My new P10

[cheesebgt]

Hi all...

On Friday I received my P10. My first Super T PV. I got it from cloud 9 vaping. When I opened the parcel I was taken aback by how beautiful a looking device it is. Photos don't do it justice. Also, it is amazingly engineered. Probably the best out of all my PV's. Though I'm guessing I'm preaching to the choir on this board with these points.

Sadly though its just not enough for me to hang on to it. I'm seriously considering selling it. Its the batteries! They're terrible. The vaping experience is akin to the e-lite cigarettes I got on groupon when I first entered the world of e-cigs. They don't seem to be able to provide the power to heat up any of my cartomizers or atomizers. I get the weakest of hits and almost no vapour production. I've tried 2.0 boges carto's, 1.5 dc carto and MA306 in a dca. None of them work satisfactionally. My old ego batteries have more power.

Also, the life of the batteries is abysmal. I knew that they were only 350mah. But thought, maybe mistakenly, that they would last at least half as long as my 600mah 16340 in my GLV2 mini. I get a good 8 hours out them. But no, I'm lucky to get half an hour out of the 10440s.

Also, one other minor thing. The threads are so well engineered. The smoothest threads I've ever used and not just on a PV. But I find that they seem to unwind themselves really easily. So if I did end up keeping this device, I won't be cleaning the threads. In fact I'll be hoping for some furring to occur. So they bite a bit.

I'm sorry if this is all a bit to negative. But its my honest review. Though reading back it is mostly about the batteries and not the device itself. I'm completely gutted as I love the look, the size and the feel of this PV. I will add that this experience will not stop me from buying a P+18500. I'm just going to wait until lisa at cloud 9 vaping has them with flat heads rather than just the slanted ones.

 

[forcedfuel50]

Good morning Cheesebgt. Thank you for your feedback. No doubt the 10440 battery is not the longest lasting battery, but you should be getting more vapor and life then you are. First, are you using the IMR 10440 or the AW 10440 battery? What is the voltage reading on them coming off the charger for you? How many times have you charged an discharged them so far?

On the atomizers, maybe some other PrecisePlus 10440 owners will chime in with their combinations that are working well for them, though if the battery is the culprit, it isn't going to power any atomizer.

 

[Hrathor]

I wasn't sure if he had the plus or the old P10...But on the p+10 with the recommended batteries i was getting a lot better than a half an hour. I used mainly Iken 901/io6/305 atties at 1.5 ohm though. All gave great hit and vapor. The HH357 was awesome as well, but I never really got it broke in good on the P10. I've let several people borrow it and no one has complained about battery life or any other aspect. In fact I have 3 people that want to buy it.

 

[cheesebgt]

Its the new P10 with the rhodium button and top cap. The batteries I'm using are IMR, I think. They are blue and they're from cloud 9 vaping. The batteries are now on their fifth cycle. I'm sorry I don't have any way of reading the charge. But I don't think it would be my charger, as my 16340s come off it and I get a good eight hours use off them and my 14430s that I use with my Ipro last a minimum of 14 hours. I have charged the 10440s for 6 hours each time, which should be plenty. As thats the same amount of time I charge my bigger batteries.

I'm guessing its the batteries. Is there another brand I should be using? If so, am I going to get much more than half an hour out of them? I really wanted this device, as I thought it would be perfect for when I'm out at the pub. As I find even my GLV2 mini and megalodon too big for my jean pockets. I really don't want to be going out in the evening with my pockets full of batteries.

Anyhow... thanks for the replies ff50 and hrathor. Also I'd once again like to say to anyone else reading this thread. The P+10 itself is a beautiful PV. Its also of the highest quality. Even though at the moment I'm not getting much vape time out of mine. I keep finding that I've unknowingly picked it up, as its so tactile.

 

[Hrathor]

AW ICR 10440 350mAh 3.7 volt are the ones I use and are the ones David recommends using as they outperform the ICR's. Also, I'm sure in part it's due to the charger, but mine only seem to take about a half hour to charge. Even if i am off by a bit they don't take anywhere near 6 to charge. I would try a couple ICR batts in it and see what you get with those.

 

[cheesebgt]

I can't seem to find the Icr's anywhere and I really don't want to have to buy them from the states. They don't take 6 hours to charge. I had them on the charger that long. I've put them on the charger again about half an hour ago and I'll come back as the charger lights turn green.

