• Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers

    Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?

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Not sure if that was sarcastic, making fun of me, or just throwing it in there, but I pressed like because you made me laugh :D

Lol, nope not aimed at anything, it was just a random thought that popped in my head that made me giggle so I wanted to post it somewhere.. this place as good as any.
 

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So one thing this thread really taught me is ID does matter. It make as much difference as coil resistance.

I was thinking it might be cool, and super helpful to mirco newbs, to chart at what point does a coil underwick (come one, we have all taken those dry hits and gone "Nope, never again, this build is just too low for this ID"). Maybe it's too subjective but I do notice a definite point where the coil is flood city or Ima looking at it going "dude I better 2 second hit that thing".

Maybe a nod and a wink to that old but infamous "Don't pop your coil chart", but with Resistance on one side and Coil ID on the other.

Here's and example; I have a couple go to builds and right now and this quad is probably my favorite. So much so that I have been making it work in an Origen. I've posted the build before and I regret tearing it out every time; but they don't last forever, maybe three or four weeks at 10ml a day.

I been varying the ID, tried everything from 1.4mm on up.

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8 wrap, 27 awg K






coils tidied up


Firing (No hot legs, sweet)


Not firing

0.25 ohms, total resistance.


It's not a micro coil though, it's a mini. 1.7mm ID.

Micros are just too hot for this build, they just vape too hard. Does 0.1mm and some change (0.1125mm) make a difference, absolutely. It's not about how many watts you push, it about balancing heat, coil saturation, airflow and the amount of wire under the hood.

I know what some of you are thinking, "just drop wire size or add wraps"; nope, ramp up time on this baby has been the best out of all, close to one second, and man I can take those 5 - 6 second pulls no problem. Thing is pumpen out serious density and flavor.
 
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aalwani, I did a Mini-Coil 32g K-1 for my T3 that came in @3.8ohms, IIRC it was ~10-12 wraps on a 5/64 Bit. I had to pump a Minimum 4 Volts for any decent Vapage to happen... I quite enjoyed upping it to 5.5Volts and an enjoyable afternoon of some A+ Vurley.

So you enjoyed the vape between 4.3 watts and 8 watts. Which is what I am trying to get in order to come up with the lowest wattage enjoyable vape :)

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So one thing this thread really taught me is ID does matter. It make as much difference as coil resistance.

I was thinking it might be cool, and super helpful to mirco newbs, to chart at what point does a coil underwick (come one, we have all taken those dry hits and gone "Nope, never again, this build is just too low for this ID"). Maybe it's too subjective but I do notice a definite point where the coil is flood city or Ima looking at it going "dude I better 2 second hit that thing".

Maybe a nod and a wink to that old but infamous "Don't pop your coil chart", but with Resistance on one side and Coil ID on the other.

Here's and example; I have a couple go to builds and right now and this quad is probably my favorite. So much so that I have been making it work in an Origen. I've posted the build before and I regret tearing it out every time; but they don't last forever, maybe three or four weeks at 10ml a day.

I been varying the ID, tried everything from 1.4mm on up.

Pics:


8 wrap, 27 awg K






Coils tidied up


Firing (No hot legs, sweet)


Not firing

0.25 ohms, total resistance.


It's not a micro coil though, it's a mini. 1.7mm ID.

Micros are just too hot for this build, they just vape too hard. Does 0.1mm and some change (0.1125mm) make a difference, absolutely. It's not about how many watts you push, it about balancing heat, coil saturation, airflow and the amount of wire under the hood.

I know what some of you are thinking, "just drop wire size or add wraps"; nope, ramp up time on this baby has been the best out of all, close to one second, and man I can take those 5 - 6 second pulls no problem. Thing is pumpen out serious density and flavor.



that's a cool build, I haven't tried anything over 1/16" in a long time

this is a simple 2x 10 wrap, .055"id 26 gauge for ~.4 ohms to christen my new dibi :)

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Pin vice/vise best invention for microcoilers. Just throw the wire in the chuck, put in your drill bit, jig or even the head of your precision screwdriver (Which is now useless) and coil away. Here is 32 gauge which is a pain to work with without annealing. Perfect wraps.



