Mom found out.

[Derty]

I'm not even sure what else to say. My parents are very old school and they don't understand new tech as well as they should.

I was able to hide my cigarette smoking from them while I was in college as I lived out of state. She was in my house and saw the box for the Kanger Aerotank and the little bottles of juice when she opened up my drawer and asked me about it.

So I tried explaining that my eGo with the evod and my iTaste MVP with the aerotank are types of electronic cigarettes. She didn't believe me. She thinks that cigalikes are electronic cigs, which they are, but she incorrectly thinks these types of personal vaporizers aren't. I think my big ol box mod scared her, and the drip tip was confusing to her. She was accusing me of doing stupid stuff. While I agree smoking cigarettes was a stupid thing for me to do, the challenge is getting her to believe the truth that this is much safer.

I tried explaining that the juice gets heated up by the atomizer creating water vapor, and that the juice does have some nicotine in it (16mg in my blends), and that the juice I'm vaping is VG. She's really worried about my health and I told her that all I'm getting is the nicotine, and not the other 3000 (random number, I don't know the exact, nor would I like to know) chemicals that are found in cigarettes like the arsenic and the tar. I demonstrated that not a trace is left after all the vapor dissipates, but I'm wondering if she's thinking that this is too good to be true.

I think I need to bring up the fact that this is also much safer than cigars, which my dad smokes on occasion, but of course, it's perfectly okay when he does it.

What else should I say? I know my dad usually has more of a level head about things and I'll try explaining to him, but it's hard trying to explain things to someone who's very set in her ways and is very ignorant of other things. She listens to fox news all day long and is a die hard conservative who is very closed minded - even my bisexuality is a problem to her, so explaining this is also just as hard because she's so straight edge.

I like PBusardo's intro video to vaping, (and I love his reviews) but I feel like it's too long and winded, while very informative for getting the point across. Does anyone know of any other videos or reading material that's simple, straight and to the point? If it would make you say tldr; then she's definitely not going to read that. I need information for beginners that provides a good summary and barely scratches the surface. She's not going to sit through a 31 minute video.

Any help is appreciated!

Sit her down and talk to her yourself. You're an adult, you get to make your own choices now and you chose to be healthier. If she wants to argue let her know the American Lung Association was with the American Vapers when they presented their evidence to the FDA. At the very least with the ALA backing Vaping you should get SOME credit.

 

[johnwey01]

My parents were good rather than smoking real cigs...

 

[Ketsuban]

Thanks everyone for your posts, and to answer Equilibrium's question, I am post-grad; 23 years old.

It was just a bad situation, and thanks for the support. For now I'm going to keep my mouth shut and keep on vaping on my own time - (stealth in the bathroom at work, in my car, and when I'm watching TV at home) and if she questions it again or doesn't understand it I'll try explaining again. I'm pretty sure she's going to be telling my dad, but he's going on a business trip, so I won't hear from him for awhile. I kind of hope she asks me about it again because I really want her to understand. Progress is always good too. I started with 24mg nic, and now I got a yummy cucumber mint flavor with only 8mg, so I am going down. I never really considered myself too addicted, but when stuff was going down (like drama, finals, schoolwork, and work) having an analog used to keep my sanity in check. Now, vaping keeps me in check, and it helps with the dysthymia. Plus, I don't have to separate my clothes and take a shower right after I vape just like I felt I had to do after a smoke. I was very OCD about that.

I can't imagine what she would say if they somehow found out that I've been spending the vast majority of my nights recently at the hookah lounge with my friends. While I've quit the analogs, something about the water pipe keeps drawing me back. I think it's because I get too relaxed. It usually acts as a bit of an anti-depressant for me, as I typically refuse to take medication for my depression. I just forget and/or get lazy so there's no point. I know that this isn't good for me either, but at least I'm off the stinkies and that makes me healthier already.

Mom brought up a really valid point and asked me why I don't use exercise as my release.I'm out of shape and lazy, and that I played too much video games. I never really wanted to come outside. I hated smoking outside. Now I can vape indoors all I want!

 

[Warpigs]

I quit analogs 12/23/2013. And have been vaping from my Silver Bullet. I 1st started with an e-go type mod and then it became useless to me because I had to charge it too many times per day. I gave my old mod to my mother which has diabetes. I told her to try it out and get fruity/dessert type juices to keep her from eating sweets. So far after a couple months it does not seem to be working as I thought, She still eats high sugar things when she is not supposed to. My expierence has been wonderful, I got off the analogs and vape instead. Saving my life and saving me a ton of money that I was spending on analogs. Of course there is a price of getting a mod/buying your liquid/battiers/battery charger and replacement parts (coils/tanks etc). But in the end I'm spending much less than I did when I was smoking 3-4 packs of Malboro reds a day.

