Micro Coils to increase Vapor, flavor & TH

[e30ernest]

Redid my coil so that I can move it further out closer to the airhole. Works better now! I'll just experiment with coil height now to get flavor and throat hit just right. I'm thinking about angling the coil like I do on the RM2.

@SLIPPY_EEL, I had forgotten to reply to your question, it's 0.34mm Kanthal wire.

Thank you again everyone!

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

28gauge ..

No Problem, Go Get Your vape On!!

Redid my coil so that I can move it further out closer to the airhole. Works better now! I'll just experiment with coil height now to get flavor and throat hit just right. I'm thinking about angling the coil like I do on the RM2.

@SLIPPY_EEL, I had forgotten to reply to your question, it's 0.34mm Kanthal wire.

Thank you again everyone!

 

[f1vefour]

I believe you want to try Exactly the opposite.

As a rule of thumb, You want your coil as close to the air source as possible.

When you have a properly adhered contact coil vapor escapes from the ends not the center, on my Atomic builds if the coil is against the airhole it causes less vapor production and higher throat hit because of the heated air reaching the exhaust before the vapor (dry like harshness).

I change the airhole alignment to intake over the left side of the coil where the wick meets the coil and throat hit lessens and vapor production is greatly increased.

Now this isn't on a Reo but the size of an Atomic is similar to the Cyclone.

 

[super_X_drifter]

When you have a properly adhered contact coil vapor escapes from the ends not the center, on my Atomic builds if the coil is against the airhole it causes less vapor production and higher throat hit because of the heated air reaching the exhaust before the vapor (dry like harshness).

I change the airhole alignment to intake over the left side of the coil where the wick meets the coil and throat hit lessens and vapor production is greatly increased.

Now this isn't on a Reo but the size of an Atomic is similar to the Cyclone.

I definitely wouldn't advocate putting the coil so close to the air source that it obstructs it at all.

That said, I'm not thinking that aiming air at vapor is the mission here. I'm thinking aiming the air at the center of the coil mass is. I also note that my coil is only slightly longer than my 1/16" airhole.

When I try, as you suggested, (just now I did) to aim the air at either side of the coil it will direct air over wick. That always has and just did produce more TH and less vapor.

I'm talking about this very coil right here.

If you see that big hole beneath the coil on the right post? That's 1/16" just like my airhole. Not much room for the airhole between center and left or right side of the coil when the coil is that small unless it's out in wick territory and aiming air at wick is a no no unless you crave a somewhat anemic / choked vape.

For me the best results have always come from directing air at the center of the coil in horizontal and vertical planes. If I direct air off center horizontally = anemic / choked / wicky vape. If I direct it under the coil vertically TH increases the higher I raise the coil

All I run are .055" full contact micro coils

But if it works for you my brother, rock on

 

[f1vefour]

That is a small coil, it's why I pointed out I'm not using that particular RBA.

I experience the same as you when using the Smok RDA since the coil has to be tiny and the air hole is as well.

 

[sedge]

 

[steven445]

I definitely wouldn't advocate putting the coil so close to the air source that it obstructs it at all.

That said, I'm not thinking that aiming air at vapor is the mission here. I'm thinking aiming the air at the center of the coil mass is. I also note that my coil is only slightly longer than my 1/16" airhole.

When I try, as you suggested, (just now I did) to aim the air at either side of the coil it will direct air over wick. That always has and just did produce more TH and less vapor.

I'm talking about this very coil right here.

If you see that big hole beneath the coil on the right post? That's 1/16" just like my airhole. Not much room for the airhole between center and left or right side of the coil when the coil is that small unless it's out in wick territory and aiming air at wick is a no no unless you crave a somewhat anemic / choked vape.

For me the best results have always come from directing air at the center of the coil in horizontal and vertical planes. If I direct air off center horizontally = anemic / choked / wicky vape. If I direct it under the coil vertically TH increases the higher I raise the coil

All I run are .055" full contact micro coils

But if it works for you my brother, rock on

Hey Super X just wanted to see if you got my PM's?
I could really use some good micro coils at the moment lol.
My thumb nail ripped in half and the pain is too much to even attempt to wrap a coil at the moment.

 

[bosun]

32 gauge is a little thin for a micro coil. I suggest a bare minimum of 30 ga.

Having bought and used 27, 28,29 & 30, My favorite is 29.

I picked up a spool of 30 gauge a month or so ago...next coil I make will be that gauge. Might be a few more months before I "have" to make a coil (big grin)!!

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

nice job Sedge! how does she vape? i'm after a cyclop's to replace the stnd cap that I drilled two holes in


little question for you, while keeping that Cyclops logo facing forward like you have it can you have a single slot open up on either side or do you have to turn the cap 180* ??

 

[e30ernest]

Hmmm?

https://www.facebook.com/omegatigrewire

Wasn't the real father of the Tiger Wire from this forum?

 

[super_X_drifter]

Hey Super X just wanted to see if you got my PM's?
I could really use some good micro coils at the moment lol.
My thumb nail ripped in half and the pain is too much to even attempt to wrap a coil at the moment.

Steven, just realized I had pm's . I guess I stopped getting email notifications when I get a PM. I had a bunch of pm's I was unaware of.

I hope to get time next week to spin some up and throw em in the mail bro

 

[dwcraig1]

Just want to comment about last July when I measured the voltage (drop) at the screw for the spring of my Grand against the battery negative.
Back then with a single coil of about 0.7Ω it was about .3v, on my new sub Grand with even lower resistance (duals) it came out to .07v
That's 3+ watts

 

[Alexander Mundy]

Hmmm?

https://www.facebook.com/omegatigrewire

Wasn't the real father of the Tiger Wire from this forum?

I did it back in July of last year during my magic quest.
It was probably done before that by someone else.
Someone here brought that style to everyone's attention, but can't remember who it was.

 

[sedge]

nice job Sedge! how does she vape? i'm after a cyclop's to replace the stnd cap that I drilled two holes in


little question for you, while keeping that Cyclops logo facing forward like you have it can you have a single slot open up on either side or do you have to turn the cap 180* ??

This is seriously the best setup to date on a Reo. The 0.3 ohm dual coil with afc dialed in just right makes amazing flavor and vapor.

The air holes are not 180 deg. apart. They are more like at 290 & 70.

You can have a single slot open for single coil. It will be facing at about 270. I did that at first.

Over squonking definitely shoots juice out the holes. I did that.

These top caps are hard to find today. Where I got mine last week are now sold out except for the gold. I just ordered another Cyclone from Mountain Oak Vapors. So I pulled the trigger on the gold from Vapor Trading Co.

I'm really liking this better than the Chalice. I need to drill the hole on the Chalice a bit.

 

[Idaholandho]

I'm really liking this better than the Chalice. I need to drill the hole on the Chalice a bit.

 

[sedge]

Here's a pic that shows both holes are slightly angled toward the back

 

[sedge]

Surprised me too Idaho.

 

[MasterofNone]

Ugh I want an afc cap... One black one stainless, for my Dibis... Lol


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[sedge]

Vapor Trading Co has a clear afc but you have to call.

 

[Idaholandho]

Just ordered another Cyclone. MOV's last, says J. They have one left for their REO in stock.
I used they coupon code for May and total was 61.00 including shipping...WOOT!
I also love muh Cyclone. Chalice just left Colorado....got in a traffic Jam there. Thurs should of been D Day for me.