• Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers

    Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?

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True, but can unflavored juice suffer from having less flavor?

Still, I say you gotta go duel and blow some monster unflavored clouds.
Against all rules of logic the unflavored actually has flavor lol. With a small chamber I get more sweetness and more something else that I cannot put my finger on. So yeah you do notice a difference.
 

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My new rda is almost here - what's it gonna be: a single or my first duals ?

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Decisions, decisions :)

At least try the duals, especially in that big odin :vapor:
 

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My new rda is almost here - what's it gonna be: a single or my first duals ?

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Decisions, decisions :)

Try the duals please Russ.

I have dabbled with dual coils on numerous occasions in all different forms and have not found a set-up that I enjoy as much as a good single or parallel coil.

I will be interested to see how you get on with them. :)
 

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The instant you pulse your coil, metallic oxides are instantly formed on your coils. In VapeLand, we know this as the effect, when it occurs on a properly tensioned microcoil. These metallic oxide layers, three distinct and chemically different layers on kanthal, and eight on titanium, are what allows us to vape with a contact microcoil, without a hard short.

By the way, as a long term cancer researcher, for major institutions, these issues fall under my purview professionally. As I stressed before, there are known risks, but a lot more research needs to be done, and everyone needs to do this research for themselves, so they know what it is they are vaping. Compared to smoking, I'm perfectly ok with it. All of this, and my observations, Aal, have to do with health concerns, and one cannot compare our coils, without also comparing oxidized coils. Anyone that thinks one is fine, the other bad, is badly misinformed. We are vaping metallic oxides my friend, and a quick look at our coils under magnification will easily demonstrate this fact to anyone interested. As I mentioned, whether the heat is sufficient enough to cause certain chemical reactions is not the point, as nano-particles, and larger particles do exist on these coils. A wee bit of research will go a long way in this regard.
See.. I appreciate the thought and experience brought forward in this and some other posts. What kills me (pun intended) is that I'm probably 100X more likely to die getting run over by a teenage girl nose down in a text message while driving, than I will in 200 years of inhaling possibly carcinogenic metal oxides with my vape.

Even funnier, the people worrying over this were probably sucking down a pack or two a day of nearly certain lung disease a short time ago without much thought about the risk.
 

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I already wrecked those two long coils. They didn't glow evenly. They netted 1 ohm. I'll try again tonight. Any tips y'all?
I take it you're trying duals and not getting the two to fire up at the same speed. For me it's usually that one has longer legs than the other. You can check for that but if all else fails maybe raise then lower them back down. Sometimes they just take some fiddlin' to get firing just right.

Best of luck!
 

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What gauge are you using and resistance are you shooting for?

29 ga. Shooting for and got 1 ohm with two 15 wrap .055" coils :)

I take it you're trying duals and not getting the two to fire up at the same speed. For me it's usually that one has longer legs than the other. You can check for that but if all else fails maybe raise then lower them back down. Sometimes they just take some fiddlin' to get firing just right.

Best of luck!

That is the exact issue I had :). Will build new coils and fiddle around with it tonight :)

Thanks y'all for the tips, suggestions and motivation :)
 

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for me the important part is making sure both coils are the exact same length, sometimes I can't even really count the number of wraps exactly until after I take a picture and zoom in but it's not that hard to put both coils side by side and make sure one isn't longer than the other, heavier wire is easier to spot a difference of one wrap than light gage wire and of course this depends on nice tight wraps too but I think you got that, then once there both mounted it's not uncommon for one to heat up red while the other doesn't at first, just heat, squeeze and then heat again, repeat on both coils and they should even out once they both get nicely compressed... if when your all done one heats slightly better than the other that's not bad enough to rip it out, there would have to be a pretty significant difference between the 2 to require fixing it. sometimes I may screw up and wind up with one whole wrap extra, that I would fix, but a slight difference from just a difference in leg length I wouldn't bother much to fix that, almost all duals will have one coil slightly quicker than the other on some level but it should be barely perceivable and will still vape fine...

I was thinking of throwing a set of duals in there but then thought hey, look who this is going to, the guru of micro's, he don't need me to build him no coils :laugh: duals just take a little more patience and getting both equal length is critical, you'll be rocking awesome duals by the end of the day I'm sure :)
 

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just another thought for you, once I go over 10-11 wraps I usually bump up to 1/16" instead of .055" for better wicking to the center of those very long coils, at .055" you run a higher chance of burning the center of the wick once you start getting close to 15 wraps or more, especially when chain vaping or taking really long toots, also for duals on a mech you may want to think about going up one gage with the wire, although 29 is starting to get pretty light in my book you might find 30 gage works the most comparable to what you're used to with 29 in a single... I usually run 28 ga duals and 26 ga singles although lately I've been also having good results with duals at 26 ga too so in the end what I'm saying may be meaningless too but trying 30 ga might help in some ways to keep you close to your target resistance, at least something to keep in mind
 

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Even funnier, the people worrying over this were probably sucking down a pack or two a day of nearly certain lung disease a short time ago without much thought about the risk.