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Pin vice/vise best invention for microcoilers. Just throw the wire in the chuck, put in your drill bit, jig or even the head of your precision screwdriver (Which is now useless) and coil away. Here is 32 gauge which is a pain to work with without annealing. Perfect wraps.



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Could you please post a video of how you do this?
 

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Could you please post a video of how you do this?

Unfortunately I don't have a camera. I will try to make it on my phone cam. It is the same way using a precision screwdriver but without the need to tape the wire down. Superx drifter has a nice video about that.

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32 gauge 1/16th drill bit 16 wraps. Turned out to be 5 ohms. Running on a provari at 6 volts which is 7.2 watts. Getting an excellent vape out of it. Low wattage experiments Continue. The only problem is the springiness of the 32 awg wire. Maybe I should anneal it first.



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Guys this thing is kicking .... And it's all on a cheaptek generic atomizer.

So I though let's kick it up to 9 watts. I put it on DNA20 device and pressed the button. 6.7 Volts as expected which I couldn't do on a provari. Seriously this thing is out of this world. The vapor production matched my 28 gauge vaping at 16 or 17 watts. And this is only at 9 watts. The flavor I am not sure yet I have to try it on my zenith to compare. But I tell you it is nice when theory works in practice. I hope someone else tries this and tell me how it feels. Amps drawn from battery are just 2.2 to 2.7 which is great for what I'm trying to accomplish (which might not be interesting for everyone else lol)

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So you enjoyed the vape between 4.3 watts and 8 watts. Which is what I am trying to get in order to come up with the lowest wattage enjoyable vape :)

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Nope, 4 volts/ 4.21 watts gave me fair vapor, really not enjoyable for me. When I hit 4.7v/ 5.81w, the Throat Hit and warmth arrived, and 5.5v/ 7.96w was where I stopped adjusting my voltage/ watts for that juice. Normally I vape between 7.6w to 12.4w depending on the juice, Fruits, Coffee's & Tea's are the lower end, Tobacco's & Hazelnut are higher end, I always adjust to taste but that seems to be the range I end up vaping my juices.

Add: My Hazelnut & Tobacco's are Net & Synthetics run on my DNA 20's or VV Box Mods, my Grands are for Fruit & Coffee juices, normally 1-1.4ohm Micro-Coils.
 
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The link below takes you to a mature thread that details the process and includes photos on how to build a micro coil - a very small bore (less than 1/16" diameter) coil with touching loops and all. These types of coils produce amazing vapor clouds, remarkable TH and superior flavor.

They are typically built with 10 + wraps and meter out in the 1.5 - 2+ ohm range. They yield similar warmth of a coil in 1 ohm range, but the vapor production is off the chain. Enjoy:

Micro Coil for the RBA on your REO
Micro Coil for the RBA on your REO

We need to spread the message of "smaller is better", nice thread brother :toast:, I'm addicted to surface area to the point that it's a madness trying to wrap the smallest coils I can. My smallest wrap is 28ga on 32ga (I pulled the 32ga tight with wood clamps), a challenge but worth it because it lit up like a light bulb and made my mr. miyagi juice taste like Scarlett Johansen spit a plum-guava smoothie in my mouth (in other words improved it), even managed to wick it (with a sewing needle), but like you said 10 wraps on a 1/16 drill bit is heaven, I'm looking for a 34ga diabetes needle now to PUSH THE LIMITS BRO! (not even sarcasm)
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Here's it next to a 1/32 drill bit, it glows from within and even looks sexy. If anyone is going to try anything like this make sure your cotton is drenched, this is one you have to let the wicking catch up on. :evil:

***Edit upon reading a few dozen pages I realized your trying to make micro-coils specifically, not nano-coils my bad. I uses nano's for probably 70% of my vapes anyway, sorry for the out-of-placeness :p.
 
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I've installed a micro inside an aspire et-s which is the same idea (that and you have some more room to work with as a plus), it'll work great as long as you let the wicking keep up. That was my only gripe with a micro in a cartotank, the wicking simply can't keep up with the fiery flavor of this coil, so don't chain vape and like others said turn it way down, you'll still get way better clouds, but it'll suck the juice before it can re-soak. Good luck Max!
 
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