MVP 2 vs Vamo

[BDavid]

Ok so I've been vaping for about close to 3 weeks using an eGo battery and a kanger pro tank 2. I have been curious about moving up to a device of some sort with variable voltage and the MVP 2 and the Vamo are two that I have seen a lot of chat about on the forum. I wanted to know what the main differences between the two are, besides the obvious shape and size of the two devices, and which of the two most people prefer for performance.

I know that they are liked by many people but I'm still a bit unsure about what the variable wattage and variable voltage do to your vaping experience and how each of them make a difference to the vaping experience so if someone could help me out by explaining such I'd appreciate it!

 

[DKP#]

VV allows you to adjust the heat. You can try different juices with different settings to find your "sweet spot" without changing head resistances. Much better than a fixed battery IMO. VW is basically the same thing. It just adjusts the voltage for you if you change resistance (a different head or topper).

MVP2
Convenient. All you need. Plug it right in to charge
Disposable. When the battery dies, it's trash

Vamo:
Need to buy charger and batteries. Batteries have to be removed to charge.
When the battery dies, you can get a new one for about $10

If you're considering the vamo, take a look at the SVD. Same price from fasttech. Slightly bigger, and not as "sleek" but much better build quality. You can lock the setting to prevent accidental changes that happen with the vamo

 

[Baditude]

Both are considered good beginner regulated mods.

The MVP is a better constructed device that should prove to be more durable than the Vamo. The Vamo has had a history of the top connector threads wearing out in as little as 3 months use and having insulator issues. It is not as pocket-friendly as the MVP. The finish on some has worn away to reveal the bare metal beneath.

Some MVP's have had issues with connecting with various juice attachments, which can usually be corrected by making an adjustment of the center pin height. Getting 2 - 3 days on a charge is a huge benefit; you can also use it as a passthru. No need to purchase multiple batteries and a charger like you would with the Vamo.

The MVP under an oscelloscope will have a flatter PWM (pulse width modulation) wave, suggesting it produces a "smoother" vape than most of the other Chinese-manufactured regulated mods. This has been compared to much more expensive mods like the Provari and DNA mods. The Vamo uses a cheaper processor with the typical "rattlesnake" 33.3 hz PWM signal. Not all will notice it, but many will.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...itaste-mvp-dont-vape-same-provari-dna20d.html

I own both two Provari's and an MVP, and I can attest to the smoother vape that these provide over other variable voltage mods that I own.

If it was me, the MVP is a no-brainer. The only downside that I see with the MVP is its non-replaceable built-in battery, which should last at least 2 - 3 years. Considering most Chinese made mods will never see their second birthday still alive and working, this difference between a Vamo and an MVP isn't much of a factor considering they are so similar in price.

 

[Dakota Jim]

vamo user here - have mvp1

personally don't like the button on mvp1 - mvp2 appears to be raised up a little which would be a plus for me

vamo as stated above is very easy to accidently change settings - I prefer the ability to change out batteries and to be able to go down to 18350

SVD was not available when I upgraded or I would probably have went with it

 

[CreepyLady]

Both are considered good beginner regulated mods.

The MVP is a better constructed device that should prove to be more durable than the Vamo. The Vamo has had a history of the top connector threads wearing out after 3 months and having insulator issues. It is not as pocket-friendly as the MVP. The finish on many has worn away on many to reveal the bare metal beneath.

Some MVP's have had issues with connecting with various juice attachments, which can usually be corrected by making an adjustment of the center pin height. Getting 2 - 3 days on a charge is a huge benefit; you can also use it as a passthru. No need to purchase multiple batteries and a charger like you would with the Vamo.

The MVP under an oscelloscope will have a flatter PWM (pulse width modulation) wave, suggesting it produces a "smoother" vape than most of the other Chinese-manufactured regulated mods. This has been compared to much more expensive mods like the Provari and DNA mods. The Vamo uses a cheaper processor with the typical "rattlesnake" 33.3 hz PWM signal. Not all will notice it, but many will.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...itaste-mvp-dont-vape-same-provari-dna20d.html

I own both two Provari's and an MVP, and I can attest to the smoother vape that these provide over other variable voltage mods that I own.

If it was me, the MVP is a no-brainer. The only downside that I see with the MVP is its non-replaceable built-in battery, which should last at least 2 - 3 years. Considering most Chinese made mods will never see their second birthday still alive and working, this difference between a Vamo and an MVP isn't much of a factor considering they are so similar in price.

I have both and this^^^ is SPOT on. MVP all day. I HATE the rattlesnake effect! And every hit on the mvp is smooth and identical to the last.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Have owned the Vamo V3 for 10+ months and button a little wonky. Have owned the Vamo V3 for 4+ months and all is fine. No finish problems as I own the stainless steel. Quality with the Vamo is very hit and miss among buyers and it was a GREAT APV for the budget minded when it first came out but there are other far superior APVs available at the same price point. If buying the Vamo you'll either:
have one that lasts and lasts.
have one that falls apart within months.
have one that almost instantly has issues.
Purely the luck of the draw IMO.
Also own the MVP 2 and my only minor complaint is the button is a little stiff. In his review Pbusardo stated he wasn't too happy with the wattage accuracy. For the $$ it's a good PV.
Favorite APV right now is my Sigelei Z-Max V3- costs a little more but superior quality with replaceable batteries. Garners rave reviews and I now know why.

