My Vaping story. Allergic to VG? PG Sentive?

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Montaneias

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hi,

found this forum days ago through a friend and i'm amazed about all the information here! Thank you all for that!

This is my vaping story. About a year ago i bought a ego starter kit and some dekang E-liquids and start vaping (liquids was dekang USA mix 18mg with some drips of dekang melon 18mg).

I smoke about 40 to 60 cigars a day and i had quit with that set up for about a month.

then, i bought a mod and tanks (sigilei 20W and evods, hypertank, pro tanks) and one day i start feeling headaches, and stoped vaping for some hours and try again, headaches pop right on! i though it was about something wasn't ok with my body that day, tryed some analogs and there was no problem, so i leave some days of vaping (i though it was temporary) but couldn´t leave the nicotine habit so i start smoking again.

in the meanwhile i've visit my doctor and made some analyses, ask for advice and all my doctor said was that E-cig is supposed to be temporary until leave analogs, couldn´t get much help there. later visited another doctor which doesn't value my headaches and give me some anxiety drugs. (i thought that might be right and get home to test it) again, didn't solve my vaping problem.

the analyses came out ok, nothing we could say was bad or that i was sick.

I was mad because i have loved my vaping experience, so, decide to solve this and search internet for some information and order some VG 100% e-juice, also get to local pharmacy and got ALIFOR glicerina (vegetable glycerin).

With the e-juice i bought with just a couple of vapes make my head go crazy like there's a cloud inside it, dizziness, my ears feel like otitis. But the e-juice came with some hand writing and i didn't really trust it. also was 18mg so i think it might be that.

So with pharma glycerin e put in a drip e i've bought, a trident V2, and vape it, was supposed to be without any flavor but it smells like cosmetics, and BAM, headaches!

Once again, i can't say it was from VG, there was something about cosmetics in this VG.

i tried to find some juices 100% PG online in Europe but i couldn't find any =( so i was quiting vaping =(.

I've a very close friend who vape daily without touch any analogues so from times to times i tried to vape always with some signs of headaches, brain clouds when i get some minutes with vape,( i can just vape when i'm drunk and there was no problems). I just Stop hurting my body.

A while ago, some new E-cig shops appear in my area so i thought this was my opportunity to buy some VG and PG and take off my doubts, so i've got 100% PG and 100% PG 0mg each, bought original new kangertech sub tank and coils.

Add some VG to the coil and tank, waited some minutes and take a hit. it was the worst vaping experience i ever had: headaches, dizziness, otitis, lost of balance etc.

i have to wait until next day to try PG because this symptoms take at least 24 hours to flush. So next day i clean the tank with careful, take another coil, drip it and set aside some minutes. i start to vape it and nothing was going wrong this time, really different from VG, it has no vapor, yet wasn't feeling reactions at the beginning. After 30 minutes trying PG, start to feel some headaches again, this time wasn't any dizziness or anything close to what VG caused, but still a headache. set it aside some hours and re-try it. same thing happened.

next day i try once more and some headaches come, i continue vaping it and start to feel itch arround arms (paranoia? too much information cause to overthink?). and i've stoped again.

So this is my vaping story but i've decided this time i will solve the mystery with vaping, why i can't vape and witch of this symptoms are just paranoia.

Things i will do:

I'll give PG another shot.

I'll try PEG400 when it arrive, i bought from a croatia vendor www.eliquid-shop.com/

I'll go to the douctor later this week to see if he can help me this time, i'm suspecting i can have some vitamine or protein faulty in my body.

Questions i have:

There is any substitute to VG? PG doesn't make big clouds, i only get a decent vapor at 20W with PG, could the 20W cause me headaches?

PG and PEG looks like to be almost the same but could find any symptoms of PEG allergys or sensitives, anyone know about that?

do you know someone who are allergic/sensitive to both PG & VG?
 

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You know, PG and VG are found in so much stuff ( like cosmetics) that if someone is allergic he or she usually knows from earlier bitter experience :?:, but probably you are sensitive. And if you are starting to feel the effects of that now, you should probably go to a specialist, because it could progress and get much worse if it isn't checked.
 
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Just based on others' experiences here on the forum, Pg sensitivity is much more common than Vg sensitivity.

Question: Did you inhale your cigars?

My guess is the headaches are being caused from too much nicotine in the e-liquid. Most cigar or pipe smokers never inhaled the smoke, but just swirled the smoke in their mouth. So they weren't getting much nicotine into their system, at least not as much as their cigarette smoking counterparts.

I suggest dropping your nicotine level in your e-liquid down to 6 or 12 mg, and see what results you get. I'd also get an e-liquid which is higher in Vg than Pg.
 

Montaneias

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Thank you for your answers.
Sorry forgot to tell,
i smoke about 40-60 cigars a day, i inhale.

today i get some hours with a 100% PG 12mg, i think my headache should be just fear to have Pg sensitivity too.
when i vape it gives me a slight headache, but as i cross the 30 minutes vaping i've notice it goes away. tomorrow i'll vape all day with it.

About the nic, the VG and PG i test this week is 0mg for DIY i both from a local store, bought 100%.

this week i'll visit my doctor i really hope to get some help about VG, i think something is faulty on me. vitamines, minerals, proteins. really don't know but vaping without it is ok but isn't the same xD

i will be updating my post.

happy vapes!
 

Siouxinpa

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My only question is how is it possible to smoke 40-60 cigars a day? I dont think ive ever smoked 60 cigarettes in a day in all my years.

Two possibilities. They are obviously European so they may be confusing cigars with cigarettes, or they were smoking cigarillos. I had been known to smoke a pack of those in a stressful day. Now if it turns out they were smoking 60 ring Churchills they had to have 5 going at one time to smoke that many. :shock:
 

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Questions i have:

There is any substitute to VG? PG doesn't make big clouds, i only get a decent vapor at 20W with PG, could the 20W cause me headaches?

Maybe 20 watts is the problem.

If you are vaping coils that are designed to work at 5 to 10 watts, and you are running them at 20 watts, you will be getting constant burnt hits and definitely getting sick.
 
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