I've never used a carto; what are their insulators like? Your first statement does not seem to jibe with the rest of what you said. You're right that the problem here is with potential shorts. So why, then, do you go on to talk about resistance and sub-ohm? If the insulator fails and it shorts the battery, the coil won't matter whether it's two ohms or two-tenths of an ohm, because it's no longer part of the circuit. And as you said, "a short is a short, and a battery will not give a damn."
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Yes, I agree. Close attention to both atomizer and battery condition are essential to our better health regardless of what we run on.
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What would have happened if the protection circuits on that variable failed? I have had that happen and a runaway result.
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Straw man. We're talking about mech mods.What would have happened if the protection circuits on that variable failed? I have had that happen and a runaway result.
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Coils don't short out and the mod goes boom...... Fact Is you have to hold the fire button quite a while on a dead short too get smoke from the battery.... they have quite a long fuse.... you have to TRY... or be negligent for a mech to fail violently.
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Oh and any failure you can mention on a coilhead. Can be duplicated on a RBA.
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I don't think it will be much of a problem if your atty follows the correct pin config on mac's chart. I don't think you missed any history R
While reassuring, I don't think it's doing new users (the kind who come here asking these sorts of questions) any favors to recommend potentially-risky practices. Learn to walk before you run.
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Mac's diagram refers to 510 pinless/fauxbrid/"fake-hybrid" mods. It doesn't apply to "standard" mechanical devices with a 510 pin, nor true "hybrid" mods like this one:
Teaching safe operation and usage I agree with... basing the need for knowledge on fear of harm I disagree with.
Everything about vaping regardless the tech.. has the potential for danger..... still its less than smoking... I mean many light them things with fuel air bombs.
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I don't play that game. The poster cited a protected device. I responded as to what can happen. Real world. Real experience. Confirmation.
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Mac's diagram refers to 510 pinless/fauxbrid/"fake-hybrid" mods. It doesn't apply to "standard" mechanical devices with a 510 pin, nor true "hybrid" mods like this one:
True that. In context I was speaking to the use of typical factory replaceable coils/rba's with such mech's.
Thanks for the exhibit. I love true hybrids. Nice rig.
Good luck.
Sorry that I was absent today, had to fix a car this morning and it took all afternoon to deal with commycast tech support and the evening to run out to the CC store for a new modem. New Comcast stores are nice!
Probably spend all tomorrow morning configuring win7 with range extender w/ new router. I'm gonna replace that pc with a chromebook if they are half as easy to connect as Android.
Ty guys sooo much for all the feedback on this thread!
Probably spend all tomorrow morning configuring win7 with range extender w/ new router. I'm gonna replace that pc with a chromebook if they are half as easy to connect as Android.
Ty guys sooo much for all the feedback on this thread!
If you just need to surf the net or write a letter, Chromebooks are great. When I travel, its what I take even over a tablet.
Again, sorry, but I disagree. A short can cause an instant major issue with your battery.
I am surprised to see such comments if I am honest. A short should be avoided at all costs when using a mech. There is no “ok-ish short” here. A short is a short, and one could lead to a very bad day. There is a big additional risk by using pre-made coil heads - so just don’t use them. No offence to members, but if you can’t build an rda, you probably have no place using a mech anyway (just my opinion of course).
Imo being able to twist wire into a coil and instal it in an atomizer. .. does not qualify you to use a mech.....
Knowing how to NOT install a shorted or soon to be shorted atty on your mod might though.
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To my understanding a short is simply any deviation of a circuit connection which bypasses the load. If the condition truly meets this criteria there is a catastrophic reduction of resistance to zero or near it; or as sometimes referred to, a dead short.
However, any short circuit may minimally or drastically lower resistance. Some may induce arcing raising resistance apparently increasing the load. Many of the poorly built or configured coils we see are of this latter variety. I tend to regard any deviation from expected resistance with caution because this is essentially an unmanaged unpredictable state. If applying power to cure or assume such as normal operation, a much lower res could ensue which might exceed battery rating. i.e. you're expecting .5Ω operation and suddenly find .25Ω (8 vs. 16 Amps).
I believe we're needing a better descriptor for this latter state. An astute poster on the Protank Micro thread suggested to me the somewhat all-encompassing term thermal short to describe this kind of circuit deviation or obstruction (which raises res or its variability).
As some of you know, I advocate that every vaper should attain some basic electrical knowledge and rebuilding skills. I feel that should be our culture, to promote that. It protects us in our use of our gear and ultimately from most external criticisms.
In my book there's no acceptable "Vaping for Dummies". We just need to get it right.
Good luck.
However, any short circuit may minimally or drastically lower resistance. Some may induce arcing raising resistance apparently increasing the load. Many of the poorly built or configured coils we see are of this latter variety. I tend to regard any deviation from expected resistance with caution because this is essentially an unmanaged unpredictable state. If applying power to cure or assume such as normal operation, a much lower res could ensue which might exceed battery rating. i.e. you're expecting .5Ω operation and suddenly find .25Ω (8 vs. 16 Amps).
I believe we're needing a better descriptor for this latter state. An astute poster on the Protank Micro thread suggested to me the somewhat all-encompassing term thermal short to describe this kind of circuit deviation or obstruction (which raises res or its variability).
As some of you know, I advocate that every vaper should attain some basic electrical knowledge and rebuilding skills. I feel that should be our culture, to promote that. It protects us in our use of our gear and ultimately from most external criticisms.
In my book there's no acceptable "Vaping for Dummies". We just need to get it right.
Good luck.
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Here's one for you that think I don't care about safety...
IMO.... if you cannot BUILD a safe coil at .5ohm.. any atty under 1 ohm is unsafe for you.... that would include factory heads.
See I don't trust technology enough to depend on my Regulated mods to keep me safe.... if I wouldn't feel safe putting a build on a mech it doesn't go on regulated mods either.
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IMO.... if you cannot BUILD a safe coil at .5ohm.. any atty under 1 ohm is unsafe for you.... that would include factory heads.
See I don't trust technology enough to depend on my Regulated mods to keep me safe.... if I wouldn't feel safe putting a build on a mech it doesn't go on regulated mods either.
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