I add my vg last and just pop the needle off of the syringe. If I use the syringe without the needle, I can still measure acurately and the vg is thick enough not to just run out the end.
my diy ejuice is horrible
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lulu,
I'm not sure about 'ejuicemeup' but if you are trying to get 12mg down to 6mg then you would probably do need to add 0 nic PG or VG. If 10MG is ok, then you should be alright if you add 20% flavor to your 12MG mix.
For example, if my calculations are right, 4ML of 12MG nic plus 1ML of no-nic flavoring would give you 5ML at 9.6MG nicotine.
You may want to go ahead and purchase some 0 nic PG and/or VG. It makes mixing easier at times.
I'm not sure about 'ejuicemeup' but if you are trying to get 12mg down to 6mg then you would probably do need to add 0 nic PG or VG. If 10MG is ok, then you should be alright if you add 20% flavor to your 12MG mix.
For example, if my calculations are right, 4ML of 12MG nic plus 1ML of no-nic flavoring would give you 5ML at 9.6MG nicotine.
You may want to go ahead and purchase some 0 nic PG and/or VG. It makes mixing easier at times.
Add my flavoring to my VG in the bottle, shake vigorously, then I throw that bottle in hot water to mend the flavoring to my VG quicker, then I add my VG Nic Base, shake again then let steep. No PG added in my mixes, but you can add your PG/VG/flavoring and do the same if you use PG. ;-)
I know I'm reviving an old thread BUT I'm getting quite discouraged with the DIY thing. Using ejuicemeup I have made several of what I hoped would be delicious juices and that is NOT happening. I understand that these things take time but I have one I made up on 12/9 that has remained undisturbed until today. It sucks! Just one flavor added....cheesecake. I would think that would be the simplest thing in the world to be successful with. I use 100% PG nic juice @ 36mg and cut it down to 10% for vaping. PG and VG are in different bottles. I use syringes for measuring. The recipe I followed calls for 20% flavoring, adding 4.17ml nicjuice, .92mlPG, 2.92ml VG and 2ml Cheesecase flavoring to make 10ml @ 10mg @ 80/20 PG/VG. I've also tried Smores, Peanut Butter Cup and one more that I threw out and they are all awful. Somebody please help a newbie mixer get out of this whirlpool of failure. Thanks.
I think it's the flavors you're chosing. Cheesecake alone isn't very good IMO. It needs something else, like a fruit generally at 60% cheesecake 40% fruit.
I've never been able to make Smores because Marshmallow is hard to get the flavor to come through. Peanut Butter Cup is another one that I don't like much and it gets really dry if not done right. I think you might be better off trying some flavors that are more simple to work with instead of recipes that others may like and are really that person's preference. I seldom like what others post because I like to make my mixes designed for my likes.
What flavoring company are you using? TFA and FA flavors are really hard to work with IMO and I've seldom made anything I consider good. Capella is a lot more forgiving and a single ingredient will make a nice juice.
I've never been able to make Smores because Marshmallow is hard to get the flavor to come through. Peanut Butter Cup is another one that I don't like much and it gets really dry if not done right. I think you might be better off trying some flavors that are more simple to work with instead of recipes that others may like and are really that person's preference. I seldom like what others post because I like to make my mixes designed for my likes.
What flavoring company are you using? TFA and FA flavors are really hard to work with IMO and I've seldom made anything I consider good. Capella is a lot more forgiving and a single ingredient will make a nice juice.
Even though you've had the same problems as I have......sorry it didn't work out for you either. Unfortunately most of the flavors I have are Flavor Apprentice and Lorann. I see I need to try Capella out 
Thanks so much for your reply.
Thanks so much for your reply.
Agree with GoodDog.
It's like you just started mountain climbing and you picked K2, Annapurn, and Nanga Parbat to test out yourself. If you can avoid trying for Everest, Cherry, then we may be able to help.
See if Capella is still having their 6-pack sale and grab some flavorings from there. They are very forgiving. I think their Coconut is fantastic and their Blueberry is one of the good ones, but they have lots of good flavorings. (Avoid chocolates, cheesecakes, and cherry flavorings for now.) Grab something with vanilla in the title and try those.
To continue the analogy I started with, we are going to start on the Appalachian Trail and get some good miles behind you before you go big.
It's like you just started mountain climbing and you picked K2, Annapurn, and Nanga Parbat to test out yourself. If you can avoid trying for Everest, Cherry, then we may be able to help.
