Mixing By Weight: Basics 101

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That's a really good idea! I'll try it! Thanks!


Thank you! The DIY is a lot to figure out and work on, but it is beginning to make sense now.
It really is not a lot to figure out. It is just new and daunting. Once you have done it a few times you will be amazed how easy it is. The calculators are a bit to figure out. I mix by measurement. Also remember a nickel is five grams and you can calibrate it that way. Always easy to find a nickel
 

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It really is not a lot to figure out. It is just new and daunting. Once you have done it a few times you will be amazed how easy it is. The calculators are a bit to figure out. I mix by measurement. Also remember a nickel is five grams and you can calibrate it that way. Always easy to find a nickel

It is unfamiliar and daunting! Last night, when I mixed my first juice, I had my husband in the kitchen with me for moral support. Today, however, I felt more confident and made four juices while he was at work. I can't wait to see how they turn out!

Good to know about the nickel. Thank you!
 

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It is unfamiliar and daunting! Last night, when I mixed my first juice, I had my husband in the kitchen with me for moral support. Today, however, I felt more confident and made four juices while he was at work. I can't wait to see how they turn out!

Good to know about the nickel. Thank you!
pretty soon you will be reading new juice descriptions in a whole new light as you get used to the flavorings. Sometimes I read something and go 'wait, I have vanilla and custard and whatever and I can just make that'
you will also be aghast at all the money you wasted buying juice. ;)
 

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pretty soon you will be reading new juice descriptions in a whole new light as you get used to the flavorings. Sometimes I read something and go 'wait, I have vanilla and custard and whatever and I can just make that'
you will also be aghast at all the money you wasted buying juice. ;)

Sounds great! I am sure if I had begun DIY sooner my vapocalypse stash would be even bigger! But, I am sure I'll continue to buy my favorite Ahlusion juice, Mango Colada, as long as I possibly can or until I am able to replicate it perfectly!
 
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Sounds great! I am sure if I had begun DIY sooner my vapocalypse stash would be even bigger! But, I am sure I'll continue to buy my favorite Ahlusion juice, Mango Colada, as long as I possibly can or until I am able to replicate it perfectly!
Probably already a clone recipe on elr or all the flavors site.
 

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That recipe looks great! I will definitely give it a shot as soon as I am feeling ready to tackle something more complicated than one shots. Thank you very much!

I know this is going to Sound Counter-Intuitive. But I think doing Multi-Flavored recipes is Easier than doing most Single Flavored mixes.

With a Single Flavor, you can Only adjust the Flavor Percentage. So you're either going to Like it. Or you Won't. But with a Multi-Flavored recipe, you can "Bend it" in all kinds of directions.

Want more Pina in your Mango Colada mix? No Problem. Add another Drop of Pineapple.
Not enough Punch to the Mix? Try More Rum Flavoring.
It seems a little Sharp on the tongue? Maybe more Cream would take the edge off it.
etc

All that, and sometimes you put a Recipe together of something you are Currently vaping, and it doesn't come out Exactly like what you have. It's Better. Or at least, similar in a way that it can be called a Variant.
 

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I know this is going to Sound Counter-Intuitive. But I think doing Multi-Flavored recipes is Easier than doing most Single Flavored mixes.

With a Single Flavor, you can Only adjust the Flavor Percentage. So you're either going to Like it. Or you Won't. But with a Multi-Flavored recipe, you can "Bend it" in all kinds of directions.

Want more Pina in your Mango Colada mix? No Problem. Add another Drop of Pineapple.
Not enough Punch to the Mix? Try More Rum Flavoring.
It seems a little Sharp on the tongue? Maybe more Cream would take the edge off it.
etc

All that, and sometimes you put a Recipe together of something you are Currently vaping, and it doesn't come out Exactly like what you have. It's Better. Or at least, similar in a way that it can be called a Variant.

That makes good sense! Thank you!
 
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I know this is going to Sound Counter-Intuitive. But I think doing Multi-Flavored recipes is Easier than doing most Single Flavored mixes.

With a Single Flavor, you can Only adjust the Flavor Percentage. So you're either going to Like it. Or you Won't. But with a Multi-Flavored recipe, you can "Bend it" in all kinds of directions.

Want more Pina in your Mango Colada mix? No Problem. Add another Drop of Pineapple.
Not enough Punch to the Mix? Try More Rum Flavoring.
It seems a little Sharp on the tongue? Maybe more Cream would take the edge off it.
etc

All that, and sometimes you put a Recipe together of something you are Currently vaping, and it doesn't come out Exactly like what you have. It's Better. Or at least, similar in a way that it can be called a Variant.
I stop around 5 flavors, after that it gets difficult for me to taste what each ingredient adds to the recipe. My tastebuds aren't very sophisticated though. I made a 10 flavor recipe once that tasted like mud, or close enough anyway that I had to dump it.. I usually stick to 3 or 4 now. I agree that as far as adjusting goes, having a few flavors to adjust gives me more options to tailor it to my personal taste. Having a good starting point via established recipes I like, or SFT's is important for me. Single flavors can be nice, but most of them are not very complex, and need to be mixed most of the time to satisfy. Even if that means just two, like a fruit/menthol.
 

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I stop around 5 flavors, after that it gets difficult for me to taste what each ingredient adds to the recipe. My tastebuds aren't very sophisticated though. I made a 10 flavor recipe once that tasted like mud, or close enough anyway that I had to dump it.. I usually stick to 3 or 4 now. I agree that as far as adjusting goes, having a few flavors to adjust gives me more options to tailor it to my personal taste. Having a good starting point via established recipes I like, or SFT's is important for me. Single flavors can be nice, but most of them are not very complex, and need to be mixed most of the time to satisfy. Even if that means just two, like a fruit/menthol.

