I don't think refrigerators have an ambient humidity of 65-70% which is essential to keeping a cigar in good condition if one is going to *smoke it*.
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Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux
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I don't think refrigerators have an ambient humidity of 65-70% which is essential to keeping a cigar in good condition if one is going to *smoke it*.
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It depends on the person of course, but I think that wouldn't be much of an issue for someone who was never addicted to tobacco delivery systems they wish to extract. So since most were just cig smokers, wouldn't be hard for those to keep cigar and pipe tobacco around. For you guys who smoked the finer tobaccos, yeah I can see that as an issue. One nice thing about being a cig smoker, didn't take long for vaping to equal and then surpass that activity, so even cigs aren't a problem for me to keep around without wanting to smoke them.
I still have several cigars on hand that have been sitting over a year without me wanting to smoke them, as I was never addicted to cigars. Pipe tobacco would also not be an issue, as I don't even have a pipe to smoke it with lol. I bought a pack of Nat Shermans over a year ago, just because, after having been a vaper for a couple years and it lasted me several weeks, and that was with the intention of smoking them. I also have some blueberry nasal snuff I bough over a month ago, just because, that I've only used a couple times, that will probably still be over half full a year from now.
Yeah, he was honest enough to admit that, when I asked. IMO, if you're having an urge for an analog, it might be because you're craving nicotine.
I started @24mg after leaving the Camel n-f's behind and it worked for me, but that's why I bought my first e-cig. The first three four days were fine, it was my second & third weeks where cravings kicked in, I upped the Nic level and got through it.
Now I normally do ~16-18mg at work, 6-14mg at home, and I haven't wanted or needed an Analog. I've been very fortunate to find something that has worked. I've found a Hobby to replace my Habit, I've spent lots of cash and had lots of fun doing it... I figure I'll break-even in another 3-4 years.
I'm in a happier state of mind now.
I am/was primarily a cigarette smoker who like the occasional cigar. When I did fork out the dosh to buy a fine cigar like a My Father's Cigars - Flor de las Antillas it was to spend the next couple of hours taking in the rich nuances and aromas. It seems entirely counter-intuitive and, in a strange way, wasteful, to chop up a fine specimen to make an extract.
That is evidently faulty thinking based on years of conditioning. The truth is actually quite the reverse for someone who gravitates towards vaping and no longer wants to smoke. By chopping up a fine cigar and making an extract, providing it is done well, one can enjoy much more than 2 hours of smoking bliss with it in its vape form and I certainly have enjoyed many cigars in their vaping form (Kuba Kuba, Acid Blondie, Ashtons, etc etc). Some of the nuances may be lost but the outcome in vape form should be quite satisfying and much healthier than smoking it.
The issues is psychological and association based for those who have on occasion purchased a fine cigar or are used to smoking bowls of good pipe blends. So you are quite right there Jerms. I have never smoked a pipe so that is a good call - if you don't own a pipe then you shouldn't be tempted to smoke it.
My plan with the current batch of extracts I am making is to mix some with plain PG/VG liquid and standard nicotine and some with flavorless 100% WTA nicotine liquid. That ought to scratch some deep itches.
That is evidently faulty thinking based on years of conditioning. The truth is actually quite the reverse for someone who gravitates towards vaping and no longer wants to smoke. By chopping up a fine cigar and making an extract, providing it is done well, one can enjoy much more than 2 hours of smoking bliss with it in its vape form and I certainly have enjoyed many cigars in their vaping form (Kuba Kuba, Acid Blondie, Ashtons, etc etc). Some of the nuances may be lost but the outcome in vape form should be quite satisfying and much healthier than smoking it.
The issues is psychological and association based for those who have on occasion purchased a fine cigar or are used to smoking bowls of good pipe blends. So you are quite right there Jerms. I have never smoked a pipe so that is a good call - if you don't own a pipe then you shouldn't be tempted to smoke it.
My plan with the current batch of extracts I am making is to mix some with plain PG/VG liquid and standard nicotine and some with flavorless 100% WTA nicotine liquid. That ought to scratch some deep itches.
FYI for those interested. HHV's sale is live. SUMMER30 for 30% off.
Placed a 500ml order for meself. Not bad for $165 shipped with the discount. Shipping was $18.
Placed a 500ml order for meself. Not bad for $165 shipped with the discount. Shipping was $18.
I think ultimately, nowadays, what we are paying for with commercial NET liquids is their labours, the ability to instantly snap up ready made NETs and overcoming wait times (especially for cold macerations) and perhaps a little personal touch of sorts.
I doubt at this stage there are any secret and innovative techniques being used. When one is used we will know one is being used because of the originality and exceptional traits of the juice (i.e ahlusion).
For example, most of us know exactly what techniques our in house NET creators are using and I probably wouldn't hesitate to buy their products if they went into the business of selling them. We all knew where Clay got his techniques and while he was in business, he was fabulously successful irrespective of his techniques being known.
Perhaps one of the biggest advantages of knowing how to make NET's is as a safeguard and an out in the event that the FDA gets its way in regulating the industry. I'd be shivering in my boots if I was one of the very many vapers who only loves boutique non-tobacco synthetic liquids, in a climate like this.
I doubt at this stage there are any secret and innovative techniques being used. When one is used we will know one is being used because of the originality and exceptional traits of the juice (i.e ahlusion).
For example, most of us know exactly what techniques our in house NET creators are using and I probably wouldn't hesitate to buy their products if they went into the business of selling them. We all knew where Clay got his techniques and while he was in business, he was fabulously successful irrespective of his techniques being known.
