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If you had said "It doesn't work for Me" your post would make more sense.

Everyone is Different. And some things that Don't for you Work for other People.

It doesn't work in creating the throat hit that nicotine provides. Too many of us have tested this theory and found it doesn't work. And further down I explained that it "can" create an irritation that will help some in lowering their nic levels, but NOT to be confused with the TH from nicotine.
 

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Contains 63% Propylene Glycol, 35% Vegetable Glycerin and 2% Artificial Flavor. I wonder what that 2% is? Anyone try this stuff?

The reason why you don't see everyone using these "additives" to duplicate the throat hit provided by nicotine is because they don't duplicate the TH provided by nicotine.

If any of them actually could duplicate the TH from nic, it would be all over this forum and selling faster that it could be produced.
 

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It doesn't work in creating the throat hit that nicotine provides. Too many of us have tested this theory and found it doesn't work. And further down I explained that it "can" create an irritation that will help some in lowering their nic levels, but NOT to be confused with the TH from nicotine.

Who is this "US" that you Constantly refer to?

If you could learn One thing here on the ECF wv2win it would be nice that "One Size Doesn't Fit All"

Just because something doesn't work for You, Doesn't mean that it Doesn't Work for Everyone.

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BTW - What is the Big Deal about the OP trying a Few Drops of Alcohol in His e-Liquid? He might Like it. He Might Not. But at least He will know what Works for Him.
 

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The reason why you don't see everyone using these "additives" to duplicate the throat hit provided by nicotine is because they don't duplicate the TH provided by nicotine.

If any of them actually could duplicate the TH from nic, it would be all over this forum and selling faster that it could be produced.

Have you Actually tried this Product for Yourself?
 

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Who is this "US" that you Constantly refer to?

If you could learn One thing here on the ECF wv2win it would be nice that "One Size Doesn't Fit All"

Just because something doesn't work for You, Doesn't mean that it Doesn't Work for Everyone.

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BTW - What is the Big Deal about the OP trying a Few Drops of Alcohol in His e-Liquid? He might Like it. He Might Not. But at least He will know what Works for Him.

I would appreciate if you didn't misconstrue my comments. First, the test was approximately 25 ECF vets who all tried these additives such as PGA, pepper, flash, straight PG, menthol and a few more, all at the same time. End result: we all agreed that none of them produced throat hit like nicotine. Some, like pepper, did produce throat irritation.

What I have repeatidly stated is that these additives do not provide throat hit LIKE nicotine does. Some people might be fine with a throat sensation that one gets from menthol or throat burning that you get from pepper. And if that works for someone, that's great. Just don't confuse it with the TH from nicotine like you do.
 

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Have you Actually tried this Product for Yourself?

Yes. The reason it's not flying off the shelf and plastered all over ECF as a product that duplicates the throat hit that nicotine provides, is because it doesn't. It might help someone reduce their nic levels and that's great. It doesn't duplicate the TH from nicotine.
 

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What I have repeatidly stated is that these additives do not provide throat hit LIKE nicotine does. Some people might be fine with a throat sensation that one gets from menthol or throat burning that you get from pepper. And if that works for someone, that's great. Just don't confuse it with the TH from nicotine like you do.

Are we Splitting Hairs here?

I don't think Anyone said that Something Besides Nicotine gives TH Exactly Like Nicotine. If you want Nicotine TH, Use Nicotine.

But the OP wants to use 0mg. So TH via Nicotine is Not an Option.

What we are trying to Help the OP with in this Thread are Options that Don't Involve Nicotine.
 

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Yes. The reason it's not flying off the shelf and plastered all over ECF as a product that duplicates the throat hit that nicotine provides, is because it doesn't. It might help someone reduce their nic levels and that's great. It doesn't duplicate the TH from nicotine.

Once again, it doesn't work for You.

So does that mean it Doesn't work for Everyone?
 

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Is it weird that I have no desire to wean myself off nicotine?

