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Jerms

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I don't boil my cotton and I don't boil rayon either.

Ah, I was under the impression it needed boiling from what I saw. Maybe I'll dig more than. Unless it has noticable flavor improvement it's not really worth checking out for me. Improved performance over KGD cotton isn't necessary for my needs, as the cotton already outlasts my coil (as in needing to dry burn) because of what I vape. Never burn my cotton and don't need it to wick any quicker. If I hear better flavor though, I'm in.
 

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There is a learning curve with rayon. You normally use more than cotton as it does not swell like cotton does. It is very inexpensive so far so that tossing it out after a tank or drip doesn't hurt.

I knew I shouldn't have thrown out my shirts from the seventies.
 

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I recently ROASTED ~35 mils of Hawk Sauce @ 29 watts in a Stillare coiled at 1.2 ohm on my Hana V3. I only rewicked because I needed to mix another bottle of Hawk Sauce and it seemed like a good time to see what was going on with the wick.

Yeah it's not NET but this is after 35mils and 5 days @ 29 Watts. Rinsed out of course. Cotton would be a bit singed where you see the darker spots after 2 days.

Clean Flavor from the first vape to the last.

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Yep. Definitely trying this.

The whole consistency in flavor is what has me using treated XC-116. Though I enjoy it and it works great for GeJ and others, I would prefer a more...easy to change solution now that I've gotten somewhat past Journeyman level in making coils.

Also- 29 watts?

I'm going to be looking into your setup ASAP. Here I was thinking going over 13 would "cook" the juice.

I do plan on getting some pure VG and PG, though, so there's going to be a "Let's make a candle out of vaping supplies" post at some point. Especially if I decide to stop using Readyxwick. Which I really haven't. I feel like a little kid with a chemistry set watching the gunk/residue burn off of the wicks and don't think my torch is quite hot enough to actually burn the wick itself.

Works well, as long as you keep it wet. I still made a major fail getting a brass VAMO rather than the stainless, because that limits what I use the SVM KFL clone on, greatly - it still runs well at 3.3-3.5v on the Spinner, which means it's probably around 1-1.2Ω. Gunks faster than anything else I use, though, which bugs the heck out of me.

Also, is that a mech mod you're using?

I can't imagine getting that much power out of my setups, but then again- I'm using the VAMO with an 18650 so it's not truly running at it's peak.

Celu-cotton.....Cellulose....Cotton....Celotton, or Celuotton, if you will.

That sounds like an odd winery, maybe I should just try hemp wick instead?

No, I seriously mean I might try it, and I should probably avoid coming up with new terms that might confuse new posters.

I think I might be a little confused right now. :blink:

Good night/morning, all.
 

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I'm starting to really dig the CAO Italia from MVJ. As I get deeper into the bottle it is relaying a new nature. The extra shaking before filling up has helped. The Habano taste is no longer masking everything. The flavor has become a solid medium body tobacco that is smooth in nature with a medium body. There is a bit of spice underneath that adds range to the tobacco without really pronouncing itself. It doesn't attack your tongue with pepper. It just sits underneath doing solid work. It becomes most apparent after chain vaping. Then it is mostly noticable in the after taste.

It isn't a vape that is going to knock your socks off. It is a solid well built flavor that is great for long sessions when you don't have time to disect nuances. It is a blue collar hard working vape that surprises you with an occasional gift of toasty exhaled, a little cocoa, or a touch of nut.
 
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Mike, how old is the juice and is extra shot or standard?

I'm starting to really dog the CAO Italia from MVJ. As I get deeper into the bottle it is relaying a new nature. The extra shaking before filling up has helped. The Habano taste is no longer masking everything. The flavor has become a solid medium body tobacco that is smooth in nature with a medium body. There is a bit of spice underneath that adds range to the tobacco without really pronouncing itself. It doesn't attack your tongue with pepper. It just sits underneath doing solid work. It becomes most apparent after chain vaping. Then it is mostly noticable in the after taste.

It isn't a vape that is going to knock your socks off. It is a solid well built flavor that is great for long sessions when you don't have time to disect nuances. It is a blue collar hard working vape that surprises you with an occasional gift of toasty exhaled, a little cocoa, or a touch of nut.
 

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Yep. Definitely trying this.

The whole consistency in flavor is what has me using treated XC-116. Though I enjoy it and it works great for GeJ and others, I would prefer a more...easy to change solution now that I've gotten somewhat past Journeyman level in making coils.

Also- 29 watts?

I'm going to be looking into your setup ASAP. Here I was thinking going over 13 would "cook" the juice.

Also, is that a mech mod you're using?

I can't imagine getting that much power out of my setups, but then again- I'm using the VAMO with an 18650 so it's not truly running at it's peak.

Celu-cotton.....Cellulose....Cotton....Celotton, or Celuotton, if you will.

