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Coca-Cola has long been a medium for administering alcohol in teens, and yet it hasn't been banned.
Technically, the actual Tweeking will come from the Michigan Department of Health. Who is Not supposed to be a Political entity.
But for All Intent and Purpose, they have All become Political Entities in one form or Another.
The Kentucky Department of Public Health has been politicized for several years. In larger cities the D'sPH have become rather radical in their quest to save us from our selves.
Bingo! Believing “they” have your best interest in mind is foolish. Here’s the thing, your vote doesn’t mean anything either. All that matters in life is money and control through money.... not logic, not reason, definitely not truth and in that circle, not love. Money, and keeping people running. You can’t control people if they have time to sit around and think or formulate plans past “gotta make rent”.
It’s all a lie, based on some Leave it to Beaver fantasy these idiots posing with their wonderful perfect 8 children sell. Carding doesn’t work, never has never will... everyone has an older brother or a friend with an older brother that will be happy to buy whatever for you. I stood outside of stores and waited for “the right guy” to get me half gallons of vodka. I worked with older guys who bought me beer and liquor. You can not stop it, you might make it difficult on any random weekend, but you won’t stop it, ever. All of these things are just excuses that you can’t counter because if you did you would be “the bad guy”.
Vaping is killing a flow of currency to these people that can not be ignored. So, you have what we see. Not health, not the babies, nothing... it’s money. Realizing this makes the whole debate very simple. This logic applies to all matters of our current system. Idolatry at it’s finest ladies and gentlemen, get in line to receive your mark.
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Also, as an example of your options, medical herb is not around because someone “saw the light” it’s because people risked freedom, financial ruin, losing job opportunites, and their lives to keep it here. It was worth it.
It’s here because those powers that be had no choice. How bad do you want to vape?
It’s here because those powers that be had no choice. How bad do you want to vape?
Lol! Geese.. why didnt they ban menthol cigarettes decades ago if it was the whole reason why kids started smoking????
6 month ban that she can renew for another 6 months!
Hopefully she's out the next election!
Personally I could care less for me as I've been vaping flavorless for 5+ years now. Make my own.
But ya know it's all about killing off vaping and it starts with kids. Kill the growth.
Sweet flavors never stopped young kids from starting to smoke in the first place.
What are people that vape menthol going to do now? Go back to cigarettes??
Guess that's the point!
Theirs way more important issues in mi then vaping!!
Damn government trying to control the people per usual.
6 month ban that she can renew for another 6 months!
Hopefully she's out the next election!
Personally I could care less for me as I've been vaping flavorless for 5+ years now. Make my own.
But ya know it's all about killing off vaping and it starts with kids. Kill the growth.
Sweet flavors never stopped young kids from starting to smoke in the first place.
What are people that vape menthol going to do now? Go back to cigarettes??
Guess that's the point!
Theirs way more important issues in mi then vaping!!
Damn government trying to control the people per usual.
Not sure I understand the whole 6 month timeline with a possible renewal for 6 months after. What's that all about? Will things be different in 6 months as far as underage vaping, other than all the vape shops that go out of business leaving sales to 7 Eleven and the gas stations? Isn't that sorta the opposite of what you want, as vape shops have a very good record on age verification and compliance, while the convenience stores have a terrible one?
I mean, we all get that these bans are irrational, but this one seems more irrational than others.
I mean, we all get that these bans are irrational, but this one seems more irrational than others.
I think it's because she can't get the state legislature to cooperate with her. I think the 6 month thing is her equivalent of an executive order.
Lol! Geese.. why didnt they ban menthol cigarettes decades ago if it was the whole reason why kids started smoking????
If they banned that how would they ever pay for private jets to fly from Coast to Coast. I can think of many things they are, which I won't go into but stupid isn't one of them.
Because I suspect the data and money are coming from obfusticated BT sources. Even the ANTZ can wind up with BT money and data if they’re not looking hard enough.
Hard to believe the legislature opposed this because they thought it was a bad idea, it was an idea being pushed by a Governor from the other party.
Given their history Indiana probably won't be far behind Michigan. I suppose I'll write some more letters to them when the time comes. But they are a one party State so they don't care, their reelection is a foregone conclusion. California is a one party State, from the other party, and they are just as bad as Indiana when it comes to social engineering. Michigan is a divided government State and that apparently wasn't any better.
Based on history I think there's a chance that some States won't go along with this tide for whatever reason. But will there be enough to sustain a national vape industry? Small vendors will be hard pressed to keep up with constantly changing State regulations and who they are allowed to mail what to this week.
Given their history Indiana probably won't be far behind Michigan. I suppose I'll write some more letters to them when the time comes. But they are a one party State so they don't care, their reelection is a foregone conclusion. California is a one party State, from the other party, and they are just as bad as Indiana when it comes to social engineering. Michigan is a divided government State and that apparently wasn't any better.
Based on history I think there's a chance that some States won't go along with this tide for whatever reason. But will there be enough to sustain a national vape industry? Small vendors will be hard pressed to keep up with constantly changing State regulations and who they are allowed to mail what to this week.
When it's time for the feds to come in and clean up there might not be much left for them to do.
I would say that the Governor wants Immediate Action.
But in the Absence of a State Law, that She leaves herself open to a Stronger Legal Challenge by using Executive Powers.
So she signs her name to an Action. But then gets the Legislative Body to back her down the road.
BTW - Wouldn't a piece of Legislation Exempt FDA Approved e-Cigarettes to give the Illusion of Fairness to the average Citizen?
Incrementalism, like the frog in the pan of water. Well, the ban is just for six months, see how it goes, it might work. At least she's doing something. Well, give it six more months, the first time around may not have been long enough. Gosh, it's been eighteen months - we haven't seen any more stories about dying kids, this ban must work. Heck, make it permanent.
The goal is not to keep kids in gas stations safe; the goal is a ban on vaping. They will get there and the majority will happily go along.
I fear the end is near for vaping
Michigan bans flavored e-cigarettes to curb youth vaping epidemic
In a joint statement, the American Heart Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Cancer Society, American Lung Association, the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids and the Truth Initiative called Whitmer's action "necessary and appropriate."
"In the absence of strong federal regulation, parents have been blindsided by the e-cigarette epidemic," the groups wrote. "The time for waiting is over. The FDA must immediately remove all flavored e-cigarettes from the market nationwide, prohibit all marketing to children and prohibit online sales of e-cigarettes."
Harbinger of things to come. May have to double my frozen DIY stockpile of flavors.
In a joint statement, the American Heart Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Cancer Society, American Lung Association, the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids and the Truth Initiative called Whitmer's action "necessary and appropriate."
"In the absence of strong federal regulation, parents have been blindsided by the e-cigarette epidemic," the groups wrote. "The time for waiting is over. The FDA must immediately remove all flavored e-cigarettes from the market nationwide, prohibit all marketing to children and prohibit online sales of e-cigarettes."
Harbinger of things to come. May have to double my frozen DIY stockpile of flavors.
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