My first question - Increase e-liquid concentration

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Vlad Dinu

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I am a very heavy smoker. Before I can quit, I need eliquid with enough nicotine to compensate for the cigs I smoke.

Considering I dont have access to new eliquid and have 100 ml of 6 mg liquid.

Can someone point me to a link where I can change that to 50 ml of 12 mg (roughly).

I suppose doing that does not involve the most difficult chemistry known to man.

thanks.
 

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I am a very heavy smoker. Before I can quit, I need eliquid with enough nicotine to compensate for the cigs I smoke.

Considering I dont have access to new eliquid and have 100 ml of 6 mg liquid.

Can someone point me to a link where I can change that to 50 ml of 12 mg (roughly).

I suppose doing that does not involve the most difficult chemistry known to man.

thanks.

Just add 6ml of the 100mg of nic to your 100ml bottle of 6mg liquid and you have 12mg of 100ml of liquid.

You can break that into 2 separate bottles of 50ml of 12mg now.

But... if you didn't want to make the full bottle. Just pour 50ml out into a bottle and just make that bottle you just add 3mg nic to that. That would make 50ml of 12mg nic.
 
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With your smoking level, 12mg may not be sufficient. Most start out in the 18-24mg area.

For me, I started even higher because I wanted to have the confidence that I was getting sufficient nic. If the nic is to strong, my urge was less. If my nic was to week, I taped the mod to my mouth.

YMMV
 

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Vlad, if you don't have access to new e-liquid, I imagine you don't have access to the stronger types of nicotine solution either. I'm not aware of any commonly-used way to concentrate the nicotine in your existing solution. Depending on the carrier ratio, I guess you could try boiling it down, unless your liquid is high in VG. Here are the boiling points:

PG - Boiling point: 370.8°F (188.2°C)
Nicotine - Boiling point: 476.6 °F (247 °C)
VG - Boiling point: 554°F (290°C)

Obviously any flavoring in the mix will not survive this process, and I'd worry about how it might react. I'm also not too sure whether the nicotine would oxidize.
 
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With your smoking level, 12mg may not be sufficient. Most start out in the 18-24mg area.

For me, I started even higher because I wanted to have the confidence that I was getting sufficient nic. If the nic is to strong, my urge was less. If my nic was to week, I taped the mod to my mouth.

YMMV

Definitely 18 minimum and 24 mg more likely to be what keeps heavy smokers from suffering cravings . I actually ordered some juices when i first started with 36 mg but found they were not needed.


As far as determining if the nic is at the correct level , i found that out when i noticed i was laying on the floor sweating profusely and twitching which indicated to me i needed to make a slight adjustment and back off a hair.
 

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You could also drop the OHM rate to increase delivered dosage....... 6mg/ml can deliver as much or more of a dose as 12mg/ml. When vaped at lower ohms and/or higher power levels........... There is a difference between amount of nic in a bottle and amount of nic in the vapor. many who are using 3-6mg juice at high power are actually using MORE nicotine than a people running 18mg/ml at lower power levels.
 

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You could also drop the OHM rate to increase delivered dosage....... 6mg/ml can deliver as much or more of a dose as 12mg/ml. When vaped at lower ohms and/or higher power levels........... There is a difference between amount of nic in a bottle and amount of nic in the vapor. many who are using 3-6mg juice at high power are actually using MORE nicotine than a people running 18mg/ml at lower power levels.


Thats interesting , i was always told don't vape 18 mg in an RDA , makes sense.
 

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wow, you have been very helpful.

I will probably have to experiment to find out for starters what the best concentration would be for me as a heavy smoker.

long story short, trying to get 100mg/ml concentration base would probably be best. Can you point me to a shop which delivers in eastern europe? Thanks.

When I started vaping after almost 40 years of PAD+. I started on a Protank @ 1.7-2.2ohm and 18-20mg/ml juice....... for about 50-70mg of nictine per day. I vaped and smoked side by side the first 6 months. During that six months I dropped my nic down to 8-12mg/ml...... During month 6 I stopped the cigs and got a mech and Kayfun. Now... I still use the mech and Kayfuns along with a squonker and dripper. I currently vape at around 1-1.3ohm still using the 8-12mg/ml Juice. Only now I lean more to the 8 than the 12. Daily nic intake is still around the 70mg per day mark. I DIY my juice these day and use 50/50 24mg/ml base to make my juice. I vape at 60-70% PG. VG above 50% gives me stomach issues.
 
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Thanks. I was not specific enough, the country to deliver to, is Romania. Molinshop does deliver there, which is great, however 100mg is available only for businesses and not for individuals. Any other shops?
Check out some of these links. Google search: EU Nicotine Base
 
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Hi VLAD :)

Alot of people on the French "survivalist" (ie. vape-apocalypse) forums are using this shop to stock up on 100mg Nic bases =
NICOTINE BASES
(it says "uk" only because I chose "English" as the website language...theyre not located there though, i believe theyre in Denmark...)
Theyll ship pretty much ANYWHERE, inside/outside EU....

I DO know for a fact that they have no problem shipping to France despite the fact that anything above 18mg Nic is illegal here .....they specify on the site that that's YOUR problem ie. "it's up to you to know what taxes or restrictions your particular country applies" ;) ......

If that doesnt work for you... the other option - and the CHEAPEST- is to order from China...they offer free shipping too from what I hear ;) BUT the quality is generally considered "not as good":
Hsmok-Whloesale E Cigarette Liquid,Buy Liquid nicotine online whloesale


Everyone seems to say that the Pink Mule stuff is pure/high quality stuff, no nasty "parasite-taste", no headaches and so on...

I cant speak from personal experience as I havent got around to stashing NIC yet, Im keeping it for last on my " survivalist shopping list" ;) (which is already pretty much done as far as tanks and mods go...) because Im waiting to buy a new Fridge/freezer, mine is way too small even for our family's "food needs" so we're planning on purchasing a new, larger capacity freezer in the next few weeks.

Also, I vape at 3mg, sometimes six, sometimes zero, so I can just buy 18mg and it'll go pretty far ...
HOWEVER, I am planning on stocking up on Nic after the holidays which is why Ive already started researching it a bit on the local forums and can share the results with you : like I said,the general consensus seems to be for those two websites...

Best of Luck ;)!

oh ok just realized I couldnt post links apparently coz theyve disappeared ...

sorry Moderators if i did something i wasnt supposed to..Im not doing any kind of advertising for these places,just trying to help Poster out....

Well,If Im allowed to mention this, the first shop is called "pink-mule" and the shop in China is called "hsmok"
 
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Thanks a lot. You have been very helpful. I got 100ml of high concentration from *purely informative, not advertising at all* a shop called mixnmatcheliquids which delivers to europe with no problem. I have not tried it yet, i'm sort of prepping myself to do it. Still smoking those cigs, but I really want the switchover to work. Thanks again. You have been very helpful.

PS. Maybe mods could sticky some of the links here to make it easy for newbies to find their bases? Don't know whether it is ok, it is just a suggestion.
 
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