See if Capella is still having their 6-pack sale and grab some flavorings from there. They are very forgiving. I think their Coconut is fantastic and their Blueberry is one of the good ones, but they have lots of good flavorings. (Avoid chocolates, cheesecakes, and cherry flavorings for now.) Grab something with vanilla in the title and try those.
To continue the analogy I started with, we are going to start on the Appalachian Trail and get some good miles behind you before you go big.
Just because a few mixes didn't work out for me there are hundreds that did. It's more about personal preference and learning what each flavor tastes like on it's own first. I wasn't motivated to continue working on Smores or Peanut Butter Cup because I found so many others that I like more. You can come back to those as you learn about flavorings. I like Hoosiers analogy...makes a lot of sense.
Be sure to buy some Cotton Candy to add to your sweet mixes.
Be sure to buy some Cotton Candy to add to your sweet mixes.
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Yep.......I totally agree. Didn't mean to imply that you were unsuccessful just that starting DIY is, has been and remains, a PITA for me. I know all you guys who have been successful went through growing pains like I am and I hope that I meet with as much success as each of you has.
If you want a good pb cup try the one i posted in the recipe section . I agree PBcup is hard to get right and iv been through a few that werent up to par as well as a few other pbcup recipes that werent great .ALways dry and nutty with a watered down taste . The one i made tastes just like a real pb cup .Creamy and everything . You must follow it exactly though and im sure you will like it . Cheesecake is not very flavorful at all by itself but mixed with cirtain other flavoring can be amazing . Capellas cheesecake i mean . All the other cheesecakes i found disgusting like sour cheese . TPA and loranns flavors arent the greatest imo . You can work with some of them but its veryhard to get something amazing out of it . Capellas is a dream . Tons of rich flavors compared to the others and simple to work with . Its actually hard to make something thats bad .
I rarely ever use a standalone flavor . Almost All flavors are made for mixing imo minus maybe redhots . you will get better so dont get discouraged ,just follow all the good advise here . Not sure if you like strawberry shortcake but i also added a incredibly good strawberry shortcake recipe . Im only mentioning mine since i know for a fact they are really good and i havent tried a lot of other members recipes . I will only post mine if they are really good . I posted maybe 4 out of the tons of juices i made .
Your first step should be getting some capellas . You will quickly see how good of juices you can make .
I rarely ever use a standalone flavor . Almost All flavors are made for mixing imo minus maybe redhots . you will get better so dont get discouraged ,just follow all the good advise here . Not sure if you like strawberry shortcake but i also added a incredibly good strawberry shortcake recipe . Im only mentioning mine since i know for a fact they are really good and i havent tried a lot of other members recipes . I will only post mine if they are really good . I posted maybe 4 out of the tons of juices i made .
Your first step should be getting some capellas . You will quickly see how good of juices you can make .
You will...the only reason not to succeed is giving up. Capella flavors will give you some confidence. Once you mix each flavor and see how it tastes you can experiment with mixing a couple of the flavors together. Keep it simple at first and you'll be amazed how quickly it starts to come together. It's annoying that many flavors by TFA, LorAnn and some others sound delicious and are a disappointment when they don't turn out to be anything like the name... I always felt a little conned. One thing about Capella is that they won't release a flavor until it's perfected... not just to have a ton of different flavors. You may want to try each of the flavors you have now in PG/VG just to get a feeling for it.
The Capella finally arrived.......there were hoof prints in the front yard so I think given the amount of time it took and the overwhelming evidence of hoof prints, it came by Pony Express!! Anyhow if you guys are still willing to steer me in the right direction the attached is a combination that I have been playing with. The sweet strawberry alone is not bad but I thought possibly the Vanilla Cream would add another dimension. What do you think?
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Lulu, I just ran your figures for your bad cheesecake, and your numbers are off. By a lot, it seems.
Can't get a decent sized screenshot here? I know my copy is legible. So, I cut it down 75 percent, to see if this forum keeps it that way, but no. It still cuts it down so you can't read. What's the deal with that?
Can't get a decent sized screenshot here? I know my copy is legible. So, I cut it down 75 percent, to see if this forum keeps it that way, but no. It still cuts it down so you can't read. What's the deal with that?
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mgordon1100............I'm trying to do the same with the same results. Thanks for trying.