 

[Mutescream]

Interesting thread. On a related note, I noticed that my 17 year old daughter always seemed to have a pack of Cowboy Killers in her purse, or laying in her room. When questioned, she always says that they belonged to a friend. This week, I presented her with her own Halo Triton Iridescent 900 mAh, a pretty blue tank, and some sample liquids. She was delighted. I told her that the condition of this gift was to quit wasting money (my money) on cigs, and to keep it on the down low. If her mom finds out, we're both in big trouble...

Am I a bad dad?

As long as you get her to quit blowing smoke up your .... (about cigs), you did the right thing.

 

[NealBJr]

Interesting thread. On a related note, I noticed that my 17 year old daughter always seemed to have a pack of Cowboy Killers in her purse, or laying in her room. When questioned, she always says that they belonged to a friend. This week, I presented her with her own Halo Triton Iridescent 900 mAh, a pretty blue tank, and some sample liquids. She was delighted. I told her that the condition of this gift was to quit wasting money (my money) on cigs, and to keep it on the down low. If her mom finds out, we're both in big trouble...

Am I a bad dad?

I had to think about this one for a few days. I have a 16 year old son, and I vape, and he knows about it. I thought about it from my perspective... if I caught him with Cigarettes, would I do the same thing. And the answer, was yes, I would. It'd come with a long talk first, but like you, I would do that under the condition that I would never see a regular cigarette in his possession again. 17 is a bit different than 16, but not much. 15 or under, I wouldn't allow them to do any. That's not to say that I condone underage vaping, I wouldn't support it, but if it was an A Vs B type situation, then Vaping would win. I would also have the condition that I do not want to see him (or her) vape OR smoke until he/she was 18. I wouldn't feel comfortable.

It's areas like these that I consider "Grey" areas. life is rarely a black or white type situation, there's a wide variety of colors out there. The best thing I can do is try my best in the smartest way I know how. And I think your solution was the more intelligent answer to that problem. I honestly think you may have saved your daughter's life.

 

[BCRich2204]

I had to think about this one for a few days. I have a 16 year old son, and I vape, and he knows about it. I thought about it from my perspective... if I caught him with Cigarettes, would I do the same thing. And the answer, was yes, I would. It'd come with a long talk first, but like you, I would do that under the condition that I would never see a regular cigarette in his possession again.

I wouldn't. At that age, they don't know what they like... it may just be a fad, may just be trying things. I'd address the situation first, see if they can/will quit. If they do, fine. After failing to get them to quit.... then I'd try to switch them.

Nothing against vaping, but quiting on their own will, before they get addicted to nicotine & the habit... much better, especially in their formative years (which lasts well into their 20s).

 

[Bolivar]

She listens to fox news all day long and is a die hard conservative who is very closed minded....

Since she is a Fox fan, show her Gregg Gutfelds monologues on vaping. He is a vaper and a member of " The Five", one of Fox's popular daily shows. I've been less than impressed with Fox's slant on vaping in their regular news reporting, but Gutfeld lays it out there well. He has 2 monologues I know of on Youtube, each less than 5 minutes long.




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[Frenchfry1942]

Congrats!! on switching! I was an un-wise kid at one time. 35 years later I am finally going in a better direction. Congrats to you!

 

[NealBJr]

I wouldn't. At that age, they don't know what they like... it may just be a fad, may just be trying things. I'd address the situation first, see if they can/will quit. If they do, fine. After failing to get them to quit.... then I'd try to switch them.

Nothing against vaping, but quiting on their own will, before they get addicted to nicotine & the habit... much better, especially in their formative years (which lasts well into their 20s).

Funny, I had a conversation with my wife after I posted that reply, and told her what I said. She said almost the same thing.. try convincing him to quit all together first, then if that fails, then my way. I tend to agree with you and her.

 

[AndriaD]

Interesting thread. On a related note, I noticed that my 17 year old daughter always seemed to have a pack of Cowboy Killers in her purse, or laying in her room. When questioned, she always says that they belonged to a friend. This week, I presented her with her own Halo Triton Iridescent 900 mAh, a pretty blue tank, and some sample liquids. She was delighted. I told her that the condition of this gift was to quit wasting money (my money) on cigs, and to keep it on the down low. If her mom finds out, we're both in big trouble...

