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[SLIPPY_EEL]

Rayon shrinks so much I'm surprised your not getting burnt hits with that build SLIPPY.

I started wicking light like your build but it just wasn't working for me, I ended up with about twice as much wick as your showing in the dry pic and it's heavenly.

Thank's f1vefour, i will bare that in mind next time, you are right i was getting dry hit's and to compensate i was dripping more often & getting the odd bit of seepage from the airhole's, what i did after that was roll the rayon iteo's way, rolling it and adding rayon strands to the wet wick untill it was a perfect fit, but that did'nt work either, it gave me a background taste from the rayon which was like an old soggy sock, very similar to how cotton can taste.

 

[Idaholandho]

Soggy sock....lol.

I feel like I need to give Rayon another go...yep.

 

[MasterofNone]

Lol


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[MacTechVpr]

Rayon shrinks so much I'm surprised your not getting burnt hits with that build SLIPPY.

I started wicking light like your build but it just wasn't working for me, I ended up with about twice as much wick as your showing in the dry pic and it's heavenly.

0.5 ohm | 1.5mm | twisted 32g parallel

It would appear a very nicely tensioned twisted par. f1ve. And knowing what mine do with that much wick @ Ø + res. you should be pulling fairly decent cloud cover with a high probability of precipitation. But I'm just getting a lot more of the stratospheric variety and the barometers a lot higher. Me2 doubling the wicks but...doubling the flavor drops for heaven.

(A good 10-count?)

Good luck.

 

[f1vefour]

It would appear a very nicely tensioned twisted par. f1ve. And knowing what mine do with that much wick @ Ø + res. you should be pulling fairly decent cloud cover with a high probability of precipitation. But I'm just getting a lot more of the stratospheric variety and the barometers a lot higher. Me2 doubling the wicks but...doubling the flavor drops for heaven.

(A good 10-count?)

Good luck.

It's definitely a fog machine but the flavor is awesome as well. I'm blowing clouds that look like pure VG with 80PG, one of if not the best performing build yet.

I didn't understand:

(A good 10-count?)

If you mean drops held that is correct.

 

[dwcraig1]

I work nights and just got up, still working on the first cup of many cups of coffee so maybe I should wait to post but here goes.
I have been testing rayon for about a week now, nothing scientific, just using it. So far I'm sold on it, it appears to me that it works just a little better than cotton but perhaps I do something "not as right" with cotton. I use what looks like more but is probably less, not sure.
I don't appear to be getting any noticeable shrinking, at least not noticeable with the vape. The main thing I like about it is ease of installation. I did put it in my Taifun and took it right back out and put the silica back in but have it in use in a kayfun with great results.
It was in a Cyclone on my Reo that won me over in the beginning. I feel it's in the same ballpark as cotton.

 

[MacTechVpr]

It's definitely a fog machine but the flavor is awesome as well. I'm blowing clouds that look like pure VG with 80PG, one of if not the best performing build yet.

I didn't understand:

(A good 10-count?)

Actually I was referring to the turn count (lazy ...., should have just said it).

If you mean drops held that is correct.

I'm not seeing the flavor result with my current fav non tobacco which is based on natural ingredients, high nic pigmentation, non commercial flavorings. And this is the rubber test for me where a wick is concerned, right up there with NET's.

But a quick and dirty tonite on my fav vehicle for the subject (tobacco) @ 26AWG 8/7, 3/32” 2.38mm i.d., t.m.c. = .858Ω…

I wrote it up for brook here...CelluCotton and JCTC (Red Oak)

LMK on the turn count. Might try n dup it. Tks.

Good luck.

 

[f1vefour]

LMK on the turn count. Might try n dup it. Tks.

Good luck.

It's 10/9 on 1.5mm, 0.5 ohms

*edit*

I forgot it was parallel when I counted.

It's actually 5/4

 

[MacTechVpr]

It's 10/9 on 1.5mm, 0.5 ohms

Thanks. I have no doubt you're getting clouds. The light airiness I'm experiencing with CC, to be clear, is something akin to the state you have with cotton as it approaches total dry-out. And you can see a lot more diffuse vapor production in that state. But that kind of texture throughout the vape. Not the sheer wetness you would normally experience with a tensioned twisted f1ve…and so surprising. And obviously as you've read my writings not the cool, dense, cloudy vape that I describe as associated with efficiency. Puzzling and actually challenging.

Good luck.

 

[Idaholandho]

Mac,My Good Man, can you lend an opinion comparing lifespan of cotton vs rayon?
And, thank you for your recent posts.

 

[Idaholandho]

One more question, I truly love my NETS often chasing the dragon. Currently I am hooked on a couple of Ahlusion's and I love their made to order and extraction process.
Was with MOV for a couple of years but, feel the mixer gets sloppy and the flavors aren't consistent. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

 

[f1vefour]

I'm getting nothing strange, here is the best image I could grab in this dark room of the performance.

 

[MacTechVpr]

Mac,My Good Man, can you lend an opinion comparing lifespan of cotton vs rayon?
And, thank you for your recent posts.

Interesting proposition. And just at using this stuff three days it would seem to be a bit more durable. But I've got to see it with the more complex tobacco's as I commented on tonite and particularly at least a couple of NET's.

My standard JC Tenn Cured base confection has been running about 2-3 days with KGD. An almost double improvement over ordinary organic balls or rolled. It's durability has outlasted it's flavor though as it seems to trap more. It's durable because of flavor consistency. In that context, KGD hasn't gotten foul although saturated enough that the vapor output is reduced. Flavor has outlasted function. Still an significant improvement over non-linear grades of cotton.

