my advice is dont flaunt them..

[BadSeed]

I took mine to work today for the first time. I didn't vape at my desk, but just went to the loo to have a puff.
I did join the smokers outside too and showed and explained what it was. Links to here and pillbox's site have been provided to a few folk today.

 

[Grumpysanta]

I've been using my MINI e-cig ever since I got it, haven't had an analog cig since. I haven't made any special point about using it, generally it's in my hand already when I join the other analog smokers and some of them haven't really noticed that I was using anything different.


An interesting conversation occurred today with one of my friends, who doesn't smoke. It started when he commented as I walked past him 'A breath of fresh air'. As is usual amongst friends taking the pee of each other, but he later said that although the comment was in jest there was a reason behind it. We often hear about passive smoking but we don't hear about carrying the 'odour' with us. What he said was, although I always smoked outside, he could always smell the odour of smoking on me when I came back in, but he could not smell any odour on me after I used the e-cig


As I say, my friend does not smoke, but he likes the e-cig because of the lack of smell.


A positive result without even trying.

 

[Pangoo]

I tend to agree with cyberdude and edisme. I don't feel right flaunting it and vaping in a bus, train, restaurant, store etc. where everyone can see.

To me, it seems that doing so is rather rude and disrespectful, regardless of the fact that it might be legal and that it might not be harmful to others.
It's more a matter of common courtesy to me - although I think perhaps I might feel less guilty about doing it in a bar or club on a rainy night (haven't done this yet).

Maybe if I were in an empty section of a public place where nobody is around to see, I could sneak in a puff, but I would rather just step into a bathroom stall or go outside rather than risk offending anyone. I am never in such a desperate need of a hit that I can't hold off until I'm outside.

I vape in my office, but I have my own room in the back of the floor and nobody can see unless they actually step into it.

But then, I'm also bugged by people talking loudly on their cellphones
on the train, especially in the morning on the way to work. I don't need or want to hear the story of their lives. Same thing goes with people blasting their iPods where it's audible through their headphones to all.

 

[Jim Davis]

I deffo think you should all smoke it as much as possible in public.
Its the only way it will get into the public domain.

This could possibly be a mistake. The more e-cigs are exposed to the public, the more the anti-smoke whiners will notice. I've already heard questions about "second hand nicotine vapor". And the more people oppose them, the more public places will ban them, if only for being a nuisance.

Remember, we're the "bad" people, and most of the anti's will complain about anything. Unfair, but true.

 

[OutWest]

. . . But then, I'm also bugged by people talking loudly on their cellphones on the train, especially in the morning on the way to work. I don't need or want to hear the story of their lives. Same thing goes with people blasting their iPods where it's audible through their headphones to all.

For those that have their cell convos right by me, I've been known to act as though theyre talking to me, rather than on their phone, and reply to what they say. That usually gets 'em to quiet down or go somewhere else with their convo.

As for the vaping in public thing, I'm getting bolder but am still fairly discreet when indoors.

 

[skullsoup432]

I was in Wal Mart and this loud, obnoxious blow hard of a woman was on her cell asking her daughter about what Valentines cards to get. Harry Potter or Twilight. This went on about 5 minutes, the woman being one of those who wanted people to hear her witty and knowledgeable advice to her kid. I finally picked up a box of Potters, looked her in the eye, and tossed them in her cart. As I walked away, I heard other customers giggling. I don't want to be confrontational or a jerk, but she was so rude.

That goes for public vaping. I read a post of someone who was vaping in line at a fast food type place. I think this is wrong. Not only disrespectful, but it is like saying "I can't go more than a few minutes without a hit. I really don't care where I am, I'm gonna vape." Being discreet and laying low will serve all vapers better, at least till it is understood and accepted. Just because it is not illegal doesn't mean I will do it anywhere I want. Then too, maybe I'm full of BS.

 

[MonkeyMonk]

I was in Wal Mart and this loud, obnoxious blow hard of a woman was on her cell asking her daughter about what Valentines cards to get. Harry Potter or Twilight. This went on about 5 minutes, the woman being one of those who wanted people to hear her witty and knowledgeable advice to her kid. I finally picked up a box of Potters, looked her in the eye, and tossed them in her cart. As I walked away, I heard other customers giggling. I don't want to be confrontational or a jerk, but she was so rude.

That goes for public vaping. I read a post of someone who was vaping in line at a fast food type place. I think this is wrong. Not only disrespectful, but it is like saying "I can't go more than a few minutes without a hit. I really don't care where I am, I'm gonna vape." Being discreet and laying low will serve all vapers better, at least till it is understood and accepted. Just because it is not illegal doesn't mean I will do it anywhere I want. Then too, maybe I'm full of BS.