If working with a budget the MVP 2 is the best value as a long term APV.

 

[PBOB]

I own and use the Vamo v3 on a daily basis and is working fine for me. When my brother-in-law asked my opinion on what his first vv/vw mod should be, I suggested the MVP v2. He loves it. The guy across the street has one and loves it. If I had it to do all over, I would go with the MVP v2.

I made a vow not to buy mod in November, but....come Dec. 1, I am buying an MVP v2.

 

[DKP#]

The MVP under an oscelloscope will have a flatter PWM (pulse width modulation) wave, suggesting it produces a "smoother" vape than most of the other Chinese-manufactured regulated mods. This has been compared to much more expensive mods like the Provari and DNA mods. The Vamo uses a cheaper processor with the typical "rattlesnake" 33.3 hz PWM signal. Not all will notice it, but many will.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...itaste-mvp-dont-vape-same-provari-dna20d.html

As someone that has some experience in electronics, I find this to make no sense. It's like saying a heater run off a D.C. battery gives a "smoother" heat than one run off of A.C. found in a house. Even the eye has difficulty detecting something at 33Hz

Don't mean to offend you Baditude, you give a lot good advice to beginners, including me, but the whole PWM vs steady Voltage seems to me to be a gimmick.

 

[Decimate]

I am new to anything other than a regular ego battery but I just got my MVP2 yesterday. I like it a lot, easy to setup and get it how you want, plus the extras like the puff counter, ohm checker and charging output are awesome.

 

[Baditude]

As I stated, not everyone can detect the difference between 33.3 hz and 800 hz PWM. Reading the above thread proves that many can. Some who CAN detect the difference actually prefer the 33.3 hz rattlesnake PWM. Preference for one or the other will be as subjective as juice flavor preferences, clearos vs cartotanks, VV/VW etc.

Unless you have had the opportunity to compare between the two over a period of time, you'll just have to trust other's experiences. It's admittedly a minor difference, but it's THERE. I can tell enough of a difference between my Provari's/MVP vs my Ovale V8 and Smoktech VV Gripper that the last two are collecting dust on a shelf. The Provari's and MVP get all the action because they are able to create that "smoother" vape experience that I prefer.

My first regulated mod was a standard size Provari. Love it, but I found it to sometimes be too long/large to be a pocket-friendly out-of-the-house mod. I decided to get a pocket-friendly Smoktech VV Gripper for on-the-go vaping. Vape wasn't as satisfying as the Provari, I ended up grabbing it instead of the Gripper. Then tried a Ovale V8. Again, the vape was not as satisfying. I REALLY wanted to like these mods, but they weren't as satisfying as the Provari's vape. I ended up gifting myself with a Mini Provari for my 1 yr anniversary, and now all is well.

A few months later, I noticed when visiting my local B&M that a LOT of customers and many of the sales staff were using MVP's. Not being familiar with them, I wondered why they seemed to be so popular. Then I won an MVP in a free raffle giveway at this B&M. What a great smooth vape!! I wondered how this could be so? After all, this was a Chinese-made mod, too. After reading the above thread about PWM and learning that the MVP has a similar PWM cycle as a Provari, I learned why.

Here's another: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provari/381232-provari-oscope-vs-vamo.html

 

[toddrhodes]

As someone that has some experience in electronics, I find this to make no sense. It's like saying a heater run off a D.C. battery gives a "smoother" heat than one run off of A.C. found in a house. Even the eye has difficulty detecting something at 33Hz

Don't mean to offend you Baditude, you give a lot good advice to beginners, including me, but the whole PWM vs steady Voltage seems to me to be a gimmick.

Gimmick or not, it really bothers some people. Heck, I was using my Vamo on an old clearo I had in my wife's car and the sound was driving her nuts. She made me put it away, it was like nails on a chalkboard to her. I also have an MVP V2 and it works very well and is very convenient. Both are getting replaced with a ProVari Mini in a few days anyway but if I were leaning one way or the other, I'd go with the MVP V2. I suspected mine was giving out some odd flavor at one point but that is long gone and likely due to a dying iClear clearo.

 

[Daryl Glen]

Not to throw something else into the mix, because the OP said either a vamo or an mvp.....but I would suggest that a Tesla be considered as opposed to the vamo.
I own both a Vamo and a Tesla, and the Tesla is FAR better in build quality than a Vamo.

 

[DorsaiMaster]

I have the MVP V2 as well as a Vamo V2 and a Zmax V3. I find that I am using the MVP more than either of the others. Mostly just pure convenience and longevity, although I am keeping the Zmax at hand as a backup. You would be well served by looking at the MVP

 

[voltaire64]

Some MVP's have had issues with connecting with various juice attachments, which can usually be corrected by making an adjustment of the center pin height.

