MVP Owners Group-into the next generation

[jandry]

I spent many a day wrapped up in a space suit trying to avoid
the dangers of Silicosis from sandblasting (silica is evil)
then when this vaping journey started and I learned I was
wicking from “SILICA” WHAT ! ?
I couldn’t believe it and still can’t get my mind around it...


- http://image.superchevy.com/f/8927782+w640+h426+q80+re0+cr1+ar0+st0/0409cr_blast_09_z.jpg
- http://images.wisegeek.com/sandblasting-while-wearing-protective-clothing.jpg

sand, but not silica sand
- http://dream2riches.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/04.jpg

I personally would trust vaping off Rayon more than vaping Silica, if I had to choose. I am the most comfortable with cotton (which still tastes better than silica).

I have considered trying something I havent heard of yet. How about rolling a fairly fine rayon wick, surrounding it with cotton, then rolling the cotton over the Rayon? With this setup, the rayon would quickly wick juice, and the cotton would slowly suck the excess off the silica. Also, since the rayon isnt touching the coil, you dont have to worry about what fumes rayon gives off if it burns. The cotton would stay better fed. On the other hand, any processing chemicals used in the Rayon process would still be absorbed by the juice and vaped later on.

It would be sort of like ghetto readywick

 

[jandry]

Well after some tinkering to the I30 last night i got it to hit much easier with less effort , no leaks either . I'm very surprised actually , i thought it was a 50/50 gamble.

I drilled out the tip to make it a larger bore , then i took the rubber top cap off and snipped the nipple off ( sounds scary but harmless actually) then i enlarged that hole . It's now a much easier draw and vapor production is unreal , i love it.

Drilled out which tip- the drip tip? The part at the bottom where it screws into the MVP? I think I follow you on the coil mods.

The iclear 30 produces great flavor and cloud for me, but I like light draws and it is just way too tight a draw.

Also, ill have to see if I can rewick it with rayon or cotton since its silica

 

[herb]

My mvp is on it's way out. Battery is lasting less than a day... Sad... Got it in march and it had a, couple Weeks off until my gf started using it (i still charged it every 5 days or so, to keep the battery active.. Just topping it off.

Oh well...

Via a possessed phone thats autocorrect is just silly

Man that really sucks but to be honest i am not really surprised , you have said on numerous occasions that you run ohm's considerably lower on the MVP going quite aways back.

Not following a charging routine to increase cycle life and running builds at or below 1 ohm i guess it's to be expected out of a device not really designed to do that .

Hey, you got a free Reo , your in good shape lol, i would recommend a DNA 30 type device or mechanical since you love drippers and low ohm builds.

 

[PaulBHC]

@jandry I did rewick one with rayon and it worked well until one of the coils failed. I snipped the silica close to the coil so that I could remove it without too much distortion of the coils. Trim the new wick at an angle and leave about 1/4 inch sticking out.

 

[sando7]

Im trying this next wick job I do. Hopefully I get the ration of cotton to rayon right. The only downside to this is that you still need to replace the wick every 1-2 tanks I would imagine (since cotton doesnt last that long).

take about half the cotton you would normally use and a piece of cellu almost the same size just a bit smaller.....change it when it becomes funky, you can tell when the taste sorta changes a bit......keep your wick wet while vaping.......the nice thing is that it holds the jooze a bit longer and still wicks great; experiment w/it till ya find what you like.

 

[jandry]

@jandry I did rewick one with rayon and it worked well until one of the coils failed. I snipped the silica close to the coil so that I could remove it without too much distortion of the coils. Trim the new wick at an angle and leave about 1/4 inch sticking out.

I pulled a coil apart to have a look (since I never use it) and it makes sense now. Im going to wrap new 32 guage coils with rayon wicks and do the modifications listed above. Itll be cool if this iclear becomes a solid performer

 

[Midniteoyl]

I personally would trust vaping off Rayon more than vaping Silica, if I had to choose. I am the most comfortable with cotton (which still tastes better than silica).