Paragraph 1 : I love it!!!
Paragraph 2: Agreed, common sense, respect and courtesy will be our best allie.

 

[QueenInNC]

I was in Wal Mart and this loud, obnoxious blow hard of a woman was on her cell asking her daughter about what Valentines cards to get. Harry Potter or Twilight. This went on about 5 minutes, the woman being one of those who wanted people to hear her witty and knowledgeable advice to her kid. I finally picked up a box of Potters, looked her in the eye, and tossed them in her cart. As I walked away, I heard other customers giggling. I don't want to be confrontational or a jerk, but she was so rude.

That goes for public vaping. I read a post of someone who was vaping in line at a fast food type place. I think this is wrong. Not only disrespectful, but it is like saying "I can't go more than a few minutes without a hit. I really don't care where I am, I'm gonna vape." Being discreet and laying low will serve all vapers better, at least till it is understood and accepted. Just because it is not illegal doesn't mean I will do it anywhere I want. Then too, maybe I'm full of BS.

I think that some people want the questions and comments about the personal vaporizer. I for one, do not. I will take a quick hit here and there while in the mall if I am there for a while. But to take it in someplace that I will only be for a few minutes doesn't seem necessary. I do not mind sharing what the e cig is about at all, but sometimes it just slows me down. Just like at a basketball game Monday night. I was very discrete. Someone here asked me why I covered the LED and it is because I simply didn't want to spend the rest of the game explaining what I was doing. In the event that someone saw me, I would have no problem explanining, but I try not to draw attention to myself. I just want to enjoy my vape

That's pretty funny about the Valentine's cards!! lol

 

[nikky]

I too agree that, just because we don't produce that hated smoke anymore, this doesn't mean we can use our e-cigs just about everywhere. we're still branded as smokers and reactions are mixed. some may say "good job", others may call us "nic junkies".

just remember that before e-cigs we had to endure a movie, a show, a flight, a bus trip without smoking. now that we smoke safer, does it mean that our will has gone down the drain? what about those folks quitting cigs the cold turkey way? are they superheroes or something?

all things have their place and time. so must the e-cig imho.

 

[Jim Davis]

I have a bit of a different situation. I travel, and do service work in the printing & packaging industry. I'm in a different printing or food packing plant every week. I keep my vaping on a very low profile. My customers might approve, and they might not, and they have the right to ban e-cigs in their own businesses, if they do not approve.

So I just go off someplace alone, and do my thing. No one knows any better, and I get my nicotine fix. If the plant has a smoking area, I go there. That's when the questions and discussions start. It can work both ways. I'm sitting in a non-smoking hotel room right now. The room smells like vanilla and the hotel staff is none the wiser.

 

[Cloud9Smoking.com]

I samoke them in public resteraunt, but cover the light, and hold breath until vapor doesn't come out- people mostly just think I'm chewing on a pen- but I do let the occassional vapor out by mistake and always 'feel guilty' liek I've doen somethign naughty lol.

Noone has ever asked about it, but if htey do I just plan to tell them it's a nicotine delivery system that produces absolutely no harmful effects in it's water vapor and just leave it at that mostly. maybe hand them a card that I got from SmartFixx that explains them a bit

I also don't recommend exposing the ciggs too much as resteraunts and bars do have the right to ban them because others might htink they are real and think they can light up real cigarettes. It would take a massive campaign to educate hte public before resteraunts and bars felt comfortable neough to allow them I think, and I don't see a campaign liek htis happning anytime soon- tilkl then I think we gotta be discrete. I think if we try to push too soon, we won't have enough support behind us to fight the rabid anti-everythingers who will cry bloody murder at hte sight of the vapor and will cause mass hysteria abotu hte product and get the government involved who will probably act ot ban them because not much is known abotu hte dangers, if any, of htem just yet.

Good point about restaurants asking you not to use them. I was sitting in a restaurant in New York and the Manager came over to ask me to stop smoking. Apparently the table next to me had complained. I showed him what it was and he said it was fine. I smoke my e-cig everywhere and when people call me on it, I just tell them "It's not a cigarette". They usually slink off in embarassmnt.

The other day I was puffing on my e-cig at the post office. There was a line to the door. Suddenly, one of the clerks yells "You can't smoke in here" I just said "It's not a cigarette", showed it to her and kept on puffing. That was the end of it. People just need to get used to seeing it around. Then they will stop getting all worked up about it. If we keep hiding it, this will never be the case.

 

[Will0]

I agree with the whole non flaunting thing. I try to be discreet.

At a venue the other night I was covering it with my hand with just the cartridge sticking out and exhaling through the nose. But there was this one bouncer or whatever who likes his job way too much, came over and tried to throw me out.

