my boss thinks they should be banned

[Duckbitesman]

Yeah, a bloodhound with a chainsaw and a hockey mask, right?

I was a very nice husband i would get home from work at 11pm and walk with her to the 7-11 down the street and around the neighborhood cause she wanted that baby out lol

but yeah some times im surprised I MADE it and i wasn't the one pregnant

 

[Dram]

now i don't agree with using one of these in a place like a restaurant. common sense dictates if you want a puff, you should at least do it in a toilet stall in the bathroom, or step outside. no need to feel bad about it.

I work in a restaurant/bar and my boss loves me for giving up the analogs and telling others about my vaping! We do allow vaping in our establishment and it has caused no problems. As a worker I go to the back room or on a quick bathroom break take a few puffs. Since I have been vaping 5 co-workers have decided to switch over as well. My boss says since the smoke breaks have ended work time is up and maybe he should pay me extra for my help. LOL

 

[Disconnect]

I knew I'd get more done in a day without being gone 5-10 every 60-90 but I didn't realize how much of my tasking was structured around that break. Turns out I got less done in the 15-20 before a break because I was aiming for a stopping point. Now I can just power through (with 'breaks' timed to the task rather than the other way around. And a break is less disruptive when I just switch monitors or grab my tablet to hit ECF than it was to go downstairs..)

The bad news is, smoke breaks were pretty much the only time I saw my boss. That is starting to prove annoying, I may have to start stalking his breaks.

 

[junkman]

That would actually be incorrect.

While there is very little water in an eCigarette or in the liquid... Exhaled vape is mainly water vapor.
That's how it works, the VG and PG "steal" water from our bodies... that's why Vaping dehydrates you...

Otherwise... when you fired your PV, there would be huge plumes of vapor, whether you inhaled it or not.

Actually, there are huge plumes of vapor. If you ever used a genesis style device you would see. Or just look at all the videos.

Based on my experience it is mostly not water.

Do this experiment - blow vapor in a glass and turn it upside down. That vapor will remain a very long time. Afterwords there is some residue. Not water.

Next allow steam (water vapor) in a glass and do the same thing. It will quickly condense and the result will be water droplets.

 

[preq2003]

Actually, there are huge plumes of vapor. If you ever used a genesis style device you would see. Or just look at all the videos.

Based on my experience it is mostly not water.

Do this experiment - blow vapor in a glass and turn it upside down. That vapor will remain a very long time. Afterwords there is some residue. Not water.

Next allow steam (water vapor) in a glass and do the same thing. It will quickly condense and the result will be water droplets.

Agreed, its actually not totally water vapour, the PG/VG creates the vapour when burned + some water vapour.PG is a hydrophilic substances,which adsorb water molecule,thats why youll fell dryness at the back of your throat.

 

[vernhall]

As for vaping in public places where normal cigarettes are not allowed - that is just rude. You are giving people the perception that you are smoking, this violates social rules. Don't be a jerk about it.

That's the key right there -- don't be a jerk about it! I don't vape when we're out to dinner or lunch just for that reason. I know I could, but it's just not polite to do so...

 

[vernhall]

Another thing, though, is a lot of us are missing a chance to convert folk. I've converted several of the 'what's that you've got there?' folk and have never had any problem with anyone about my vaping. Of course I don't vape in restaurants or stores or places like that -- just doesn't make sense to invite trouble. As with a lot of things -- just because you 'can' do it doesn't mean you 'should' do it...

 

[DC2]

I wouldn't want to sit next to someone spitting chewing tobacco into a cup at a restaurant.

Why? Does it smell bad or something?

 

[Jman8]

Another thing, though, is a lot of us are missing a chance to convert folk.

As with a lot of things -- just because you 'can' do it doesn't mean you 'should' do it...

I'm sorry, you were saying....

 

[Dram]

Got done with work yesterday, sat down at the bar waiting for my manager to count my drawer, puffing away on my e cig. Had 2 customers come up and ask me about it, one looking to make the switch and one thinking of getting one for his wife. I gladly informed them of how long I had been analog free and how easy it was to make the switch. Two more potential lives saved...

 

[PhreakySTS9]

Some people can just quit easily and think everybody else should too. In reality, smoking is one of the hardest habits in the world to kick. Look at a documentary. Some of the most hardcore addicts can quit their habits, but you will still see them smoking cigs if that says anything...