Perhaps one of the biggest advantages of knowing how to make NET's is as a safeguard and an out in the event that the FDA gets its way in regulating the industry. I'd be shivering in my boots if I was one of the very many vapers who only loves boutique non-tobacco synthetic liquids, in a climate like this.
One Day only sale, first day of Summer, June 21st.
And I have no cash
I placed an order during my last paycheck. Wish they would have advertised the sale sooner -- then I could have saved it over and placed a larger order
Ohs, well.I smoked Cigarettes mostly, in my early 30's I picked up a Meerschaum Turkish pipe for home use, I thought carrying a pipe and pouch of tobacco to be to cumbersome... silly me. I did enjoy Captain Black White pouch & Gold pouch best, nice flavors and good nic buzz, never tried much else since that was satisfying. I lost the pipe when I shipped out of Germany, never thought to replace it.
I dabbled in a few cheap tins of cigars, until my E-Cig arrived, because the taste of cigs was awful, I knew I was ready but needed my nicotine fix.
Now my Cigar and pipe Tobaccos are ordered after reading the description, I know it won't be exact, but it should be in the same area code.
My first few Cigar extractions were done using half the cigar, learning what works and what doesn't could make the second extraction better tasting, at least I hope it's true.
Anthony, I don't think Synthetic Flavoring is in much danger since most are made for use in foods, check out your Grocery Store Baking Isle. Plus with some imagination, I think we could home brew quite a few, I've done Coffee, Clove and Vanilla, and I'm sure I could think of a few more Spices it would work for.
Not all would be primary flavors, I think Clove is a good compliment to Tobacco or some Fruits when used sparingly. Speaking of fruits, I think you could get some decent flavor from an Orange peel, you'd need to separate the rind from the skin, but it's a possibility.
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Well, for the first time I tried a sample of a few drops of one of my macerations that have been on the windowsill since 1 June (20 days now).
It is a mini cigarillo called Al Capone and is called 'cognac infused cigar'. It is a fairly sweet cigar light bodied cigarillo.
I did not filter this sampler before I taste tested it. I just stuck a needle tip in the jar and pulled some back into the needle and then squeezed a few drops directly into an atomizer.
Well I must say, it has not disappointed. I did not know what to expect. This is pleasantly surprising. It's not a strong impact tobacco but it's getting there. It is more potent than anything I purchased from other clean tobacco extract vendors and I can actually taste the cigar and the cognac infusion. I know that might be something, those of you have macerated a few different tobacco batches may be used to, but for me this is a real surprise!
It's very vapeable and actually quite delicious. The sweetness is coming through and the cognac is quite pronounced.
The tobacco impact is significant especially given that this cigar was not a potent cigar. It was a fairly light sweet tobacco.
Tobacco extraction is pretty exciting !
It is a mini cigarillo called Al Capone and is called 'cognac infused cigar'. It is a fairly sweet cigar light bodied cigarillo.
I did not filter this sampler before I taste tested it. I just stuck a needle tip in the jar and pulled some back into the needle and then squeezed a few drops directly into an atomizer.
Well I must say, it has not disappointed. I did not know what to expect. This is pleasantly surprising. It's not a strong impact tobacco but it's getting there. It is more potent than anything I purchased from other clean tobacco extract vendors and I can actually taste the cigar and the cognac infusion. I know that might be something, those of you have macerated a few different tobacco batches may be used to, but for me this is a real surprise!
It's very vapeable and actually quite delicious. The sweetness is coming through and the cognac is quite pronounced.
The tobacco impact is significant especially given that this cigar was not a potent cigar. It was a fairly light sweet tobacco.
Tobacco extraction is pretty exciting !
We all knew where Clay got his techniques and while he was in business, he was fabulously successful irrespective of his techniques being known.
Anthony, by stating While he [Clay]was in business, someone might get the impression he is no longer doing business. He is still doing business, I hope, as I'm still awaiting an order from the first week in May.
Anthony, by stating While he [Clay]was in business, someone might get the impression he is no longer doing business. He is still doing business, I hope, as I'm still awaiting an order from the first week in May.
I thought it was a 24 hour sale? Which would be midnight tonight (even though midnight is technically tomorrow)
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I posted it yesterday, so the tomorrow mentioned is today, which is when the sale will end, tonight!
I posted it yesterday, so the tomorrow mentioned is today, which is when the sale will end, tonight!
Well, they did start the sale a few hours early upon the request of The HHV ARMY
I doubt it will end early -- Dusty and the ARMY just had a head start
Running my MVJ Gurkha Legend 2001 on my cotton wicked T3D. The cotton definitely makes a big difference in the amount of flavor and the style of the flavor. The GL 2001 has a lot more nuance and the spice is toned down considerably. I can't wait to try the rest of the line up again.
We all knew where Clay got his techniques and while he was in business, he was fabulously successful irrespective of his techniques being known.
Anthony, by stating While he [Clay]was in business, someone might get the impression he is no longer doing business. He is still doing business, I hope, as I'm still awaiting an order from the first week in May.
Yeah, that comment kind of depressed me too, but I'm starting to think along the same lines. I'm not holding out much hope for ever receiving my order from early April. At the 90 day mark, I'm probably going to request my credit card to reverse the charges.
Well, they did start the sale a few hours early upon the request of The HHV ARMY
I doubt it will end early -- Dusty and the ARMY just had a head start
Well, got my small order in! I appreciate the heads up on the sale!
I don't really care myself, but I got an email today from Halo saying they are offering a free 10ml bottle of Tribeca with a $20 purchase. Tribeca was ok, but I still have a big bottle and would be hard-pressed to spend $20 on Halo at this point.
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