaking camcorder? That thing must have one heck of a macro lens, and even then you did a great job on these. Those tiny parts are shown in great detail, and your editing makes everything very clear. As a fellow sort-of-photographer, nicely done. I'm thoroughly impressed by these images.
I vowed not to post in these threads anymore, so I'll just ask/say this:
You got those images out of a freaking camcorder? That thing must have one heck of a macro lens, and even then you did a great job on these. Those tiny parts are shown in great detail, and your editing makes everything very clear. As a fellow sort-of-photographer, nicely done. I'm thoroughly impressed by these images.
Hahahaha thanks man. Your sneaky looking at the meta data LOL. Yeah I switched to the Sony cam cause it was able to handle the macro better then the lens I had on the Canon 40D, resulting as you can see in better images.
Yeah, I had to look at the EXIF, because those images are impressive. I was going to take pictures of my parts, but I don't have a macro lens for the 5D. The closest I have is a 28-75 that claims to be 'macro', but doesn't come close to 1:1, and every other lens I have is a prime. I suppose I should dig out my little Sony P&S...it probably does macro quite well, if your camcorder is any indication...
Again, nicely done.
Yes, very impressive and much appreciated. But on the other hand it does make me pause before placing another order for some blanks as I intended when they came back in stock.
I continue to be so jealous of the wick length I see in other's pics. None of my wicks were anywhere near that long, in fact, most just barely spanned the tube. That laborer assembling mine was heavy on the adhesive, and short on the wick...
They are using prefills and don't refill, right? It's probably just a matter of using different descriptive terms, but I'd describe a carto that starts to run out as tasting a bit like dry cardboard but the flavor is still fine. For me, when the taste became "weak" it was the precursor to the decline into foulness. Could you ask them if it was weak or dry? I wouldn't expect weak to occur on the first fill, then again those pics show worse damage to the silicone than I've seen, and if the silicone causes the foulness...
Don't write them off, just take a wait and see approach. That's what I'm doing.
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