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Nicotine liquid is only available at less than 7.5% (75mg) concentration in the UK, so it comes pre-diluted with either PG or VG. Flavouring is usually PG based. How much of each chemical you would use to get 50/50 is detmined by how strong your nic is, what it's diluted with, and how much flavour you use. There are plenty online calculators, and mixing isn't difficult once you get your head round it. Mucho cheaper too.
 

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So I got VG 24mg and pg 24mg so if I mix the two bottles up that will be 50 50 and is it better I was on about 50 roll up a day 50g golden Virginia been on the e cigg for about 3 weeks now but can not get the kick

Yes, if you mix those you will have 50/50 PG/VG at 24 mg nic.
 

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Depends on the context. If your talking % on a E-liq vendor site, it usually refers to the amount of PG vs VG in the e-liq. On A Flavor site, it is usually referring to the amount of flavor needed to get usual results - 5% mix - say 47.5ml of base (nic,pg,vg) + 2.5 ml of flavor. If your seeing it in e-liq threads and someone says Tiramisu and Whipped Cream 50/50 it means fill your tank 1/2 way with 1 pre-made e-liq and the rest with the other.
 

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Hitmanout2007 DO NOT MIX THE TWO!!!! The typical e-liquid is composed of 3-4 ingredients. You have the nicotine, the flavor and the base. When you see liquid for sale that says 70/30 or 50/50 what ever it may be, this is referring to what mixture that manufacturer uses for their base liquid. A 50/50 mix is letting you the consumer know that the base liquid for that particular brand is 50% Propylene Glycol and 50% Vegetable Glycerin. These to liquids are more commonly referred to as PG and VG. The manufacturer provides this information for a variety of reasons, the most common of which are the consumers personal preference, some individuals are allergic to certain things etc... You said that you have two different liquids one is PG and one is VG, but they are both 24mg of nicotine each. If you were to mix these two liquids you would indeed get a 50/50 blend but you would also be making a 48mg/ml nicotine solution, and this can be very dangerous. The American E-Liquid Manufacturing Standards Association (AEMSA) requires that all e-liquids sold within the United States not contain more than 36mg/ml for safety reasons.
You not being able to kick cigarettes after vaping for 3 weeks is not as uncommon as you may think. Vaping is a lot different from smoking in a variety of ways, and some people can find it very difficult to make the switch completely. The technique that I used when quitting smoking, was simply to not purchase any cigarettes. I did buy a pack once during my switch to vaping and to help stop myself from smoking every time I got the urge, I left my pack in my car. This discouraged me from smoking cigarettes because I had to go outside to my car every time I wanted to smoke, something that I simply didn't have time for. I hope that this help understand E-Liquid and gives you some ideas to help you quit smoking.
 

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Hitmanout2007 DO NOT MIX THE TWO!!!! The typical e-liquid is composed of 3-4 ingredients. You have the nicotine, the flavor and the base. When you see liquid for sale that says 70/30 or 50/50 what ever it may be, this is referring to what mixture that manufacturer uses for their base liquid. A 50/50 mix is letting you the consumer know that the base liquid for that particular brand is 50% Propylene Glycol and 50% Vegetable Glycerin. These to liquids are more commonly referred to as PG and VG. The manufacturer provides this information for a variety of reasons, the most common of which are the consumers personal preference, some individuals are allergic to certain things etc... You said that you have two different liquids one is PG and one is VG, but they are both 24mg of nicotine each. If you were to mix these two liquids you would indeed get a 50/50 blend but you would also be making a 48mg/ml nicotine solution, and this can be very dangerous. The American E-Liquid Manufacturing Standards Association (AEMSA) requires that all e-liquids sold within the United States not contain more than 36mg/ml for safety reasons.
You not being able to kick cigarettes after vaping for 3 weeks is not as uncommon as you may think. Vaping is a lot different from smoking in a variety of ways, and some people can find it very difficult to make the switch completely. The technique that I used when quitting smoking, was simply to not purchase any cigarettes. I did buy a pack once during my switch to vaping and to help stop myself from smoking every time I got the urge, I left my pack in my car. This discouraged me from smoking cigarettes because I had to go outside to my car every time I wanted to smoke, something that I simply didn't have time for. I hope that this help understand E-Liquid and gives you some ideas to help you quit smoking.


Check your math.... by putting 50/50 of 24MG you do NOT GET 48 !!! you get 24. you can not mix two liquids together and get a stronger amount of an element contained within each.

If you mix 0+24 you do not get 24, you get 50% or 12. That is the whole concept behind dilution. (as opposed to delusion)
 

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(76+24) + (76 +24) = (152+48) or 48/200 = 24%

Yes, you would have a solution that contains 48MG, but you would have 200ml of solution that it is in. The ratio would be the same.

Is there more MG in 30ML than in 15? YES.. but the MG is per 100ML. It's not the total MG in that bottle. Otherwise we would all go crazy!

Here is a 15ML with 3.6MG and a 30ML with 7.2 MG... which is stronger? Neither, they are both the same at 24MG per 100ML.
 

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It works out that way. If you fill half a glass with pepsi, and fill the rest of the glass with pepsi, you've still got a full glass of pepsi. So half a bottle of 24mg+ half a bottle of 24mg = a full bottle of 24mg. You can never achieve more then 24mg with 2 amounts of 24mg regardless if they're PG or VG. The only way you'd get more the 24mg is if you put in something higher like 36mg or 48 or 100. Then you would have to do the math to get the right mg of nicotine.
 

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There is still science and math involved in this (since we are talking solutions of molecules). For the most part, it has been toned down for easier comparison, BUT BEFORE YOU DO DIY, LEARN THE SCIENCE AND MATH BEHIND IT.
(and this isn't even talking about OHMs and resistance. That's a whole other area of science to understand when you start recoiling yourself).

A Little knowledge goes a long way.
 

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Yes, you would have a solution that contains 48MG, but you would have 200ml of solution that it is in. The ratio would be the same.

Is there more MG in 30ML than in 15? YES.. but the MG is per 100ML. It's not the total MG in that bottle. Otherwise we would all go crazy!

Here is a 15ML with 3.6MG and a 30ML with 7.2 MG... which is stronger? Neither, they are both the same at 24MG per 100ML.

I'm pretty sure the MG rating on a nicotine base is MG per ml, not MG per 100ml.

Otherwise a 100ml bottle of 24mg liquid would end up being 0.24mg/ml which wouldn't be enough to sustain even the lightest of ultra light analog smokers.
 

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Which is also why those 100mg bottles of liquid have a warning that pretty much says "If you vape this product pure you'll almost certainly die!" It's 100mg of nicotine in 1 ml.

Not harping on anybody individually, but this a a VERY dangerous subject for anybody to be confused on if they're getting into DIY. Farrrr more likely to kill you then using a sub-ohm build without proper knowledge.
 
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