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kristin

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Julie, that one is worded carefully to be directed at SPECIFIC smokers - the ones who tell e-cig users that they look "stupid with that thing" and should just "smoke the real thing." Many of us have run into that ironic attitude. The message isn't directed at non-smokers to say "like me more because smokers are more stupid." The message is directed at cynical smokers who make fun of vapers, because they are ironically the "pot calling the kettle black." Basically, if you aren't a smoker making fun of vapers (or thinking of it) then it's not directed at you. It also reinforces that vapor is not smoke.

You know how I feel about not scapegoating smokers. This isn't meant to do that in any way. But it is something that a lot of us can relate to as vapers. I tried to make these not just advocacy related, but also something vapers may just wear around other vapers or for fun. Not everyone want something serious and activist related. Since we would sell these for fundraising, the more that appeal to a wider vaping audience the better.

If #6 isn't worded clearly enough to convey the message, it can be tweeked. But I think a lot of vapers can relate and don't feel to bad since it's a rebuttal, not an attack.
 
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Kristin,

My wish is that we try to change the terminology away from terms like "e-cig" or any wording with cigarette in it, with the hope of changing the perception that vaping is the same as smoking. I think more people who don't smoke are becoming aware of vaping. If those of us who vape refer to it as vaping and/or using a "personal vaporizer" - PV or any other better wording, then eventually the public at large will start to refer to it that way and their perception will be that vaping is NOT smoking. Just my 2 cents worth.

Also, how about using the phrase: "I Vape to Live and Live to Vape"
 

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Julie, that one is worded carefully to be directed at SPECIFIC smokers - the ones who tell e-cig users that they look "stupid with that thing" and should just "smoke the real thing." Many of us have run into that ironic attitude. The message isn't directed at non-smokers to say "like me more because smokers are more stupid." The message is directed at cynical smokers who make fun of vapers, because they are ironically the "pot calling the kettle black." Basically, if you aren't a smoker making fun of vapers (or thinking of it) then it's not directed at you. It also reinforces that vapor is not smoke.

You know how I feel about not scapegoating smokers. This isn't meant to do that in any way. But it is something that a lot of us can relate to as vapers. I tried to make these not just advocacy related, but also something vapers may just wear around other vapers or for fun. Not everyone want something serious and activist related. Since we would sell these for fundraising, the more that appeal to a wider vaping audience the better.

If #6 isn't worded clearly enough to convey the message, it can be tweeked. But I think a lot of vapers can relate and don't feel to bad since it's a rebuttal, not an attack.

That might be the intent, but I just don't think it comes across that way. I think many smokers, not surprisingly, are rather defensive. I'd rather not go this particular route, making smokers the .... of a joke. (pun intended. :laugh:)
 

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Kristin,

My wish is that we try to change the terminology away from terms like "e-cig" or any wording with cigarette in it, with the hope of changing the perception that vaping is the same as smoking. I think more people who don't smoke are becoming aware of vaping. If those of us who vape refer to it as vaping and/or using a "personal vaporizer" - PV or any other better wording, then eventually the public at large will start to refer to it that way and their perception will be that vaping is NOT smoking. Just my 2 cents worth.

Also, how about using the phrase: "I Vape to Live and Live to Vape"

I have run across a bunch of people that when they hear me say "Vape" they think I am talking about Drugs. That we really don't want. Any thoughts on that anyone?
 
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OK, how about "You may think it looks stupid, but it's better than an oxygen tank!" or something like that?

That might be the intent, but I just don't think it comes across that way. I think many smokers, not surprisingly, are rather defensive. I'd rather not go this particular route, making smokers the .... of a joke. (pun intended. :laugh:)
 

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I have run across a bunch of people that when they hear me say "Vape" they think I am talking about Drugs. That we really don't want. Any thoughts on that anyone?

I've never had that happen to me or had anyone else on here mention that. When I explain that it is a personal vaporizer that produces water vaper, I believe they get the idea of what "vape" means.
 

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It depends what part of the country you are in. The term "personal vaporizer was used by pot vaporizer users before ecigs hit the market. I used to feel we should not call them ecigs, but by this point, they have entered US vocabulary as ecigs and there isn't much we can do about it anymore. But I know some people don't like it, so I made sure there were slogans that said vapor rather than ecig. #2 is one of my favorites, but I think people don't get the double meaning. "no harm, no foul" can mean both "if no one is hurt then no offense has been committed" and also can mean vapor causes no harm and also doesn't smell offensive. I thought it was pretty clever, but I guess most people don't agree, lol.

I've never had that happen to me or had anyone else on here mention that. When I explain that it is a personal vaporizer that produces water vaper, I believe they get the idea of what "vape" means.
 

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# 1 " Sorry, I don't have a light, It's electric"
Remove E-cig envy from # 7 and 8..

Then they become more humorous and are more likely to get a smile than a look of disgust.

# 6 It may look strange to you, but I am saving the enviroment. (get's 2 groups with one statement)

I'll give up my flavors if you give up yours. (Can go for coffee, alcohol, etc.)

I agree that something humorous and thought provoking is better than an in your face approach.. I really like the ideas

I do like the coffee mugs :)
 

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yeah is pretty vague but would make ppl wonder
 
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