I have considered trying something I havent heard of yet. How about rolling a fairly fine rayon wick, surrounding it with cotton, then rolling the cotton over the Rayon? With this setup, the rayon would quickly wick juice, and the cotton would slowly suck the excess off the silica. Also, since the rayon isnt touching the coil, you dont have to worry about what fumes rayon gives off if it burns. The cotton would stay better fed. On the other hand, any processing chemicals used in the Rayon process would still be absorbed by the juice and vaped later on.

It would be sort of like ghetto readywick

Hahaha... I your case, man, I would just go with KGD type cotton and call it good

 

[sando7]

you have to drip every 30 seconds with the KGD or Japanese organic...in a tank it would pro be good tho

 

[PaulBHC]

Good luck getting the grommet back into the bottom. Maybe mine was cooked to hardness but it was tough. I used the fiber sleeve from inside an Aspire BDC to keep the ground lead touching the wall.

 

[jandry]

you have to drip every 30 seconds with the KGD or Japanese organic...in a tank it would pro be good tho

Im afraid im going to have to ban all speech regarding drippers in this here thread

My clearos work good enough... my clearos work good enough... my clearos work good enough...

 

[Mikepresjr]

Once I snagged my rDNA I gave my MVP to my mom, she loves it. Miles and away better than that iTaste CLK she was using. Euch.

 

[herb]

that's a great illustration posted by Midniteoyl........ (for RDA's) - i just fluff out a small piece of cotton till it's almost see-thru, then take a small strip of Cellu and twist them together (lightly) and wick........ been trying a different method of wicking by just twisting one end of the material just enough to thread the coils and leaving the other (long) end loose and totally fluffed out, then tuck trying to keep as much fluff as possible.....been working pretty good.

the taste of Silica wick is horrible to me and i have tried to like it, but it's not for me!

I just stick to one wick type or the other , i see no real benefit to mix but i'll try it . I have always just rolled one end to get it through the coil and left the rest as straight and unrolled .

I wick my Magma by threading a big (U) through the one large diameter coil on one side and both ends get tucked down deep into it's well and it's kick a_ _ . I saturate the wick and fill the well up a bit and i can vape without refilling a good long while .

Unfortunately the Magma usually leaks when people drip into it but if you take the top off and saturate it never leaks . Most that are very familiar with it say it's not a good choice for dripping directly into it, because leakage occurs, but it's unbeatable if you fill it the other way.

Drilled out which tip- the drip tip? The part at the bottom where it screws into the MVP? I think I follow you on the coil mods.

The iclear 30 produces great flavor and cloud for me, but I like light draws and it is just way too tight a draw.

Also, ill have to see if I can rewick it with rayon or cotton since its silica

Yup, drilled out the very narrow tip ( it's not a drip tip per say ) like in the real definition sense since it's screwed down . Just drilling out the tip doesn't do anything , you got to enlarge the hole in the rubber top cap on the head .

 

[sando7]

that's alot of work just to fill the Magma, i'd rather stick to the way i do it like i described to ya by wrapping a napkin around the air-holes until it absorbs (about 30 sec) and done.....i use to mix cotton with silica and eko wool, i like experimenting that's how discoveries are made.


Tip of the Day, hehe
a pencil eraser is an awesome tool to have in your vape-box, used to clean all your contacts; 510 pin, battery contacts and even the contact area's on your battery......will remove all discoloration and film and leave your contacts looking brand new, so when your atty just ain't hitting rite try this.

 

[herb]

@jandry I did rewick one with rayon and it worked well until one of the coils failed. I snipped the silica close to the coil so that I could remove it without too much distortion of the coils. Trim the new wick at an angle and leave about 1/4 inch sticking out.

I never thought about re wicking an I30 with rayon , great idea , thanks . Rayon seems to last forever and it retains it's color and shows very very little wear , it's perfect for that application (well i hope ).


