I understand everything has it's own g/ml but if I were to for example calculate g/ml for say cap cherry cola will every bottle of cap cherry cola have the same g/ml or do I have to re calculate every time I order a new bottle of the same flavour?
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Once you find the Grams/ml of a Flavoring, you shouldn't have to do it again.
BTW - I think what you will find is that just about All Flavoring will have the same Grams/ml.
There are always going to be some variance, but it should be very close where it would not matter in DIY. Many flavor companies provide the values but if they don't you can always measure it yourself.
These lists should help with FA flavors.
These lists should help with FA flavors.
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I just count all flavors as 1 gram. It is generally under slightly but it is repeatable and that is what is important to me.
I kinda think this is a Good Way to do it anyway.
Start out Mixing by ml's and then when you kinda know what is going on, move to Mixing by Weight. If you Want to.
Mixing by Weight isn't terribly hard. But it is a Method that Most People are not that Familiar with. Whereas just about Everyone has some Experience with Mixing via Volumes.
Check out this thread and post #9. This should help. I use 1.03 gms/ml for all flavors as mine are 100% PG flavors. PG,VG and Nic are listed on thread.
Mixing by weight
Mixing by weight
Well i'm not worried about mixing by weight and the thought of less "dishes" to clean the better... I hate dishes but clearly i'm on the right path if I have people agreeing with my general plan. By the way I excel in maths and sciences numbers and chemistry were my best areas in school so I think i'm gonna be ok. Just some specific fundamentals needed
Mixing by weight is a lot faster and easier, for larger volumes. I have a 4digit scale and get pretty exact, but Below 30ml, I just use syringes.
I only have 1 Juice in my rotation of 10, that I mix at over 30ml, anyway. So the scale rarely gets, turned on. And all my beakers have dust on them. Besides, since I'm using the syringes anyway when using the scale, why not mix with them. I have syringes from 3/10ml/cc to 50ml/cc, so can do 2 digits without the scale. Most of the calculators are at 2 digits for weight and ml. and most of the materials hover around 1 gram to the 1 ml. Or so close I can't tell the difference between a 4 flavor juice mixed to .0001g vs the same mixed to .01ml.
NTYMI, but, going by drops will screw up your calculations.... Because not all droppers, make the same size drops.
I only have 1 Juice in my rotation of 10, that I mix at over 30ml, anyway. So the scale rarely gets, turned on. And all my beakers have dust on them. Besides, since I'm using the syringes anyway when using the scale, why not mix with them. I have syringes from 3/10ml/cc to 50ml/cc, so can do 2 digits without the scale. Most of the calculators are at 2 digits for weight and ml. and most of the materials hover around 1 gram to the 1 ml. Or so close I can't tell the difference between a 4 flavor juice mixed to .0001g vs the same mixed to .01ml.
NTYMI, but, going by drops will screw up your calculations.... Because not all droppers, make the same size drops.
It sounds like you are on the Right Track. And I agree... I Hate washing things also.
Just Remember to Detailed and Accurate Notes on EVERYTHING the Mix. And I'm sure you will do Great.
I find mixing by weight in the long run much easier to do than syringes. Great that there isn't as much to clean up and is way more accurate than guessing the markings on the syringe. The link supplied by PilotNY are the numbers I plugged into my juicemeup calc and have had great success with my mixing and consistent tasting mixes.
I did find the formula in another forum that details how to convert the 48 nic 50vg/50pg I have into weight. I did calculate it out to be 1.14 grams per ml. I find the cutting the 100 into 48nic nice for being forgiving incase a drop or 2 slip by and with 100mg that could drastically change the nic level in a smaller mix meaning time to recalculate, chances of mistakes are greater.
Just don't turn simple mixing into rocket science and you'll be a much happier vaper.
I did find the formula in another forum that details how to convert the 48 nic 50vg/50pg I have into weight. I did calculate it out to be 1.14 grams per ml. I find the cutting the 100 into 48nic nice for being forgiving incase a drop or 2 slip by and with 100mg that could drastically change the nic level in a smaller mix meaning time to recalculate, chances of mistakes are greater.
Just don't turn simple mixing into rocket science and you'll be a much happier vaper.
Ditch the syringes. I have most of my flavors in dropper bottles and for those few that I haven't bothered transfering, I use the ultra cheep disposable pipets. Cleaning out syringes is a drag.
To the OP : Here is a massive thread of old on weight based mixing. You can jump in around page 10 and not miss much. Mixing by Weight - Are You ??
This scale is the bees knees : 500g x 0.01g High Precision Digital Scale SF-400D2 Counting w/ USB Wall Adapter
There no real wrong way to mix and measure, we all do it the way we are most comfortable. Heck, I make many a bottle of juice eyeballing the ingredients. Little bit of this, a dash of that, toss in a bunch of the next. Some of those NON measured juices are great, just not so repeatable.
Have all my supplies in dropper bottles. Whats so hard about cleaning a syringe???? Little hot water shake and done. But then I get all the syringes I want for free. Don't like using, pipettes or eye droppers, these are not free. My scale does .0001g, very accurate, but I still do most of my mixing with the syringe.
Nope, no wrong way. Nothing hard about cleaning syringes, nothing hard about taking out the rubbish. I still don't like having to to either. One of them is avoidable 
. If syringes were free I would probably still spend the minuscule amount of money for pipets. I just find them easier and faster. You have to use two hands with a syringe and you just squeeze the bulb between two fingers for the pipet.
But, free is FREE so I get that and as you said, no wrong way.
As for the scale, that was at the OP as he stated earlier that he was looking for one. On my scale, one drop of pg is approximately .03g. Since a drop is as small as most of us can dispense, going any further than two decimals isn't necessary. Doesn't hurt anything but if your buying new then no need to spend the extra money for a more accurate scale.
. If syringes were free I would probably still spend the minuscule amount of money for pipets. I just find them easier and faster. You have to use two hands with a syringe and you just squeeze the bulb between two fingers for the pipet.But, free is FREE so I get that and as you said, no wrong way.
As for the scale, that was at the OP as he stated earlier that he was looking for one. On my scale, one drop of pg is approximately .03g. Since a drop is as small as most of us can dispense, going any further than two decimals isn't necessary. Doesn't hurt anything but if your buying new then no need to spend the extra money for a more accurate scale.
The Juice Calculator that is discussed here: New Calculator to try works very well for mixing by volume or weight.
You can see here that you can use whichever measuring method you prefer and it will show the amounts for the other methods. The base weights for pg and vg are built in, and you can enter in other specific weights if you want to. I just count the flavors as pg. I mix by weight, but if you start by volume and then change to weight all the measurements will be accurately converted. And lots of space for notes as you go.
You can see here that you can use whichever measuring method you prefer and it will show the amounts for the other methods. The base weights for pg and vg are built in, and you can enter in other specific weights if you want to. I just count the flavors as pg. I mix by weight, but if you start by volume and then change to weight all the measurements will be accurately converted. And lots of space for notes as you go.
I think a Notes Section is a Very Useful part of any e-Liquid Calculator.
Nice to be able to make a Chronological List to changes that were done when Developing a New Recipe. And to include things like Steeping times and Revisions.
Nice to be able to make a Chronological List to changes that were done when Developing a New Recipe. And to include things like Steeping times and Revisions.
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