I like that "Stop at around 5 Flavors".

I have a Few recipes that are More than 6 Flavors. But in Actuality, they are Really a 3 or 4 Flavor mix with the remaining Flavors (in 2 or 3 drops) acting more as accents. And if they are left out, it Doesn't make or Break the Mix.

I don't think a 6 or 7 Flavor mix of the same or similar amounts of Flavoring amount would work very well.
 

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I just made the Mango Colada you suggested and it is fantastic! I didn't have the INW Pineapple so I used more of the CAP Golden Pineapple. I didn't have the CAP Sweet Mango, but substituted the WF Island Mango. Everything else was per the recipe. This is one of my favorite juices I've ever had. I like it so much I'll be ordering big bottles of all the ingredients! Thank you for the recommendation!
 

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I just made the Mango Colada you suggested and it is fantastic! I didn't have the INW Pineapple so I used more of the CAP Golden Pineapple. I didn't have the CAP Sweet Mango, but substituted the WF Island Mango. Everything else was per the recipe. This is one of my favorite juices I've ever had. I like it so much I'll be ordering big bottles of all the ingredients! Thank you for the recommendation!
Good to hear it worked out for you!
 
With things being the way they are with the FDA, a whole lot more people are turning to DIY. I have been mixing for a few years now and started out using syringes and measured cylinders. Along the path I came across people who were mixing by weight. The idea appealed to me and I have been a proponent ever since. I find mixing by weight easier, more consistent and quicker than mixing by volume. Bellow I will show you how I mix by weight and I hope it helps some of my fellow vapors out during these bleak deeming times.

You will need:

Nicotine From places like Nude Nicotine, Vapors Tech, or Hartland vapes to name a few.
VG, PG From Places like Bulk Apothecary, or wizard labs to name a couple
Flavorings From places like Bull City for small amounts or directly from the manufacturer.

Here, on the right, you can see that the VG, PG and Nic. are in squeeze bottles (available on Amazon among other places). I have the bottles clearly marked and they are also different sizes to avoid any confusion.
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On the left are the two flavors I will be using for this recipe (Flavor West Yellow Cake and TFA Marshmallow) and on these bottles I have Yorker caps that I ordered from Flavor West. For flavor bottles that wont accept Yorker caps, I use disposable pipits to transfer the liquid (I purchased 500 on E-bay for very little money, I still have about 400 of them a couple of years later)

Since I don't have WiFi in my mixing room, I use a program called Liquix (available at the app store) on a pad as my calculator. This and most current calculators offer a weight bassed option built in. Here is a picture of the screen of my pad that shows what we will need to make today's recipe called "Twinki" 60ml, 30PG,70VG 2mg/l. As you can see, we will need 7.49grams of Yellow Cake (12%), 2.50grams (4%) of Marshmallow, 1.25grams of 100mg/l nic., 7.49grams of PG and 52.92grams of VG.
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We begin by placing the 60ml bottle on the scale and press "tare" to zero the scale. We will then drop 7.49g. of Yellow Cake in to the bottle:
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We then again Tare the scale and add the next ingredient 2.50g. of Marshmallow:
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Then 1.25g of Nic.:
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And 7.49g. of Pg:
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At this point, we can simply top the bottle off with VG to complete our mix as we are using a bottle that is the same size as the batch size or you can measure out the 52.92 grams of VG.
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And your done! That's it. Nothing to wash or rinse. It is about as simple and easy as you can get when mixing juice. I highly encourage you to give it a try. It is a rare case indeed where someone who has given this method an honest try and gone back to syringes. I wish I had used this method from the beginning and if your just starting out, I would highly recommend skipping the syringes all together.

Happy Mixing!
John
Hi John
Thank You for your post I really enjoyed it and learned several things from your post.
I was looking for the Liquix app but wasn’t able to find it,do you know if the app it for Apple or Android?
I bought a bottle of premix and I’m going to flavor a 120ml bottles. I bought 50/50 with 3mg of nicotine in it and I’m trying to figure out how much menthol flavoring to mix into a 120ml bottle.
So the app you use looks like exactly what I need to figure out how much menthol I would need to add.
Any help would be appreciated. Happy Mixing!
 

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Hi John
Thank You for your post I really enjoyed it and learned several things from your post.
I was looking for the Liquix app but wasn’t able to find it,do you know if the app it for Apple or Android?
I bought a bottle of premix and I’m going to flavor a 120ml bottles. I bought 50/50 with 3mg of nicotine in it and I’m trying to figure out how much menthol flavoring to mix into a 120ml bottle.
So the app you use looks like exactly what I need to figure out how much menthol I would need to add.
Any help would be appreciated. Happy Mixing!

John hasn't been active here for a while.

If you need a smartphone app, just search google or the app stores. I know nothing about them as I don't use smartphones. But I know there are juice mixing apps out there. They are all the same pretty much. But there are also web based calcs and PC calcs.

Here are 2 web based calcs...

DIY E-liquid | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

E-Liquid Calculator Ten Flavors with PG/VG Adjusting


Here are 2 windows PC calcs...

eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

Juice Calculator

I use ejuicemeup but in order to calculate by weight you need to enter the gram sets under Tools >> Gram Set.
I use the following which I got by weighing my own substances...

Nicotine - 1.04
PG - 1.05
VG - 1.3
Water/PGA - 0.97
Flavoring - 1.03
 
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I mixed single flavors and a 2 flavor blend I developed, for 7+ years.
It was simple with syringes and graduated cylinders but I tried hundreds of meh to yuk single flavors to find 12-15 that I really like.

Last night
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Syringe to drop my nic to weight but otherwise... My LB 501 will be here any minute.

Now I get it :)
 
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