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I'm all ears...........this is a learning experience so feel free........please. In what way are the numbers off and what should they be? Thanks
For 10ml @ 10mg @ 80/20 PG/VG with 20 percent flavoring, this is what ejuicemeup says.
2.78 ml of nic pg (36mg base)
3.22 pg
2.00 vg
2.00 flavor
It's a shame you can't see my screenshot very well. You over shot the nic portion by 1.37 ml. That's a lot for 10 ml's of juice. The balance between the nic pg and plain pg was overshot by 1 ml, leaving you under a ml for the vg. That's going to change your juice a lot. How did you come up with your numbers?
Also, I'd like to add that 20 percent flavoring is a lot. When I first started, I thought I needed more flavor because it seemed to me that people like hints, while I want my juice to taste like candy. I've discovered recently that starting small is really the way to go. Maybe you do want 20%. I'm just giving you something to think about. Hoosier said it best, too much leaves you right back with too little. It's like when you get dowsed with freezing cold water. There's very little difference in feeling from when you get dowsed with scalding hot water.
2.78 ml of nic pg (36mg base)
3.22 pg
2.00 vg
2.00 flavor
It's a shame you can't see my screenshot very well. You over shot the nic portion by 1.37 ml. That's a lot for 10 ml's of juice. The balance between the nic pg and plain pg was overshot by 1 ml, leaving you under a ml for the vg. That's going to change your juice a lot. How did you come up with your numbers?
Also, I'd like to add that 20 percent flavoring is a lot. When I first started, I thought I needed more flavor because it seemed to me that people like hints, while I want my juice to taste like candy. I've discovered recently that starting small is really the way to go. Maybe you do want 20%. I'm just giving you something to think about. Hoosier said it best, too much leaves you right back with too little. It's like when you get dowsed with freezing cold water. There's very little difference in feeling from when you get dowsed with scalding hot water.
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What Mgordon said about being careful with flavours.
I know I am a bit extreme, because I tend to think that commercial juices are over-flavoured (the little I have tried of them I've mostly liked them better diluted to 50% or even less). I'm also almost exclusively interested in tobacco flavours, so that skews my perspective too.
But diving right in and flavouring to 20% without thoroughly testing the flavours one by one at different percentages, seems to me like a recipe for lots of vasted juice. Especially if you are following other people's recipes, and if those recipes are in drops. A drop can be anything between 0.01ml and 0.06ml.
One thing I did, and still do (heh, sounds like I've been doing this way longer than a month...), which I've found very helpful in learning about what I like and don't like is to play with commercial juices. Just small, casual, dilutions. How will this taste if I top up my carto with unflavoured? Or addition-dilutions: what if I re-fill my eGo tank with this very dilute mint?
Don't give up!
It is totally frustrating that proper mixing and instant satisfaction doesn't go hand in hand (difficult to test-vape at once, even more difficult to accurately test many variations in one sitting), but casual testing and tweaking can be done almost continually - it won't give you a recipe for the perfect juice, but it will give you the understanding of your own palate and how different ingredients work that will make it possible for you to make pretty good guesses at what type of recipes you will eventually like.
I know I am a bit extreme, because I tend to think that commercial juices are over-flavoured (the little I have tried of them I've mostly liked them better diluted to 50% or even less). I'm also almost exclusively interested in tobacco flavours, so that skews my perspective too.
But diving right in and flavouring to 20% without thoroughly testing the flavours one by one at different percentages, seems to me like a recipe for lots of vasted juice. Especially if you are following other people's recipes, and if those recipes are in drops. A drop can be anything between 0.01ml and 0.06ml.
One thing I did, and still do (heh, sounds like I've been doing this way longer than a month...), which I've found very helpful in learning about what I like and don't like is to play with commercial juices. Just small, casual, dilutions. How will this taste if I top up my carto with unflavoured? Or addition-dilutions: what if I re-fill my eGo tank with this very dilute mint?
Don't give up!
It is totally frustrating that proper mixing and instant satisfaction doesn't go hand in hand (difficult to test-vape at once, even more difficult to accurately test many variations in one sitting), but casual testing and tweaking can be done almost continually - it won't give you a recipe for the perfect juice, but it will give you the understanding of your own palate and how different ingredients work that will make it possible for you to make pretty good guesses at what type of recipes you will eventually like.
LULU try my Strawberry shortcake recipe .Its amazing . 15% sweet strawberry is tooo much in a mix imo . I usually top out at around 10% on anything in mixes .Also use a little lemon juice and some EM or sweetener
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