 

[Cambofog]

Yeah, Ive been an analog smoker for a few years. I switched to a blu. It is nice to be able to smoke indoors without the smell, or people giving me sideways eyeball stares, even in areas that allow smoking. Regardless of the legality, if your sitting in your local Applebees, it probably wouldnt be the best idea to start vaping with families and children around and such. Even with the advantages of e-cigs compared to analogs, people generally have a negative perspective of it

 

[pita1028]

here's a good one. one of my bosses (reformed smoker. (the worst kind)). saw me pulling on my vapor pen. told him i had switched from the analogs. his complaint- he was in a restaurant, and saw someone inhale at the table. so he thinks they should be banned because of that. i explained it's water vapor. didn't want to hear that. doesn't care that it represent a god send to thousands of lifetime smokers like myself. just another case of total ignorance that is running rampant about these vapor cigs. now i don't agree with using one of these in a place like a restaurant. common sense dictates if you want a puff, you should at least do it in a toilet stall in the bathroom, or step outside. no need to feel bad about it. this kind of behavior is what is going to delay these things going mainstream. just because it's not a analog, doesn't mean we have to ignore the wishes of others.

put dog poop on his desk.

 

[NJ Shlice]

I think eCigs will be banned from restaurants and such if they continue to catch on at this rate. You can't have everyone just puffing away at these things and blowing the smoke indoors.

 

[Disconnect]

If it is smoking, you have it turned up WAY too high!

 

[bstedh]

Get rid of the cigarette look alikes and it will reduce the amount of flack you get for vapping. Perception is 90% of peoples reality. Especially first impressions. I use box style and 18650 tubes and use a double inhale with slow exhale to avoid any visible vapor until the people around me become accustomed to what I am doing and they never second guess it. Another thing to avoid is calling it an e-cig. When asked I usually tell them it is a Glycerin and glycol vaporizer. They usually figure out it's an e-cig in the next 5 seconds but that first imprecision is changed and not associated with a cigarette. Then the education can begin without that bias clouding the issue.

The way you initially approach people with what you do will greatly affect how they perceive what you are doing no matter how much you explain it to them after the fact.

As an example, when I go into a new bar i will set my PV on the bar far enough in front of me that everyone can see it and let it sit there for at least 1/2 an hour. I may get a couple of questions about it at that point but usually not. Then I will occasionally take a toot with the double inhale and slow exhale producing no vapor. This is when people will usually start to ask questions. I will then take a more normal hit when demonstrating it to them. Within 1 hour to 1.5 hours I can sit and enjoy my PV at my pleasure and everyone around is impressed by it's novelty and a lot of the smokers that are constantly running out in the sub zero weather to smoke up quickly become interested in it. The entire time the word e-cigarette has never left my mouth and after correcting a couple of people around me that do, everyone is calling it a PV or Vaporizer and nobody even considers it's link to smoking.

 

[PLANofMAN]

Well.. I've been vaping now about a month and half and have been off the stinkies for 5 or 6 weeks now. However, my wife still considers it smoking and it's driving me crazy. One of our friends who I got onto vaping proudly proclaimed that she was smoke free for 5 days. My wife, proceeded to correct her that she's still smoking and she hasn't quit a thing. I think I just have a very stubborn wife who is an ex smoker, mostly because she's pregnant right now.

How the EU Kills Thousands Have her read this. It might not change her mind, but at least she wouldn't be ignorant any longer.

 

[jfalbanese]

glad this thread is still up and running. trying to start a revolution at work, and get everyone off the stinkers. screw the boss

 

[jfalbanese]

I'm not even sure if it's possible. Especially with the store bought models (lesser eCig items) around. A huge difference between smoking and vaping is that when not puffing on a vaporizer, there's no second hand stuff floating around. With vaping, the only chance of someone noticing a problem is if they happened to walk in the stream (not really a cloud) upon exhale. And even if they did that, I'm still curious how much of an issue that truly is. I mean if it is, then you'd think vapers, of all people, would be exposed to that second hand stuff and by now, there would be something noticeable going on with health of vapers.

I've also vaped in front of enough non-smokers, many of whom hate smoking, to realize, vapor pretty much presents a non-issue. I honestly can't remember a time where sitting in a room with non-smokers for say 6 hours (playing cards) and a non-smoking person gave any indication (non verbal or otherwise) that let me know that my exhaled vapor made them uncomfortable.

Vapor simply doesn't linger all that much. If it did, this conversation would be vastly different than the one where we muster up something to talk about as if we are causing some serious (even half serious) discomfort to those around us.

With all that said, I do still think all it will take to change things in this discussion is some independent study where 2nd hand vapor is linked to some serious health concern, like your genitals will shrivel up if you are around 2nd hand vapor long enough. Short of that, and I do think we do a disservice to not be vaping in many places right now, doing our best to educate along the way. Though, I'll note that I tend to be another one of those that is practices courteous public vaping, while often wondering why I'm so courteous, given what is actually involved.

i love going outside with the smokers during break. as smokers we taught ourselves to be aware of the wishes of people who don't smoke. vaping is not that different. it does not cost anything to ask "Do you mind if i vape?" courtesy can circumvent the issues of doing it in front of non smokers. either way i did not continue vaping so i could do it in places where smoking is prohibited. i vape because i do not want to be a filthy smoker anymore. that is my priority. i have no problem keeping it in places where smoking is permitted