Modern Vapor Requires a Driver's License?

[CaliforniaGirl]

So...I was having trouble finding Halo TruPure (still am) in the level I wanted (18mg) at a decent price, and I came upon Modern Vapor...good prices, seemed like fast shipping at a reasonable rate.

So I placed my order and I got a message telling me my order was on hold and that I had to fax them my driver's license.

I replied, "You're kidding me."

They told me that this is required in the state of CA...and I do get that selling nicotine products to underage people is against the law. I have to show my license when I buy them in a store, too. However, I have bought other juices from other marketers and did not have to fax them my license.

The truth is my scanner is out and I'd have had to go to the library to fax it, etc. and I didn't feel like it; plus, I have other suppliers, including one I can drive to (right around the corner from me), so I told them to just cancel my order.

But here was my question to them: If I am an underage girl who stole her mother's credit card long enough to place an order online, what would stop me from stealing my mother's driver's license long enough to scan it and e-mail it? I mean...this is their proof that it isn't a minor?

No answer from Modern Vapor.

 

[State O' Flux]

If that's a law in Cali... then they would be (sufficiently adequate to meet the letter of the law - probably) in compliance by needing to see a license. Who's license? Well, they can only, reasonably, do so much.

So... that's a law in Cali? Apparently, for in state transactions... same as buying smokes on line I guess.

I'd imagine we'll be seeing more of that sort of thing nation-wide.

 

[yaypudding]

Unfortunately in this time and climate small businesses need to limit their liability. The potential loss of business does not compare to any fines or litigation that may occur. It's gov't making changes that seem right but are in fact baseless, like so many other regulations, gun control for one. It defies logic, but they need a paper trail for any audits that might happen.

 

[MoonLit_Water]

I have never heard of this before. I have seen young people in stores buying ciggs getting ID'ed. But never have heard of online sales asking for this. I made a purchase just this sunday from a California vendor and didn't have to do that, The vendor did know i was a member here, but I don't think that should make a difference.

 

[Butters78]

Maybe they are preparing for the upcoming FDA regulations perhaps? Seems a bit silly because it would be easy for an underage person to photoshop a license. I doubly they would actually look up said number.

 

[Butters78]

I'd fax them this..

 

[gmb225]

they have to do it to stay in business its the law doesnt matter if it makes no sense. u mind as well use a library computer and make a copy to a flash drive of ur license so ur ready the next time it happens. i saw a thread the other day and 26 states passed laws making it illegal to sell vape gear to minors.

 

[Ben B Brown]

take a pic works as good as scanning it

 

[Ken_A]

Note to self: add Modern Vapor in CA to the list of places I will not purchase from.

 

[salemgold]

I was buying cigs from Europe right before I quit and I had to send them a copy of my ID to keep on file. If these products stay available online, this will most likely be the new norm.

 

[Butters78]

Who owns a fax machine anymore really? What is this, 1988?

 

[State O' Flux]

I have a question CG. Why couldn't you take a photo of your license with your phone, and send that? Hell, you could take a "selfie" (like in your avatar actually) holding the DL. ;-)

 

[mare ze dotes]

I used to have to do that when I bought cigs online from the reservations. It might just be going through the motions.

 

[cags]

I have no comment on the license thing (but I don't love it)

but, in case you didn't know, halo has discontinued true pure

 

[Butters78]

I have a question CG. Why couldn't you take a photo of your license with your phone, and send that? Hell, you could take a "selfie" (like in your avatar actually) holding the DL. ;-)

Like Emo dad!

 

[RobinBanks]

Is the smoking / vaping age 18 in their state?
I know in NJ you have to be 19 to both smoke and buy vape stuff, however you can have a credit card at 18.
Maybe they got busted in that loophole or something. sucks.
I couldn't be bothered to do that and I have a scanner at home.

 

[Kemosabe]

Who owns a fax machine anymore really? What is this, 1988?

yep LOL
dont forget to vote for Quayle. or Ultimate Warrior.

how 'bout a BRAND NEW CAR?

or get your racoon suit on \o/

 

[PhoenixD]

So...I was having trouble finding Halo TruPure (still am) in the level I wanted (18mg) at a decent price, and I came upon Modern Vapor...good prices, seemed like fast shipping at a reasonable rate.

So I placed my order and I got a message telling me my order was on hold and that I had to fax them my driver's license.

I replied, "You're kidding me."

They told me that this is required in the state of CA...and I do get that selling nicotine products to underage people is against the law. I have to show my license when I buy them in a store, too. However, I have bought other juices from other marketers and did not have to fax them my license.

The truth is my scanner is out and I'd have had to go to the library to fax it, etc. and I didn't feel like it; plus, I have other suppliers, including one I can drive to (right around the corner from me), so I told them to just cancel my order.

But here was my question to them: If I am an underage girl who stole her mother's credit card long enough to place an order online, what would stop me from stealing my mother's driver's license long enough to scan it and e-mail it? I mean...this is their proof that it isn't a minor?

No answer from Modern Vapor.

Anytime I get such an email (asking for personal information) I contact the business through their website or by phone. For security's sake I never reply to emails asking me for info. Addresses can be easily spoofed. I would be wary on this one. Just a thought.

 

[Butters78]

LOL Kemosabe great visuals. I was 10 then and was obsessed with my Nintendo. Making Mario fly was pure win.

 

[State O' Flux]

Like Emo dad!

Niiiice bowl cut. Does he have a pierced lip... or is he just drooling?