Moving on from MVP?

[niczgreat]

I say pooh, pooh [With Affection ] to the naysayers who down the MVP for stamina on the Battery.

When you crack open a MVP you'll see Lithium Ion Battery Packs. Different technology then cylindrical batteries. I have experience with them because I have an electric bike and I've seen the bats cracked open.

The rating on these bad boys is 300 charges before you lose 20% of your life cycle. [Researched on Internet] many don't realize that a charge is a complete charge. So if you use it for a day and use half the battery [typical use] you should be able to get 600 charges out of that battery or almost 2 years before losing 20% your charge which is still plenty to get you through a day.

I just hope my MVP lasts 2 years of daily use, but I think something else will break first.

 

[dreamreaper]

I say pooh, pooh [With Affection ] to the naysayers who down the MVP for stamina on the Battery.

When you crack open a MVP you'll see Lithium Ion Battery Packs. Different technology then cylindrical batteries. I have experience with them because I have an electric bike and I've seen the bats cracked open.

The rating on these bad boys is 300 charges before you lose 20% of your life cycle. [Researched on Internet] many don't realize that a charge is a complete charge. So if you use it for a day and use half the battery [typical use] you should be able to get 600 charges out of that battery or almost 2 years before losing 20% your charge which is still plenty to get you through a day.

I just hope my MVP lasts 2 years of daily use, but I think something else will break first.

I charge mine on average every 3 days and its still around 3.7, I guess I would be looking at about 3 years. I bet I kill it before that happens.

 

[Baditude]

ok..... im not the brightest person but....... isn't 4 volts 4volts????? whether its coming from a 150.00 provari or a 40.00 vamo??? they are both doing the same thing... right?? how could one 4 volt mod make a tank vape any better then another mod set at 4 volts??

Yes, 4 volt is 4 volts. But how the processor delivers the voltage to the atomizer can make a difference in the vape experience. Provari owners have been saying this for years. Because of the PWM cycle of 800 hz, compared to the much slower 33.3 hz PWM cycle of the Vamo, the Provari makes a smoother vape.

Now not everyone will notice the difference. Some will, and some will actually prefer the rattlesnake 33.3 hz of a Vamo over the 800 hz of the Provari. Is the difference worth the price of a Provari over a Vamo? Probably not, but people buy a Provari for more reasons than that.

The iTaste MVP and iTaste VV offer less expensive alternatives to the better PWM cycle processors than a Proveri or DNA mod.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/488840-rattlesnake-effect-why-cheapo-vv-exception-itaste-mvp-dont-vape-same-provari-dna20d.html

 

[B1sh0p]

If I was going to "upgrade" from an MVP, it would be with a DNA 20 mod or a Reo. The Provari is solid and lasts forever, but probably won't give you a different experience.

 

[Hill]

I still have an MVP1 I use everyday along with my Provari. Had it for 5 months still works great. I'll be a sad man when it finally does give out.

 

[jclay1192]

I'm not going to lie and link you mods because I have NOO idea how to use a Mech Mod.. Oneday, anwayways.. why in the world would you move on from your MVP 2.0? Battery is amazing.. Vape is crazy,, the pin may be deep welled to make a connection but on all my other mods.. but it gives an amazing draw i loveee the MVP!!

but if you need to upgrade here you go ProVari Zombie Electronic Cigarettes: Zombie Electric Cigarette, Zombie E-Cigarette

i'll be jealous if you do get that.. reosmods.com i hear these are nice too

 

[Hill]

ok..... im not the brightest person but....... isn't 4 volts 4volts????? whether its coming from a 150.00 provari or a 40.00 vamo??? they are both doing the same thing... right?? how could one 4 volt mod make a tank vape any better then another mod set at 4 volts??

Please refer to Baditude's post. #7 i believe. Pulse modulation vs. continuos current.

 

[Lombaowski]

I might get a REO, but I see no reason to get any other mod beyond the MVP. It does everything i want and doesn't look like a maglite.

 

[niczgreat]

I might get a REO, but I see no reason to get any other mod beyond the MVP. It does everything i want and doesn't look like a maglite.

HI Lombaowski,
If you are interested in a bottom feeder this thread I compiled has all the manufacturers available for Bottom Feeders.

Some of them will take your breath away.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9810-updated-bottom-feeding-list-vendors.html

 

[dreamreaper]

I am a little reluctant to post this, and have actually typed it a couple times and deleted it as I am not trying to start a war that seems to break out when something like this gets asked.

I was really considering getting a ProVari as my next one, but after reading through this whole thread a couple of times I am starting to second guess myself. I see a lot of people say the ProVari is comparable to the MVP2. I have both a MVP2 and Vamo and for some reason, I seem to prefer the Vamo to the MVP2. Would this mean I probably wouldnt like the ProVari? Am I just thinking to much into it?

I would love to own a ProVari for the piece of mind knowing it will last forever and Made in USA product, but I dont want to throw $200 at something I am not going to like to use.

