Mount Baker Vapor (MBV) flavor'ings' Recipes
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I have MBV Double Dutch Chocolate, Snack Candy Bar, and Wintergreen flavors on the way. I can't find any post with starting percentages for these flavors. I know most are around 15% but some are less. Anyone mixed theses as "stand alone" flavors? Any ideas?
CRITICAL ALERT!
I have posted some recipes up here where the mixing percentages are WAY OFF!
What happened is this, I have used "droppers" to mix small batches of 5ml. As I noticed that the 5ml in a 15ml bottle didn't take up 1/3 of the bottle, I knew something wasn't right. I just figured that the "drops" were not actually 20 drops per mil and that all would still be consistent, but not quite 5ml in the test batches.
Then, as I mixed larger batches of juice (30-50ml) I no longer used droppers and instead used oral syringes so I would not have to count out 500 drops of something.
Well, as the larger batches started completing their steep and as I started vaping them, it turned out that they tasted nothing like the test batches!
So I grabbed a graduated 10ml glass cylinder and test measured my PG, VG, nicotine, and flavorings. I was shocked at the results! I use the ejuicemeup calculator and use the drops column on the test batches, and if successful I then made batches of 30-50ml juices using the milliliter column. Therein lied my major mistake.
Here is how many "drops" for each liquid I measured it takes to equal 1ml (I used the basic assumption on the calculator that 20 drops = 1ml when mixing test batches): 48mg 100% PG - 33 drops for 1ml; Distilled Water - 26 drops for 1 ml; VG - 29 drops for 1 ml; PG - 40 drops for 1ml; flavorings - 35 drops for 1ml
As you can see, the drops per milliliter is extremely inconsistent and the calculator cannot be adjusted to factor in each different ratio. But at a small level (5ml) the inconsistencies are not large enough to affect the taste in a major way. But once one starts using the same formula and uses milliliters instead of drops for measuring, it's like being 1 degree off when walking, doesn't matter for a block or two, but after 20 miles you will be far away from your goal.
So, from here on out I will no longer use ANY dropper to measure even my test batches and will ONLY USE oral syringes, as I know that 1ml equals 1ml, period.
Sorry for the posting of the wrong recipe percentages (not all of them though) and I will come back and repost the corrections to the recipes once I get it all worked out.
I have posted some recipes up here where the mixing percentages are WAY OFF!
What happened is this, I have used "droppers" to mix small batches of 5ml. As I noticed that the 5ml in a 15ml bottle didn't take up 1/3 of the bottle, I knew something wasn't right. I just figured that the "drops" were not actually 20 drops per mil and that all would still be consistent, but not quite 5ml in the test batches.
Then, as I mixed larger batches of juice (30-50ml) I no longer used droppers and instead used oral syringes so I would not have to count out 500 drops of something.
Well, as the larger batches started completing their steep and as I started vaping them, it turned out that they tasted nothing like the test batches!
So I grabbed a graduated 10ml glass cylinder and test measured my PG, VG, nicotine, and flavorings. I was shocked at the results! I use the ejuicemeup calculator and use the drops column on the test batches, and if successful I then made batches of 30-50ml juices using the milliliter column. Therein lied my major mistake.
Here is how many "drops" for each liquid I measured it takes to equal 1ml (I used the basic assumption on the calculator that 20 drops = 1ml when mixing test batches): 48mg 100% PG - 33 drops for 1ml; Distilled Water - 26 drops for 1 ml; VG - 29 drops for 1 ml; PG - 40 drops for 1ml; flavorings - 35 drops for 1ml
As you can see, the drops per milliliter is extremely inconsistent and the calculator cannot be adjusted to factor in each different ratio. But at a small level (5ml) the inconsistencies are not large enough to affect the taste in a major way. But once one starts using the same formula and uses milliliters instead of drops for measuring, it's like being 1 degree off when walking, doesn't matter for a block or two, but after 20 miles you will be far away from your goal.
So, from here on out I will no longer use ANY dropper to measure even my test batches and will ONLY USE oral syringes, as I know that 1ml equals 1ml, period.