Am I a bad dad?

Nope; if someone is already smoking, doesn't matter how old they are; it's HARM REDUCTION, and that's really the best thing you can do for your kids, past a certain age. I think rather you're a proactive dad, and should be glad to be so sensible with your child. I'm sure she loves you dearly, and no doubt respects you a great deal too, for being a realist.

Andria

 

[blondeambition3]

I don't think you need to say anything else. You said she found these in your house, right?

Send her to the CASA website.

I second this motion

 

[HauntedMyst]

Don't listen to these guys, here is the plan. You need to lose a lot of weight quickly and every night, stick a needle in your arm until it's scared up. Don't shower for a few weeks or wash your clothes. Then go visit your mom and tell her you gave up vaping but you had to turn to something else because you gave up vaping because of her. Make sure you shake and rock back and forth a lot and scratch at your scars while you talk to her. Tell you really want to start vaping again. She'll probably say ok.

 

[blondeambition3]

Don't listen to these guys, here is the plan. You need to lose a lot of weight quickly and every night, stick a needle in your arm until it's scared up. Don't shower for a few weeks or wash your clothes. Then go visit your mom and tell her you gave up vaping but you had to turn to something else because you gave up vaping because of her. Make sure you shake and rock back and forth a lot and scratch at your scars while you talk to her. Tell you really want to start vaping again. She'll probably say ok.

HauntedMyst is right.. don't listen to us! This plan is PRICELESS!!!!!

 

[brunoearth]

I think you're doing a great job.
Vaping or bisexuality. Just give her sometime and she'll learn.
Just being yourself and don't let anyone bother you.

 

[BCRich2204]

Don't listen to these guys, here is the plan. You need to lose a lot of weight quickly and every night, stick a needle in your arm until it's scared up. Don't shower for a few weeks or wash your clothes. Then go visit your mom and tell her you gave up vaping but you had to turn to something else because you gave up vaping because of her. Make sure you shake and rock back and forth a lot and scratch at your scars while you talk to her. Tell you really want to start vaping again. She'll probably say ok.

Don't forget to ask for money... just until Friday.

 

[CKCalmer]

She listens to fox news all day long and is a die hard conservative who is very closed minded

I think we've found the problem. Not the cause, but surely one of the most prominent symptoms.

But seriously ... It's really good that you've found vaping as an effective and safer habit than smoking. And I'm sure your mom cares very much for your health and well being, but I doubt anyone who chooses to not accept science or evidence of fact is going to understand any new technology which is as revolutionary and beneficial to society as vaping.

Largely because my career as an educator made it a hard habit to break, I often find myself teaching people - either inadvertently or purposefully - about new things that I've learned which could have a positive effect on their lives. And I'm sure many other ECFers do the same when they discuss vaping with anyone who has yet to learn about it or see it up close. But with anyone who has already made up their mind before they walk into a room, it's most often going to be a waste of time and material.

I consider sharing the benefits of vaping with my friends (and with strangers, in fact) who smoke to be very important, which is why efficiency of effort in that regard is also very important. Trying to teach someone who fervently doesn't want to listen wastes time that I could have used teaching someone who does.

I think it's very noble that you want to share this wonderful new thing that is going to replace a very unhealthy habit in your life with your mother, but it sounds like vaping is simply going to be a topic that is too difficult for her to ever accept.

Be healthy, love your mother, but don't engage her in a conversation about vaping. Or politics.

 

[Migriffin]

If you're out of college and living in your own home, I believe that sentence explains it all. YOUR HOUSE. It really shouldn't matter to her what you have around.

 

[The_Crane0397]

I just told my mom too and she would rather me just stop using nicotine all together. ( and i live on my own too so its not like she can tell me what to do and what not to do) but shes glad im taking a healthier alternative. Im sure she'll come around.


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[Rickajho]

I don't think you need to say anything else. You said she found these in your house, right?

Send her to the CASA website.

My thoughts exactly.

That would be great - if we were dealing with adults acting like adults. However, first the OP hid his smoking from his parents. That's "not adult" thing number one. Then he has to try to explain vaping to his parents - which is pretty hard to do when vaping just pops up as something to do, and the OP can't put it in context of his former secret life of smoking. That's "not adult" thing number two. Sorry, not into sneaking things past parents at my age, and then trying to explain why I'm trying to hide things that I'm doing now, used to replace the other things I was hiding.