I hover between 18mg and 24mg. I enjoy vaping and love a solid thump in my throat when I inhale. I just don't see myself ever giving that up.

i hear that. im a TH fanatic and i just cant seem to become satisfied unless i get my TH. im in the same range as you: 18-24mg. i have recently found that i can pull significant TH from 12mg juice as long as its in a ss mesh wicked genny. the ss wick combined with adjusting the top cap results in a satisfying vape. once i vape up my copious amounts of 18-24mg jucie, i plan to step down to 15mg.

That works plus a cinnamon type flavor will help a bit...even an undertone

i've never found anything that works well... there are some flavors like cola that do have TH @0mg

yep. what ive found to be slightly better is citrus vapes. Ecto Cooler for example has a TH at 0mg. Mtn Dew is another i have high hopes of having some type of innate kick at 0mg. i havent vaped it at 0 yet, only my typical 20mg, but i know that it vapes much harder than other juices at similar or higher nic%.

Contains 63% Propylene Glycol, 35% Vegetable Glycerin and 2% Artificial Flavor. I wonder what that 2% is? Anyone try this stuff?

i wouldnt be surprised if the 2% is PGA. someone posted a while ago about Flash being 100% PGA but that obviously cant be true.
 
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Is it weird that I have no desire to wean myself off nicotine?

I hover between 18mg and 24mg. I enjoy vaping and love a solid thump in my throat when I inhale. I just don't see myself ever giving that up.

this is my problem to a T.

I'm hovering at 12mg and don't think I'll be able to get to 6mg very easily
 
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Once again, it doesn't work for You.

So does that mean it Doesn't work for Everyone?

Do you have trouble with the "obvious". It hardly works for anyone or it would be selling like hot cakes. For the few that it does, I'm glad that it's helping them reach a goal. Just don't try and confuse people, give them false hope and let them believe that there is this wonderful product that duplicates the TH from nicotine.

Instead what I have told people looking for TH with 0 nic eliquid, is that there are additives that have worked for a few, by providing a throat irritation or sensation but doesn't duplicate the TH from nicotine. This may be all you need, but for most they don't give them what they need. Give it a shot.
 

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Do you have trouble with the "obvious". It hardly works for anyone or it would be selling like hot cakes. ...

It doesn't matter if it works for Anyone but the OP. Because this is his Thread and he is the One asking for Possible Solutions.

Confuse People? False Hope? Wonderful Products?

I think you are taking this, as with Most things on this Forum, Way to Seriously. Go back and Reread what has been posted here.

I don't see anyone Guaranteeing Anything. Except for you who has said that adding Alcohol Doesn't work for Everyone.
 

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Do you ever listen to yourself??? What mountain are you residing on that you can deliver these "great sermons of wisdom?" I have never read more condescending posts in my life, except for all the other ones you post. Geez. Do you portend to KNOW EVERYTHING? If so, where shall we lay down to worship you? :nah:
Do you have trouble with the "obvious". It hardly works for anyone or it would be selling like hot cakes. For the few that it does, I'm glad that it's helping them reach a goal. Just don't try and confuse people, give them false hope and let them believe that there is this wonderful product that duplicates the TH from nicotine.

Instead what I have told people looking for TH with 0 nic eliquid, is that there are additives that have worked for a few, by providing a throat irritation or sensation but doesn't duplicate the TH from nicotine. This may be all you need, but for most they don't give them what they need. Give it a shot.
 

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It doesn't matter if it works for Anyone but the OP. Because this is his Thread and he is the One asking for Possible Solutions.

Confuse People? False Hope? Wonderful Products?

I think you are taking this, as with Most things on this Forum, Way to Seriously. Go back and Reread what has been posted here.

I don't see anyone Guaranteeing Anything. Except for you who has said that adding Alcohol Doesn't work for Everyone.

As is your normal tactic, you take words out of context to fit your agenda instead of providing the entire response and responding to the entire post. What part of my advising others to try additvies but understand it won't be the same as TH from nicotine didn't you get??

From reading many of your other posts, I know you prefer to misdirect instead of providing the pros and cons of a particular request.
 
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