Sorry for the posting of the wrong recipe percentages (not all of them though) and I will come back and repost the corrections to the recipes once I get it all worked out.
I haven't yet mixed any of these, but I suggest starting at about 10% flavoring and do NOT use droppers for measuring (see my last post)
I just ordered a bunch of flavors and a couple bottles of pre-mixed from Mt baker today....I'll be working on a caramel apple,a blueberry,an RY4 caramel,nutty,creamy flavor and halo voodoo clone for my first try's.I am not sure how long to steep new juices,that is my achilles heel so to say.
20 drops equals 20 drops and that is all. Noone should ever use drops to measure flavorings however many do just that. Even if you test each PG .VG, flavorings etc. the number of drops per ml will change with temperature changes and with the amount of liquid in the bottle and how fast the drops form and fall.
I have seen Utube videos where they pour what looks like about 1/3 bottle of this , 1/3 bottle that that ,40 drops of Nic base and 8 drops of flavoring give it a shake and a try and rave about how great it is.
I have seen Utube videos where they pour what looks like about 1/3 bottle of this , 1/3 bottle that that ,40 drops of Nic base and 8 drops of flavoring give it a shake and a try and rave about how great it is.
Does anyone have any good recipes that use MBV Dark Chocolate flavoring? I've been adding 5 drops of it to 2ml tank full of EVO Frost Bite (a lighter peppermint sort-of flavor), and that's good, but I'd like to use it in a 100% DIY juice mix using MBV flavors. I just don't really know where to start with it. Any suggestions? I'm into dessert/drink/fruit flavors, not tobacco flavors. Thanks.
I just finished a batch of MBV Sugar Cookie and got it flavored to my liking. To me a sugar cookie has "dough" and "sweet" flavors. Not really anything else. To me that is what it pretty much taste like but I may have made it a little too sweet.
The 5ml test batch was 80% PG and 20% VG and no nic. Flavoring was added at 15%. All ingredents were mixed in a 10ml test tube and measured with 14 or 16 gauge needles and syringes. My dropper has been checked and was drops 21 drops per ml. The test mix was heated to 120 deg F for 2 hours and allowed to steep in the capped test tube for 7 days.
All testing was done in an Evod with a 2 ohm coil and a fixed voltage Ego battery. After the steeping was complete I vaped the 15% mixture. Pretty good but somewhat weak for my taste. Also not sweet enough for my taste. I measured .95 ml into a dram bottle and added one drop of MBV Cotton Candy. This increased total volume to 1ml and added 5% sweetener. In another dram bottle I measured .9ml of the original 15% mix and added one drop of Sugar Cookie flavoring and one drop of MBV Cotton Candy (made flavor 20% and sweetener 5%).Let steep for two days and tried each. The 15% batch was still a little weak but the sweetness tasted right. The 20% batch had somewhat of an "off" flavor. Not bad but not good.
I mixed to two dram bottles together which resulted in a 17.5% flavor mixture and 5% sweetener. This was pretty much perfect for my taste. I mixed a 5ml bottle to these specs and added nic at 20%, steeped for four days and tried again. It was very good and taste like I think a sugar cookie taste. The nic seemed to bring out the sweet taste more so the only thing that I might change on the next batch is to reduce the Cotton Candy to about 3%.
If you like your flavors weak or muted then the 15% mix will probably work for you. I like mine bold and a lot of taste so I will stick with the 17.5% mix. This is a good sweet bakery type mix but no real distinct flavor. It could probably be mixed with Peanut Butter or some other flavoring for a flavored cookie.
Final Mix
80% PG / 20% VG / 20mg Nic
MBV Sugar Cookie 17.5%
MBV Cotton Candy 3-5% (sweeten to taste)
The 5ml test batch was 80% PG and 20% VG and no nic. Flavoring was added at 15%. All ingredents were mixed in a 10ml test tube and measured with 14 or 16 gauge needles and syringes. My dropper has been checked and was drops 21 drops per ml. The test mix was heated to 120 deg F for 2 hours and allowed to steep in the capped test tube for 7 days.