The latest craze i'm reading about is Ramie , some insist it blows Rayon away for taste , it never ends.

 

[PaulBHC]

OF course you have to wave the magic wand to keep the wick in contact with the liquid but ya do watcha gotta do.

 

[Susaz]

Ping pong balls are made from celluloid, a flammable plastic made from camphor and nitrocellulose. This is not the same as Rayon, as the processes are different.

That's exactly what I mean. The process changes the product entirely. Both are made of cellulose though...

I had forgotten sandblasting, and yes, it's a difficult issue. But we're not forcing sand at top speeds here, we're having a wick. Boatbuilders use masks but to protect themselves from the gelcoat fumes, not the fiberglass. In late years woven fiberglass has proven to be safe to handle and be around. I'm more concerned with pesticides in cotton than with whatever tiny amount of silica that can pull out from the head. HEY! I've got two stents, I have more important things to worry about.

 

[herb]

that's alot of work just to fill the Magma, i'd rather stick to the way i do it like i described to ya by wrapping a napkin around the air-holes until it absorbs (about 30 sec) and done.....i use to mix cotton with silica and eko wool, i like experimenting that's how discoveries are made.


Tip of the Day, hehe
a pencil eraser is an awesome tool to have in your vape-box, used to clean all your contacts; 510 pin, battery contacts and even the contact area's on your battery......will remove all discoloration and film and leave your contacts looking brand new.

It doesn't get much easier than having a single 1/8 size coil, pulling a chunk of Rayon through it so both sides of the coil have about an inch and a half extra on each side , then tucking both ends into the well and filling .

I read that if you fill it right, it won't leak and i didn't believe it , well i have had it laying on it's side all night on my bed and no leakage , amazing.

Of course if you add too much juice it's leaking but it takes practice to get it so it wont leak

 

[Susaz]

My mvp is on it's way out. Battery is lasting less than a day... Sad... Got it in march and it had a, couple Weeks off until my gf started using it (i still charged it every 5 days or so, to keep the battery active.. Just topping it off.

Oh well...

Via a possessed phone thats autocorrect is just silly

It's happening to me too. Double coils are the main culprits followed by the volt guzzling Nautilus mini (needs always 5 volts for a decent vape!). You can still vape it plugged in, won't affect performance too much, but if you hit it too often it won't charge enough.

 

[sando7]

herb mine only leaks when filling and i use the napkin........i always lay mine down with the airholes to each side never a prob

 

[pufZeppelin]

Well after some tinkering to the I30 last night i got it to hit much easier with less effort , no leaks either . I'm very surprised actually , i thought it was a 50/50 gamble.

I drilled out the tip to make it a larger bore , then i took the rubber top cap off and snipped the nipple off ( sounds scary but harmless actually) then i enlarged that hole . It's now a much easier draw and vapor production is unreal , i love it.

On another note , after really looking at the MT3s copies i bought from FT, i finally did notice the regular Pro Tank head's don't quite screw as far into them as do the head's with the slightly smaller lip.

Shockingly it seems they do not have to as the regular PT head's screw down tight and work without leaking , they just don't screw in as far , odd.

Yup, drilled out the very narrow tip ( it's not a drip tip per say ) like in the real definition sense since it's screwed down .
Just drilling out the tip doesn't do anything , you got to enlarge the hole in the rubber top cap on the head .

On another note
that’s exactly how all mine fit
the base doesn’t snug up tight to the tank bottom
(less than fingernail gap)
the o-ring is more than enuff (never had a leak)

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same restriction with the i16
tried to drill out center hole in base, turns out it is
a ‘tin cup’, so I put it back in and forced a nail thru
to open hole just a bit – worked marvelous…
don’t have a i30 anymore, but it looks like in the pic,
the i30 base is set up the same way (might be worth a try)
- http://cdn3.volusion.com/ycqfs.gytss/v/vspfiles/photos/30915-4.jpg?1380583523