 

[Criticalmass]

I am a little reluctant to post this, and have actually typed it a couple times and deleted it as I am not trying to start a war that seems to break out when something like this gets asked.

I was really considering getting a ProVari as my next one, but after reading through this whole thread a couple of times I am starting to second guess myself. I see a lot of people say the ProVari is comparable to the MVP2. I have both a MVP2 and Vamo and for some reason, I seem to prefer the Vamo to the MVP2. Would this mean I probably wouldnt like the ProVari? Am I just thinking to much into it?

I would love to own a ProVari for the piece of mind knowing it will last forever and Made in USA product, but I dont want to throw $200 at something I am not going to like to use.

Provari is a solid product but it is slowly becoming outdated. Things like airflow control, slotted heads to allow air to get to the tanks, variable wattage, are all becoming the norm. And within a year I think most VV/VW devices will also have internal charging circuits as well as replaceable batteries. That's just my opinion on it but from the reviews I have been watching I have noticed these issues pop up from time to time with the Provari.

 

[CommaHolly]

I say pooh, pooh [With Affection ] to the naysayers who down the MVP for stamina on the Battery.

When you crack open a MVP you'll see Lithium Ion Battery Packs. Different technology then cylindrical batteries. I have experience with them because I have an electric bike and I've seen the bats cracked open.

The rating on these bad boys is 300 charges before you lose 20% of your life cycle. [Researched on Internet] many don't realize that a charge is a complete charge. So if you use it for a day and use half the battery [typical use] you should be able to get 600 charges out of that battery or almost 2 years before losing 20% your charge which is still plenty to get you through a day.

I just hope my MVP lasts 2 years of daily use, but I think something else will break first.

well, unless you're me,,,,,,,,,,,who can kill an MPV in 6 hours (maybe 8),,,,,

No kidding, I charge mine 2x a day,,,,,,,,,although, to be fair, I usually charge it shortly after turning orange, rather than waiting for it to go red.

I get up at 9am,,,,,,,,,and I'm charging it at about 3pm,,,,,,,,,,

it takes a couple hours, maybe 3 to charge,,,,,,,,,,,I go to bed at about midnight,,,,,,,,,maybe 1am,,,,,,and it's usually yellow again by then, so I pop it back on the charger.

 

[CommaHolly]

Provari is a solid product but it is slowly becoming outdated. Things like airflow control, slotted heads to allow air to get to the tanks, variable wattage, are all becoming the norm. And within a year I think most VV/VW devices will also have internal charging circuits as well as replaceable batteries. That's just my opinion on it but from the reviews I have been watching I have noticed these issues pop up from time to time with the Provari.

I don't want all those fancy things.

I just want it to work well now,,,,,,,and 2 or 3 years from now. And I want to be able to send it in to be fixed for a reasonable price rather than have to buy a new one.

Nothing wrong with all those fancy things,,,,,,,,nothing wrong with people who want them,,,,,,,,

I'm just not one of them.

 

[dreamreaper]

Provari is a solid product but it is slowly becoming outdated. Things like airflow control, slotted heads to allow air to get to the tanks, variable wattage, are all becoming the norm. And within a year I think most VV/VW devices will also have internal charging circuits as well as replaceable batteries. That's just my opinion on it but from the reviews I have been watching I have noticed these issues pop up from time to time with the Provari.

I am not really worried about all the bells and whistles so to speak. I am just worried about it vaping similar to my MVP2 and me still preferring the Vamo to it.

Couldn't something like airflow be helped with the use of a airflow adapter or is that for something different than what your referring to?

 

[niczgreat]

well, unless you're me,,,,,,,,,,,who can kill an MPV in 6 hours (maybe 8),,,,,

No kidding, I charge mine 2x a day,,,,,,,,,although, to be fair, I usually charge it shortly after turning orange, rather than waiting for it to go red.

I get up at 9am,,,,,,,,,and I'm charging it at about 3pm,,,,,,,,,,

it takes a couple hours, maybe 3 to charge,,,,,,,,,,,I go to bed at about midnight,,,,,,,,,maybe 1am,,,,,,and it's usually yellow again by then, so I pop it back on the charger.

I'm curious what is the voltage level and ohms that you vape at? Your experience isn't in line with what others report.

 

[Tbaggerr]

well, unless you're me,,,,,,,,,,,who can kill an MPV in 6 hours (maybe 8),,,,,

No kidding, I charge mine 2x a day,,,,,,,,,although, to be fair, I usually charge it shortly after turning orange, rather than waiting for it to go red.

I get up at 9am,,,,,,,,,and I'm charging it at about 3pm,,,,,,,,,,

it takes a couple hours, maybe 3 to charge,,,,,,,,,,,I go to bed at about midnight,,,,,,,,,maybe 1am,,,,,,and it's usually yellow again by then, so I pop it back on the charger.