I showed it to him and told him I can legally smoke it inside. They guy woudnt shut up so I just said, I will put it away if you leave me alone. I hate chumps like that in venues. There are other places in this city where people go ahead and smoke a joint in the front row of venues, but some places staff the venues with real tools some times.

 

[PTJD]

Darn you all bring up some memories! Where did Karenwest,Naz,Kit,Devilfish,Betty all go?
They sure were early adopters of the PV. Miss them all.

 

[Doctor Girlfriend]

I'm a new convert, and I love it! I work at a convenience store, and it's awesome to not have to wait for customers to leave the store so I can sneak out to smoke. There was NOTHING more irritating than racing out for a cigarette and having to stub it out after one drag because people pulled up. I don't vape right at the register, but I do stand in the doorway of the backroom office and vape away in plain sight.

My boss is the one who told me about the Ncig, so he's 100% down with it, all of my coworkers are smokers, and really the only reaction I've ever gotten from anyone is from the customers asking me how it works, where I got it, and can I give them the web address.

 

[Caesarea]

Just been on a business trip to the UK. In EMA airport found the chimpanzee cage outdoors where smokers have to go - no seats, ugliest damn cage I ever saw. Had enquiries from four different people re e-cig. Was glad I went there, just for that.

However going to the loo to vape is soooooo easy. No NEED to confront anyone. Unbelievable, but no-one in the crowded loos notices a thing!

And in the room I stayed in on the uni campus the smoke alarm I vaped under for hours never detected anything either. (My work involves a lot of writing and I write best with pen in one hand and vape pen in the other, or lanyarded penstyle in teeth and 2 hands to type.)

There was a £150 fine (for "fumigation"!) if you set off the smoke alarm. I enjoyed having my wallet safe and also my conscience at peace, leaving the room clean of any ash, ... ends, or stink.

At least 12 fellow conference members were smoking outside the entrance whenever they could, braving the cold and dark during the evenings and leaving their calling card ... ends in the flower beds. Poor souls.

When I have travelled more often like this, I guess the automatic defensive worry will disappear and I'll take the new freedoms for granted, but right now I am amazed by them. Flaunting would not be a good idea or justifiable.

After all there are loos most everywhere!!! And we need to tell our smoker friends in their chimpanzee cages.

So flaunt gently OK to yr fellow nicotineers, but elsewhere discretion.

 

[StudioKraft]

As my "starter kit" has yet to arrive, I haven't started to vape yet, but have no intention of "flaunting" it when I do.

The way I see it, there is a bunch of smug people in power who are convinced that they know what is best for everyone, and that they should be the ones to enforce their rules on everyone else. They have enacted their smoking bans on private property regardless of the will of the property owner, and continue to seek out even more restrictions on where tobacco can be used.

By flaunting an e-cigarette, these folks will take it as a challenge to their authority and power (Lautenberg), and will fight tooth and nail to outlaw them regardless of any pesky facts, logic or reason to the contrary.

I'll be quite happy to keep the whole thing to myself.

 

[Jim Davis]

For e-cig users, it should be "our little secret" I tell the smokers, and keep a low profile with the rest. I'm vaping in my non-smoking hotel room as I write this.

Remember - even though the may be legal in certain areas, the owner of the area has the right to ban them. Building owners may tend to ban them if they don't understand them. It's just as well that they don't know.

Now if we could get the government to stop running our lives.

 

[Jim Davis]

I'm a new convert, and I love it! I work at a convenience store, and it's awesome to not have to wait for customers to leave the store so I can sneak out to smoke. There was NOTHING more irritating than racing out for a cigarette and having to stub it out after one drag because people pulled up. I don't vape right at the register, but I do stand in the doorway of the backroom office and vape away in plain sight.

My boss is the one who told me about the Ncig, so he's 100% down with it, all of my coworkers are smokers, and really the only reaction I've ever gotten from anyone is from the customers asking me how it works, where I got it, and can I give them the web address.

Well Damn Doc!!! Tell yer boss to start selling them.

 

[Doctor Girlfriend]

Well Damn Doc!!! Tell yer boss to start selling them.

He's actually trying to. He has to run it past corporate since we are a chain, but he's fighting for it. Also, in the past few days two of our coworkers have switched. It's awesome.

 

[Dal1970]

It's time the bosses learnt that if you can use it at your desk, then you are more productive. Wjere I work, the people upstairs have to get up, come down, go outside have 1 or 2 fags, then go back up.
Time lost is around 15 minutes. Some go every hour or so.
If they could use the e-cig then they would stay at their desks and get far more work done.

Still, it may sink in one day!!

Dal