I'm concerned about CC because of the fiber's tendency to fibrillation over 200 deg. and consequent potential for increased particle entrapment. Will that inhibit flow? Will it mute flavor or foul it? I've used two very dense flavors so far. One with natural organics, heavy pigments. Now somewhat lighter but highly pigmented tobacco. JC fouls just about anything and what I use to test Nextel extensively for consumer studies I do gratis for vendors. I think two good ones for starters Idaho.

I'm kinda liking the wick despite my reservations. It's fast and good vapor of the kind that most people seem to like. Drier, warmer and some equate that to richness. Me, I favor a cooler, denser wetter vape. Then, I was a pipe smoker for many years and equate that with high end quality. With vaporization it's comparable physics are coil efficiency. But I can't fault folks for their taste preferences. We all got 'em.

We'll be sure and post more on this as it's an interesting topic and CC is very intriguing. It seems to behave like no other wicking material out there. Thing is to put it to good use. And that's what I do best in my research is determine the strong points.

Good luck Idaho and thanks for the likes man. Appreciated.

 

[f1vefour]

I concur the wetness of the vapor seems a bit less with rayon when compared to cotton, to me this is a good thing. I was a cigarette smoker and hated Winston, they had a moistness to the tobacco that I couldn't stand.

The vapor from rayon also is lighter, not less volume but what seems to be from smaller vapor particles.

 

[MacTechVpr]

I'm getting nothing strange, here is the best image I could grab in this dark room of the performance.

Pretty darn good for a .5Ω build.

 

[MacTechVpr]

I concur the wetness of the vapor seems a bit less with rayon when compared to cotton, to me this is a good thing. I was a cigarette smoker and hated Winston, they had a moistness to the tobacco that I couldn't stand.

The vapor from rayon also is lighter, not less volume but what seems to be from smaller vapor particles.

Thanks for the validation f1ve. Good to know I'm not off the cliff here in my perceptions given that this material does behave considerably differently to what we're accustomed to from a wick. Not dense, but vacates and vaporizes fast. Not totally linear and not an evidently great capillary function but flows exceedingly well. Not being extraordinary either in the preceding yet the fiber's surface tension which appears in great measure a part of its retention and absorptive ability definitely contributes positively towards both of these aspects. Then the airiness which accompanies that good vapor production is better than what might be expected for the power input. Less power expectantly to produce that diffusion (the smaller vapor particle size you mention).

Good luck f1ve and thanks your remarks.

 

[WheredUfindThis]

.9Ω 19 wrap 26ga dipped in Thug Juice

 

[treehead]

The magma is my absolute favorite dripper for flavor. Hands down. The stillare and quasar don't come close. I have a zenith v2 on the way but I'm not expecting too much. The ability to run crazier builds would be nice though

Oh man, a 26650 tobh can do any crazy build you want. I thought it would make the vape airy and less flavorful...NOPE! It's literally like supersizing your vape. Because you can have bigger airflow, more heat (lower ohms, or more power), and more chamber for turbulence. It's a cloud chasers dream! You can fit a 48 wrap macro coil in it if you wanted to for whatever reason .

I added a few extra airholes, and threw in some 22ga gplat elite, and it's enough to make this atty a little warm with a 0.1 coil. Huge clouds, insane dense flavor (just because your coils can be hotter without making the vape harsh), and waaay less dry hits because of the massive 20 drop deck.

(20 drop deck, no dry hits!)

(vapor is 2x as big too!)

 

[treehead]

Mac,My Good Man, can you lend an opinion comparing lifespan of cotton vs rayon?
And, thank you for your recent posts.

I've only been using it for 2 weeks now, but Rayon seems to last waaay longer than cotton for me. It stays white basically forever because it's so hard to dry hit. The stuff is AMAZING, and I think right now it's way underrated, I was skeptical at first but I'm really, really digging the stuff.

I'm a cloud chaser, not really a flavor junky, so I appreciate the fact that it wicks at least 3x faster than cotton, and it'll use up every last drop in the deck before you come close to a dry hit. I've seriously opened up the chamber to look at the coils, and the only juice left is where the coils are, the deck and ends of the wick are dry, because it moves the juice so efficiently.

I'm getting a different experience than most who've used Rayon, they usually claim on the flavor is better (which it is), but I get bigger vapor faster, and I can usually hit it much longer before it goes dry (longer pulls). All in all I've noticed I'm going through juice like crazy with Rayon, and that juice tastes better, it improves everything in my opinion.

Am I the only one getting better vapor amount/density? I get much bigger clouds, and faster too!

 

[f1vefour]

I'm getting a different experience than most who've used Rayon, they usually claim on the flavor is better (which it is), but I get bigger vapor faster, and I can usually hit it much longer before it goes dry (longer pulls). All in all I've noticed I'm going through juice like crazy with Rayon, and that juice tastes better, it improves everything in my opinion.

Am I the only one getting better vapor amount/density? I get much bigger clouds, and faster too!

My experience mirrors yours.

Bigger vapor... check
Better flavor... check
Longer pulls without drying out... check
Increased juice usage... check
Mouth dry as a desert (high PG)... check

I don't however get the same wet denseness I get with cotton, although I was vaping 50/50 predominantly while using cotton. I think it may be this high PG liquid.