Mesh wick questions

[jen180081]

I've ventured into mesh wicks... which I really like the idea of. However I'm a little confused about a few things. First I can't get above 1.3 ohms (normally wouldn't be a big deal, but everyone on here has me scared I'm gonna blow my face off if I'm under 2). I've gone up to 6 wraps and that's the highest I can get, with that being said.... the coils are supposed to be farther apart than cotton or silica right?
My other thing is hot spots, I've googled it every way I can think of, and can't figure out exactly what people are talking about. My coil glows red, it may take more than a millisecond for the whole thing to get there, but eventually it does. I know with some coils it's instant, all coils red at once. Is that what's happening if they don't all turn red at the same time? hotspots?
Thanks!!

 

[gregamite]

mesh wicks are had to get the hang of. but once you do its a pleasant vape. 1.3 ohms is a good resistance. you will be ok, its sub ohms that people get uptight about. with good reason. if you can get it to fire up and all coils are glowing evenly try dripping some juice on the coils and then firing it. do this a few times and be sure that your coils are glowing evenly then fill up the tank. tilt your device to get the juice to the coils and have a vape. let us know if you have anymore questions or if you run into trouble.

 

[Thrasher]

a pic or 2 and more info helps, what kind of wire, what device are you using etc.
dont worry so much over the resistance some mods need lower then others and usually 1 ohm or higher is plenty fine.

but we also need to know the mod your using as well

a hotspot is usually one wrap glowing by itself or shorting out causing a burning smell.

heres a perfectly wrapped and glowing 4/5 coil

 

[Cr0tchF4i]

The coil should glow from the middle outward. If the positive or negative lead are glowing first that is a hot leg. I suggest trying a micro coil. They can be a bit intimidating at first but it is so easy to build one and get a consistent vape!

Use a machine screw or drill bit and wrap the coil as close and tight as you can. Install it in a device (without a wick) and burst it until it is red hot- LET OFF THE BUTTOn and use pliers to gently squeeze it together. Once it glows properly insert your wick and pulse it about 30 times to oxidize the wick and make sure there are no shorts or hot spots. BOOM awesome and consistent vape.

 

[jen180081]

I'm using one of the cheapo rainbow elites. It's my first mechanical mod. I'm using the wire that came with it... 26 gauge kanthal, and 500 mesh. I've done micro coils before and tried it, but I only have a 1/16 bit and that seemed pretty small. I couldn't get the wick all the way through... So I did the first wrap with the wick in the hole, then took it out and finished it. Then attached it to positive and negative (which sucked because of the stupid spring washer set up) it didn't glow from the middle out, it started at the positive and then went down.
Ok, so now it's in the tank full of juice... Should I drain the juice and dry burn it and then move things around?

 

[jen180081]

Here's what I got... If the pic works

 

[jen180081]

oh, i'll try to make that better

 

[Thrasher]

it kinda looks like the wick is thicker up top and the lead is a little loose.

uneven glow like that is usually uneven tension in the coil for a situation like that heres what i would do. i would pull the wick and wrap the whole coil on the wick then put everything back and tighten up the leads..

if you have the coils spaced then you need to fire the mod and adjust the coils with a toothpick or something until you can work out the hotter spots and get them glowing even.

as for the wire thats pretty low and I wouldnt really expect anything higher then what your getting for resistance, too many wraps and you kill the response time of the coil as something that low of a gauge is not really good for regular resistance ranges unless doing a real micro style coil.. meaning it will take forever to glow.

edit: after looking at the pic I would say try not to twist the wick so tight and make it fit the wickhole better, then follow the steps about wrapping the coil directly on the wick

do you have more mesh for it?

 

[jen180081]

Let's see how this one looks

 

[jen180081]

omg why is is posting a pic so hard for me lol
What do you mean pretty low? the wire needs to be thicker?

 

[jen180081]

nevermind, i see what you mean

 

[Thrasher]

as gauge goes down the wire resistance drops and the wire gets thicker. making it harder to get a higher resistance. for my mechanicals i dont usually go under 28g or over 1 ohm

 

[Thrasher]

you have to make the wick a little more uniform and fit the wickhole well then make sure the wraps are all even with the same tension.

look at it this way with mesh wicks the coil needs to fit the wick and the wick needs to fit the mod first . not the other way around like other types of attys where you can just build a coil and stuff in a wick

 

[jen180081]

ok, I shall try again.

 

[tnt56]

Great job Thrasher. Tip my hat to you Sir.

 

[Thrasher]

ok, so smaller gauge. I can do that, I've done plenty of silica wicks, so I got that... I just assumed because the wick was heavier duty, it needed the thicker wire.

its more about efficiency of heat from the wire you need to find the right amount of wick for the hole.
once thats done the most important part is making sure the coil is as uniform and efficient as possible. I even use 32g on my vv mods for the same wicks and attys. once you find the correct balance for the mod and power being used it will be a smoke bomb.


mesh is tricky the first few times but after you get it once or twice it works great and becomes much easier with experience.

Great job Thrasher. Tip my hat to you Sir.

any chance you gys wanna start a store in fla? i need a new job lol

 

[jen180081]

I GOT IT!!!! At least the glowing from the inside out part. Now time to see what some juice tastes like. Thank you guys, especially Thrasher for being patient and helping

 

[tnt56]

its more about efficiency of heat from the wire you need to find the right amount of wick for the hole.
once thats done the most important part is making sure the coil is as uniform and efficient as possible. I even use 32g on my vv mods for the same wicks and attys. once you find the correct balance for the mod and power being used it will be a smoke bomb.

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mesh is tricky the first few times but after you get it once or twice it works great and becomes much easier with experience.


any chance you gys wanna start a store in fla? i need a new job lol

Not fl. I want AZ. Health reasons. But wish it would happen.