How do you make that adjustment to the center pin? I'm assuming it's the center pin on the device. I had this problem right out of the box with the iclear 30. Have to move the ring around just right to make a connection.

 

[Baditude]

How do you make that adjustment to the center pin? I'm assuming it's the center pin on the device. I had this problem right out of the box with the iclear 30. Have to move the ring around just right to make a connection.

The connector well is rather deep on the MVP. If you have fine enough needle nosed pliers or tweezers just pull the center pin up slightly. Some people use a jeweler's screwdriver to gently pry it up. I've also read where people have sanded/ground down the outer ring connector housing, not wanting to mess with the center pin.

 

[Amberina]

Both are considered good beginner regulated mods.

The MVP is a better constructed device that should prove to be more durable than the Vamo. The Vamo has had a history of the top connector threads wearing out in as little as 3 months use and having insulator issues. It is not as pocket-friendly as the MVP. The finish on some has worn away to reveal the bare metal beneath.

Some MVP's have had issues with connecting with various juice attachments, which can usually be corrected by making an adjustment of the center pin height. Getting 2 - 3 days on a charge is a huge benefit; you can also use it as a passthru. No need to purchase multiple batteries and a charger like you would with the Vamo.

The MVP under an oscelloscope will have a flatter PWM (pulse width modulation) wave, suggesting it produces a "smoother" vape than most of the other Chinese-manufactured regulated mods. This has been compared to much more expensive mods like the Provari and DNA mods. The Vamo uses a cheaper processor with the typical "rattlesnake" 33.3 hz PWM signal. Not all will notice it, but many will.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...itaste-mvp-dont-vape-same-provari-dna20d.html

I own both two Provari's and an MVP, and I can attest to the smoother vape that these provide over other variable voltage mods that I own.

If it was me, the MVP is a no-brainer. The only downside that I see with the MVP is its non-replaceable built-in battery, which should last at least 2 - 3 years. Considering most Chinese made mods will never see their second birthday still alive and working, this difference between a Vamo and an MVP isn't much of a factor considering they are so similar in price.

I agree completely. I also own one and I love it. I have had some issues with the center pin also but it is an incredibly easy fix. I just take a pair of tweezers and gently lift the center pin (sometimes I don't even see it move- the adjustment is so small) and it works perfectly. I just love the fact that I go AT LEAST 2-3 days between charging and I vape a lot. I have never had the battery run out on me.
Another interesting feature that the MVP has is that it can also be used as a charger for your cell phone and iPad/phone/pod. This could be used in an emergency if you loose power at home or you are stuck somewhere without a charger.

I have also bought the MVP 2 for a couple of friends. They also love it.

If you do want to purchase the MVP check out 101vape. They have it for $39. You can't beat that price!

Good luck!!

 

[Pinggolfer]

The consensus seems to favor the MVP 2. I don't own a Vamo but do own a MVP 2 and it's sister the VV-3 both made by Innokin. I enjoy both very much, but the MVP sure does last a long time on a single charge. I have heard there are 3 manufactures all who make the Vamo. To me buying a Vamo maybe a crap shoot. I trust Innokin as they have their own web site and they are open to suggestions on improving their products.

I have two MVP 2's and the later one which is blue needs less pressure to fire then the black one I have. I known there were complaints about the hard push to fire it, so maybe Innokin made a change. I bought both of mine from Vape 101 who is selling them them for only $39.99. I feel it's a bargain to have all the features for a low price.

 

[BDavid]

Awesome advice! After reading everything most of you have had to say and the fact that I was already leaning towards the MVP I think I'm gonna go ahead and buy it. Does anybody know somewhere that I could buy an MVP 2 and a Pro Tank 2 from the same vendor to avoid to separate shipping times and shipping charges.

 

[Pinggolfer]

Awesome advice! After reading everything most of you have had to say and the fact that I was already leaning towards the MVP I think I'm gonna go ahead and buy it. Does anybody know somewhere that I could buy an MVP 2 and a Pro Tank 2 from the same vendor to avoid to separate shipping times and shipping charges.

Yes, Vape 101 has both. Innokin iTaste MVP V2.0 - 101 Vape They also have Protank coils for $4.99 for a five pack. Fast shipping and great customer service.

 

[Pinggolfer]

I agree completely. I also own one and I love it. I have had some issues with the center pin also but it is an incredibly easy fix. I just take a pair of tweezers and gently lift the center pin (sometimes I don't even see it move- the adjustment is so small) and it works perfectly. I just love the fact that I go AT LEAST 2-3 days between charging and I vape a lot. I have never had the battery run out on me.
Another interesting feature that the MVP has is that it can also be used as a charger for your cell phone and iPad/phone/pod. This could be used in an emergency if you loose power at home or you are stuck somewhere without a charger.

I have also bought the MVP 2 for a couple of friends. They also love it.

If you do want to purchase the MVP check out 101vape. They have it for $39. You can't beat that price!

Good luck!!

I actually bought 4 from Vape 101 2 for me and 2 for Christmas gifts.