Well that's the nice thing about it. With other brands you just never know and there's one vendor that GOT the last penny from me because I fell for their speel about this and that 3 times and three times I GOT garbage for my money. With Ikenvape I know the quality is there just because he sells it. His reputation for making quality products, Oh and standing behind them is impeccableI think he was saying the ones from Ikenvape are no different than the ones from Electronistix (or whatever the vendor is); I believe he said he wouldn't be surprised if they were made by the same manufacturer. However, I think (don't know why or where I "heard" it), Electronistix had Issac design their "new" 510 Boge cartomizers; could be a I am blowing smoke out my .... and I don't know what I'm talking about. Irrespective, I'm sticking with my Fusions and my boy, Issac!
Juanita
Oh and the vendor that GOT me those 3 times, (the only 3 times I bought from them}, gave me excuses. That's all I GOT for the money they GOT from me. Thank you no, I'll stick with old tried and true Ikenvape..
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