All testing was done in an Evod with a 2 ohm coil and a fixed voltage Ego battery. After the steeping was complete I vaped the 15% mixture. Pretty good but somewhat weak for my taste. Also not sweet enough for my taste. I measured .95 ml into a dram bottle and added one drop of MBV Cotton Candy. This increased total volume to 1ml and added 5% sweetener. In another dram bottle I measured .9ml of the original 15% mix and added one drop of Sugar Cookie flavoring and one drop of MBV Cotton Candy (made flavor 20% and sweetener 5%).Let steep for two days and tried each. The 15% batch was still a little weak but the sweetness tasted right. The 20% batch had somewhat of an "off" flavor. Not bad but not good.
I mixed to two dram bottles together which resulted in a 17.5% flavor mixture and 5% sweetener. This was pretty much perfect for my taste. I mixed a 5ml bottle to these specs and added nic at 20%, steeped for four days and tried again. It was very good and taste like I think a sugar cookie taste. The nic seemed to bring out the sweet taste more so the only thing that I might change on the next batch is to reduce the Cotton Candy to about 3%.
If you like your flavors weak or muted then the 15% mix will probably work for you. I like mine bold and a lot of taste so I will stick with the 17.5% mix. This is a good sweet bakery type mix but no real distinct flavor. It could probably be mixed with Peanut Butter or some other flavoring for a flavored cookie.
Final Mix
80% PG / 20% VG / 20mg Nic
MBV Sugar Cookie 17.5%
MBV Cotton Candy 3-5% (sweeten to taste)
I steep everything at least one week before I even attempt to taste it. I watch the color to see if it is changing and I smell the batch to see if it has any odd smells like alcohol, floral etc...
Dark chocolate: I have the flavoring but have not worked with it exclusively yet. Think about the flavoring like this though, "Valentines Day" and a box of chocolates, then think about what flavors those different chocolates have. Raspberry? Orange? Nuts? Caramel? Then I may think about the piece of chocolate and how much of it coats the piece of candy as I try to think about what percentage to use. I could be way off base here, but that's my thought process without having worked with it much yet.
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MBV Café Coffee
65/35 18mg Nicotene (all I had at the time) - 88.88%
PG - .24%
VG - .88%
MBV Café Coffee concentration - 10%
2 drops of TFA Sweetener (MBV is always out)
Mix result = 16mg, 68/32
After 2 weeks of steeping I tasted this and it was awful, very bitter. I decided to add the 2 drops of sweetener then and let it steep two more weeks.
Total steep time = FOUR WEEKS
Filled my Protank II on my eVic at 5.7 watts and 3.77 volts with a 2.5 ohm coil and a 4-6 second burn and it tastes awesome to me. Tastes like a dark roasted coffee with a bit of sugar.
Next time I will change to 48mg, 100% PG and adjust the PG/VG to get me at 65/35. And instead of adding 2 drops of sweetener I will add 2% MBV Sweet Cream (I like cream and sugar in my coffee)
But, even as it is as mixed above, I am on my second tank today!
CAUTION! As I have recently posted, my measuring methods for test batches was flawed (using droppers) and this recipe may not be accurate! The most critical error is the MBV Café Coffee flavoring which may be up to 1/2 of the volume of what was originally posted. I will reattempt this recipe soon. I apologize for the error.
CAUTION! As I have recently posted, my measuring methods for test batches was flawed (using droppers) and this recipe may not be accurate! The most critical error is the MBV flavorings which may be up to 1/2 of the volume of what was originally posted. I will reattempt this recipe soon. I apologize for the error.
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CAUTION! As I have recently posted, my measuring methods for test batches was flawed (using droppers) and this recipe may not be accurate! The most critical error is the MBV Cinnamon Roll (the other recipes may be accurate in a large batch) which may be up to 1/2 of the volume of what was originally posted. I will reattempt this recipe soon. I apologize for the error.
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