 

[Hrathor]

I can't seem to find the Icr's anywhere and I really don't want to have to buy them from the states. They don't take 6 hours to charge. I had them on the charger that long. I've put them on the charger again about half an hour ago and I'll come back as the charger lights turn green.

Well as fast as you go through them I'm glad they don't take 6 hours. Maybe another possibility is a bad battery lot? I am assuming you got them with them P10, so if they are brand new holding charge shouldn't be a problem. Maybe you can find someone with a meter and get a reading on them, or try to buy a cheap one just to make sure they are charging fully. I wouldn't pay attention to my previous posts about hours on my batts, b/c that is really subjective to how each individual person vapes (and I losse track of time to easily, lol), but I was a 2+ pack/day smoker and only had been off analogs about 6 weeks when I got the P+10. I didn't have any issues with how long they lasted.

 

[forcedfuel50]

Looking at the Cloud 9 Vaping site, it appears you have may have the IMR 10440 batteries as they offer those batteries along with the PrecisePlus. I no longer recommend those as load testing has revealed that the AW ICR 10440 outperforms it, not only in it's length of life, but ability to hold voltage under load. I would recommend switching to the AW ICR 10440 battery. Also, probably not a bad investment to get a voltmeter, here in the states they can be had for under 10.00 US, and they sure can come in handy for testing batteries, chargers and even atomizers resistance.

Though it is well known that the 10440 batteries aren't stellar for length of life, you should still be getting more then 25 or so odd minutes of vape time out of them (most get in the 1-2 hour range) and your vapor shouldn't be weak to non existant, another indicator you aren't getting what you should out of the battery.

Here is the chart of the IMR 10440 vs the AW ICR 10440. The AW ICR 10440 holds a solid two tenths more voltage under load then the IMR and has higher mAh while holding the higher voltage:

 

[cheesebgt]

I took my batteries off the charger half an hour ago. So that was approx. 2 hours of charging. I put the first one in my P+10. Put a kanger 2.0 cartomizer with some DIY fruit punch juice 70/30 pg/vg mix.

30 or so drags/toots on it and the battery has now lost its charge. So I'm guessing its the battery itself thats the problem. I'll try the next one and see how long that lasts. Also the vapour production and TH were weak.

I still don't think it'll be my charger (trustfire tr-001) as I have no problems with any of my other batteries, just the 10440s.

I'll look around for the ICRs, but as I said before I really don't want to be ordering them from outside the UK.

 

[forcedfuel50]

You definitely have the IMR 10440 batteries, so switching them out for some AW brand 10440's will be a big help. Also, i'd recommend picking up a voltmeter as it will tell you all you need to know without having to speculate.

I sell the AW ICR 10440 and shipping is only 3.99 via first class to the UK. I also sell a Voltmeter, under 10.00 US, both can be found here:

Super T Manufacturing, Innovative manufacturer of electronic cigarette products.

I hope this helps you out and have a great rest of the week!

David

 

[Hrathor]

I took my batteries off the charger half an hour ago. So that was approx. 2 hours of charging. I put the first one in my P+10. Put a kanger 2.0 cartomizer with some DIY fruit punch juice 70/30 pg/vg mix.

30 or so drags/toots on it and the battery has now lost its charge. So I'm guessing its the battery itself thats the problem. I'll try the next one and see how long that lasts. Also the vapour production and TH were weak.


I still don't think it'll be my charger (trustfire tr-001) as I have no problems with any of my other batteries, just the 10440s.

I'll look around for the ICRs, but as I said before I really don't want to be ordering them from outside the UK.

I'm just going to guess I get about 3x that many drags. My pulls are about 6-8 seconds probably on average. Also, my vapor and TH were very good. I don't have it right now so I can test it, but that seems really far off of what I was getting.

 

[cheesebgt]

Thanks for the link. I'll definitely get a couple from you, if I can't source them from somewhere closer to home. I have been thinking about getting a voltmetre, but I was hoping to get one that had the 510 threads (and the big flashing numbers), like the one used in this link: pbusardo's Channel - YouTube

So I could just screw it on to my PVs. Because when it comes to electronics I know next to sod all and the easier the better

Thanks once again for all your help and enjoy the rest of boxing day

 

[venkman]

the ICRs work noticeably better than the IMRs. paired with a 1.5ohm HH357 atty, my old-style p10 packs a decent punch.