That's insane! I am a Very heavy vaper and have mine set to 11 watts on everything (mostly run 2.5 dual coil carto tanks which maxes out my voltage and dosent reach 11) and have yet to come close to draining it. If are having to charge it in 6 hours from full then you have a problem with your device. Either that you you are not getting enough normal air because every breath would have to be a vape to drain it that fast.

 

[Baditude]

I was really considering getting a ProVari as my next one, but after reading through this whole thread a couple of times I am starting to second guess myself. I see a lot of people say the ProVari is comparable to the MVP2. I have both a MVP2 and Vamo and for some reason, I seem to prefer the Vamo to the MVP2. Would this mean I probably wouldn't like the ProVari? Am I just thinking to much into it?

I would love to own a ProVari for the piece of mind knowing it will last forever and Made in USA product, but I dont want to throw $200 at something I am not going to like to use.

I would ask what it is that you like about the Vamo over the MVP?

Is it because of the form factor? Tube vs box?

Size factor? Vamo would seem to be a larger mod, MVP smaller.

Both have similar feature sets: VV/VW, displays for voltage/wattage, etc.

Both have an expected life expectancy of 2 years or less being that they are Chinese made in origin; if either require repair you can consider them to be a throw-away.

Provari has a 1 year warranty. Even after warranty expiration, Provape will repair a Provari for as long as you are the owner and have it returned good as new within a few days for reasonable service fees. Theoretically it can be used for as long as you decide you want to.

Standard Provari Post-Warranty Service Repair Costs"

Replace Window and screws- $10.00
Replace Circuit Board - $65.00
Upgrade to V2 - $20.00
Replace plastic pushbutton - $5.00
Repairs to the circuit board - $25.00
Cleaning - $20.00
Replace top cap - $15.00
Broken Cartomizer Service - $10.00
Return shipping within the USA - $5.00

 

[jclay1192]

I don't want all those fancy things.

I just want it to work well now,,,,,,,and 2 or 3 years from now. And I want to be able to send it in to be fixed for a reasonable price rather than have to buy a new one.

Nothing wrong with all those fancy things,,,,,,,,nothing wrong with people who want them,,,,,,,,

I'm just not one of them.

now the real question is,, does a 4x increase in price justify a "simpler" product that can be fixed if you handle said item (almost as much as an iphone) with little to no care.

 

[dreamreaper]

I would ask what it is that you like about the Vamo over the MVP?

I am not sure what it is, and I could be the one causing the problem for all I know. I seem to get a better draw, taste, throat hit out of the Vamo compared to the MVP2. That is using the same tank with the same juice just swapping from one to the other. I have tried different voltages/watts on the MVP2 and for some reason I just cant get it to hit like the Vamo for me. I have tried various draw/inhale techniques that you see talked about around the forums, and I just cant make it work.

Is it because of the form factor? Tube vs box?

I do tend to like the form factor better on the Vamo and the button seems easier for me to hit on it than the MVP2. I can just pick the Vamo up and use it, with the MVP it takes a little fidgeting to get it lined up. Thats not really a problem and I didnt really base weather I liked one over the other on that. I knew going in that I probably prefer the form factor to one over the other..

Size factor? Vamo would seem to be a larger mod, MVP smaller.

I actually like the smallness of the MVP compared to the Vamo. I can put my pinkie finger under it to kind of support/balance/keep from dropping it. I was considering the Mini ProVari because of this.

Both have similar feature sets: VV/VW, displays for voltage/wattage, etc.

Not really sure why or maybe there isnt a substancial difference, but the VV/VW doesnt really seem to be much difference to me. I can get by using either one, actually on the MVP2 I prefer the VV to the VW.

Both have an expected life expectancy of 2 years or less being that they are Chinese made in origin; if either require repair you can consider them to be a throw-away.

Thats exactly what I want to get away from. I want something I know is going to last and if it breaks or I break it, I know I can get it fixed. I know people will say that the cost of a new MVP2 or Vamo is just about the same as the repair cost of a ProVari and while thats true. I do want to move up to something nicer and when getting to $100+ I want something more than a throw away. Plus I think the ProVari is one of the nices looking ones out there. My other consideration would be the iTaste 134 but at $130 for something thats almost impossible to get repaired really puts a damper on that for me.

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Now after all that I have been using the MVP2 more and more as of late to try and get a feel for it. I do tend to notice that every hit of it seems to be about the same, where as the Vamo one time is GREAT and the next time not so much. But the MVP2 just holds its own and does what it does time and again.

Could it be the sound of the Vamo making me "think" its doing a better job where as the MVP2 (to me) is dead quiet and doing its job?

 

[_Lee]

The MVP is my favorite by far from a performance standpoint. (very little experience) There are a lot of things I would change about it, but it is purely personal preference things. (button placement, tank placement, weight, form factor, non-replaceable batteries) Outside of that, it does its job and does it consistently.

Great thread though, OP.