I don't think anyone who smokes ignores the obvious health risks. I believe the contrary, I believe the majority of us vape not to save money but to save ourselves.
 

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Well I got it :). Standards though :). Yep 14ga ID. The .055" ID was too long.

Thanks to y'all for the tips. I wrapped the coils reverse cause the high legs need to be on the other side next time.

It is the most cig like vape I've ever had. I've got the air opened 1/2 way and I really like it.

It is definitely a much more labor and patience intensive build but no prob when I've got this bad boy sitting on the table to vape :)

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.92 ohms net. KGD. Vulcan awesome.

Thanks turbo bro. The work you graciously did is first rate. Damn impressed with the atty and the LPing of my grands. What an awesome thing to do for a brother. Thank you.

Now I will vape myself sillier than I already am :)
 

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Wow Rstud, I am in complete awe as usual. Thanks for the photos. The work Turbo, is stunning.

In a conversation about the Odin yesterday, please keep us posted on flavor and performance. Two other close friends say it is the best $60 they have spent in quite some time. I am glad to see them stick it to the 130.00 RDA's and Loki be vocal about it.
 
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Well I got it :). Standards though :). Yep 14ga ID. The .055" ID was too long.

Thanks to y'all for the tips. I wrapped the coils reverse cause the high legs need to be on the other side next time.

It is the most cig like vape I've ever had. I've got the air opened 1/2 way and I really like it.

It is definitely a much more labor and patience intensive build but no prob when I've got this bad boy sitting on the table to vape :)

W2g4FV7.jpg


.92 ohms net. KGD. Vulcan awesome.

Thanks turbo bro. The work you graciously did is first rate. Damn impressed with the atty and the LPing of my grands. What an awesome thing to do for a brother. Thank you.

Now I will vape myself sillier than I already am :)

You beat me to the punch. Was gonna say knock it down an Ω or so. Reduce the wind count, up the Ø. Symmetry is everything for that languorous warm dense vape. Mama wants more wick. And watch those bow-legged ladies.

I'd rather go twisted. It's :cool:.

Good luck.
 

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just another thought for you, once I go over 10-11 wraps I usually bump up to 1/16" instead of .055" for better wicking to the center of those very long coils, at .055" you run a higher chance of burning the center of the wick once you start getting close to 15 wraps or more, especially when chain vaping or taking really long toots, also for duals on a mech you may want to think about going up one gage with the wire, although 29 is starting to get pretty light in my book you might find 30 gage works the most comparable to what you're used to with 29 in a single... I usually run 28 ga duals and 26 ga singles although lately I've been also having good results with duals at 26 ga too so in the end what I'm saying may be meaningless too but trying 30 ga might help in some ways to keep you close to your target resistance, at least something to keep in mind
Great info for all.

I don't think anyone who smokes ignores the obvious health risks. I believe the contrary, I believe the majority of us vape not to save money but to save ourselves.
This is very real for me. Every time I bought a pack of Camels I thought about it much. I even think about it when I vape. Hence the reason I moved to cotton from my precious ekowool. I give props to Yankeebobo, xtreme101 and many on this thread. As I have mentioned before, I quit smoking 3+ years ago to be healthier, just as you mention f1. I do not want a habit that has parallel risks, I want less risk. I am addicted to nic, like many here. Period.

I am still fired up about the claims that were made by Imeo on Ti wire. That has to stop in our world. Just because 4 vapers tried to set the shti on fire does not make it safe or more safe to vape.

A close friend on ECF, yankeebobo, reminded me that he made similar claims in the past about how cotton was no good and other statements about mediums and gear. This has to be stopped. I truly appreciate Jerms and his approach to the subject to Imeo. Very cool and calm stating facts and the obvious. Thank you J. I left under similar circumstances as others.
There are many good people on ECF, I can't get over that. Between this thread and the GP thread it is amazing.
Anyway, babbled my limit for a week or so. Thanks all.
 

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you're most welcome and yeah I agree with Mac, need a little more wick there

and yeah, the odin is awesome, a us made serialized authentic atty for $65 is sweet but the fact that it also vapes really great too makes it one killer atty, I hate to even say it but to me I think it vapes better than the origen which is almost double the price.
 

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you're most welcome and yeah I agree with Mac, need a little more wick there

and yeah, the odin is awesome, a us made serialized authentic atty for $65 is sweet but the fact that it also vapes really great too makes it one killer atty, I hate to even say it but to me I think it vapes better than the origen which is almost double the price.

You almost quoted a post from yesterday. Thank you for the thoughts. Looking to buy now based on another trusted user.
I am a Origen fan. First, Norbert is a fantastic guy who cares. I have the pleasure of talking with him on another forum and he serves the people like a champ. I love my Origen's.
RDA's have become the new fad for many. In fact, many new vapers have no idea what an RBA is lol. It was quite the opposite a year or two ago when mny had no idea what dripping was.
I find the RDA's of today very much close in nature to an RBA due to the large tanks. Maybe a new acronym is in order
RNDABWTFPTWTBOBW, Rebuildable Non Drip Built Atomizers With Tanks For People That Want The Best of Both Worlds :)
 
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