I ordered my Provari from Provape after midnight on Thursday and it was here on Monday. Super fast shipping. Ialso ordered on Friday from Sun vapers a Knger Protank and it was also here on Monday super super fast shipping. Is the Provari a variable watt device as well as a variable volt? For some reason I thought it was but I see no mention to that in the instructions. Thanks Stu
My Provari arrived yesterday and have a question
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It's a vari volt, the wattage changes with the ohms of the coil and the voltage you set, but you have no direct control over setting the wattage.
Someone will be along in a bit to correct me if I'm wrong.
Someone will be along in a bit to correct me if I'm wrong.
Jets correct. Provari is variable voltage only. After you get used to it you'll understand why many of us say VW isnt needed, especially if you only use one juice delivery device at the same resistance each time.
A good rule of thumb to remember with VV is take the resistance of your attie/cartomizer/clearomizer and add 2 to get in you in optimum voltage range for best flavor and vapor production.
For example a 3ohm cartomizer would be 3ohms + 2 = 5 volts. From there you can adjust it up or down in .1 volt increments until you find your sweet spot.
Someone told me a few weeks ago that equation equaled 8 watts or so.Funny how I got along all this time without knowing that.
If you vape to taste and not to a chart VV is your best option as it's more accurate anyway.
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Thanks for the clarification about watts. Also thanks for the cool tip about adding 2 to the # of ohms to get to a voltage setting to start off with. I am lovin this Provari with the Kanger glass tank. Though it is my first love as it is my first device. LOL
I also got some cartos with it but I am not to sure how to fill them. I think I did it correctly but was not sure as to how much juice to use. The hit felt kind of harsh and there was not as much vapor as with the Kanger. I tried some Provape wintergreen in the carto. I filled the Kanger with some Goldrush from Provape. It was like velvet fog NICE!!
Know having experienced the Kanger I don't see the need for the cartos. What would the benefit to using them be?
Also I am looking to get a back up device. Any suggestions?
Thanks
Stu
I also got some cartos with it but I am not to sure how to fill them. I think I did it correctly but was not sure as to how much juice to use. The hit felt kind of harsh and there was not as much vapor as with the Kanger. I tried some Provape wintergreen in the carto. I filled the Kanger with some Goldrush from Provape. It was like velvet fog NICE!!
Know having experienced the Kanger I don't see the need for the cartos. What would the benefit to using them be?
Also I am looking to get a back up device. Any suggestions?
Thanks
Stu
You can even download an Ohm's Law app on ur phone to help see what Power your at with Voltage and resistance settings
I fill my cartos with the condom method...fill up an empty one 1/2 way with juice and place the carto in adaptor side down. you need to let it soak in 5-10mins. Once you burn a carto, it'll always taste bad
The Cressall Ohm's Law & Power Calculator app for iPhone is the one I use. Its free! It only has one screen with four fields. Voltage, amperes, resistance(the Greek omega), and wattage. Enter any two fields and the other two are calculated for you automatically. I usually enter atty resistance and my sweet spot wattage(7.75W) and I spits out what voltage I will need to achieve it. From there I adjust voltage up and down a tenth or two to if needed. This is why I personally believe VW is pointless. It's just a starting point for finding the sweet spot. You have to adjust your VOLTAGE to actually find it.
A good glass carto tank is better IMO. From my experience, using the juices and VG/PG ratio I use, cartos last longer, I get better flavor and vapor production for longer, they don't leak, as long as you don't flood them they don't gurgle, and I don't get juice in my mouth. I don't care what anyone says, but ALL clearos leak and they all gurgle from time to time. When a clearo works they can be great, but when they don't they can be a huge pain. Basically what I'm saying is that they are inconsistent. Cartos when set up correctly work pretty much flawlessly every time. They take a little more work to get going, but IMO its worth it.
To paraphrase Herbie Brooks, "The 'V' on the front of the jersey is a helluva lot more important that the 'V' on the back."
And if you don't know what I'm talking about, I feel bad for you.
And if you don't know what I'm talking about, I feel bad for you.
How can you say "VW is pointless" when you're using an iPhone app to do what VW already does automagically?
I think it's pointless for me because I always use the same resistance stuff and always keep it at the same setting. If I use something different I know what to set it to. It's not rocket science.
I have a VW/VV and I never have it set to wattage. I hate having to go through the menu, switch it to voltage, and then fine tune my vape using VOLTAGE to suit my liking. I have never just set the wattage and assumed "Well, this is the watts I usually vape at or around, no need to fine tune. It couldn't possibly get better than this!" Heck, I even change the voltage on the same juice in the same atty depending on how it tastes to me that particular day. Sure VW will get you to the ballpark, but it can't find your seats for you.
The resistance of a coil can change for various reasons during normal use. Keeping the same voltage means the wattage (and coil temperature) is often changing.
You are using it wrong then. What purpose is there to change it back to VV just to adjust the voltage? Why not just adjust the wattage? The voltage will automatically adjust accordingly. For all practical purposes, you're targetting a certain wattage (coil temperature) anyway.
If watts can't get you there, then neither can volts. Changing one causes the other to change. It's just physics. Changing wattage is just more convenient and makes more sense because it's a direct correlation to coil temperature. Voltage, on the other hand, requires taking resistance into account and some math (or a chart or a smartphone app). For vaping purposes, watts is always at least as good at volts. In most cases, it's better because it's simpler and easier. No charts, no apps, and no math required.
The bottom line is, if you can do it with volts, you can do it better/easier with watts.
I'm not saying wattage is the be all, end all. But it is the best technology available today. If someone makes a "Variable Temperature" device, that would be even better than Variable Wattage. But even that wouldn't the be-all, end-all. Maybe it's adjustable coil surface or vaporizing rate? Or even Variable Vapor and Variable Throat Hit. The point is, higher level abstractions are convenient and easy. Microcontrollers or microprocessors are better at arithmetics than humans.
Can we all agree it would be great if ProVape makes a VW device? Then we can have the best of both worlds. And by "both worlds", I don't mean VV and VW. I mean Provari quality with eVic convenience. Or something like that.I know you're right but I do the same as double_aa_ron.
I wonder, if ProVape makes 2 models, a VV and a VW? Which would sell more? I suspect the VW eventually will.
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