That sounds like an odd winery, maybe I should just try hemp wick instead?

No, I seriously mean I might try it, and I should probably avoid coming up with new terms that might confuse new posters.

I think I might be a little confused right now. :blink:

Good night/morning, all.

I was using it on the Hana V3 a DNA 30 Variable Wattage Mod. Not to get into an entire debate but Wattage is not just Wattage. I can run the Hana V3 at 29 watts on a 28 gauge .8 ohm set of coils and it is a different vape than 30 gauge @29 watts wound dual @ 1.2 ohms. At least for me. I do run mechanicals more often than not. There are only a few juices that really shine at higher wattage. None of them are NETs :p I typically vape my NETs out of ePipes on rather pedestrian setups.

I did try the ready wick, I have access to a Kiln that I do not have to pay electricity for so I bought some XC-116 and made my own, cooked it in the Kiln for 12 hours at sufficient temps. My issue with ready wick is that it "Changes" some of my juice flavors. I know it shouldn't but it does. I really liked SS mesh and cable but some fruits and creams just do not work out for me on SS.

Cotton has been my mainstay wick in any atomizer. I will most likely be using the cellucotton for a while. It is slightly more heat resistant that cotton and the flavor from it is cleaner. It does not mute some of the sweeter flavors the way cotton does.

I am vaping a NET "Solent, it's not mis-spelled, it's not people" in a Spheroid that is stuffed with fluff and wicked with cellucotton at the moment. It is devine, I think this extraction is almost done. :D (One of my own I just had fun with a play on the tobacco name.)
 
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Finally something I can actually add to the conversation that might be helpful Information . . .

JUST AN FYI:


You can find "CelluCotton" in many places (even rebranded), however the best place is at "Sally's Beauty Supply" since they offer it at a very reasonable price and Ya' can get it at 10' & 500' lengthens: Graham CelluCotton Cotton Coil (Usually less then what Ya even can find on Amazon) . . . BTW: If "You" know someone (usally a professional hairstylist/cosmetologist) with a "Sally's Membership" Card Ya' can get it even for less . . . ;)

Also - I know all too well that the "CC" that is extremely absorbent and holds on to liquids very well, especially since that is what it was made to do and to keep toxic/harmful chemicals from dripping down hairlines and into peoples eyes (BTW: "CC" is also used as the base for "Kleenex" Tissues, in place of surgical cottons in many places, and in female hygiene products - so "You" know it will be absorbent . . .:facepalm:). . .

So - Everyone PLEASE BE CAREFUL ! ! !


Just Sayin' . . . ;)
 

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Guys haven't been on here in awhile but just wanted to ask some of u natural tobacco enthusiasts like myself if u have ever tried any of wordup-ecigs tobacco's.I think they are all probably synthetics but damn they got some good tobacco flavors over there IMO.If haven't tried them u ought too :)

I tried them way back in the day when I first starting vaping. I ordered a few of their tobaccos (AS, Red, and some Turkishes), but don't remember them being too analog- or NET-like and quickly forgot about them once I discovered W2V and VR. In fact, I probably still have some "vintage" (lol) bottles in the cellar. However, that was a very long time ago, and they might have changed significantly since then.

Speaking of artibaccos, has anyone tried any from NHaler? I was thinking about placing an order for some Lung Juice to clean out the old wind bags a bit and including a sample or two of their arties.
 
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It was Brandy flavored from a concentrate. I think I got it back, see what a week's steeping produces.

I've put my recipes on two different flash drives and will back up one every time I do a new recipe.

I bought a Corsair 32 mb SSD for my PC. I think it bought it after two years. Not sure, it might be the video card. I'm too lazy to fix it. Probably go back to it when this laptop fries.

Now I'm sad. I really enjoy brandy once in a while.

Was the cigar brandy-flavored or did you use an adjunct like St. Remy or another VSOP?

I'll bet a dollar I don't have that you make the recipe even better the second time around.

Also, email your recipes to yourself. That's a short-term solution for not having a HDD backup.

But yeah, writing it down can work, unless you're me and write things down on scraps of paper you find 5 years later.

Then it's a giant fail.

With email, you can at least put "DIY RECIPE #1", ect. in the title and you don't have to worry about losing it, because it's stored on your email provider's server.

Not that I fully trust any email provider to keep my conversations or content safe, however.

But it's a start.



Yeah, your F@H score means you've gotta be running dual GPUs or one heck of a fast single GPU.

1000w PSU or higher, or multiple PCs?

(Antec EA-650 here with an HD6850, a little dated but runs everything well).

At any rate, only Intel SSDs passed the "won't fail" tests I've seen most recently (several months ago) and are a bit pricier, perhaps due to this being published somewhere I cannot recall.
 

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I just tried Hemp for the first time. It's not great at wicking the juice fast enough for the way I chain vape. It burned out and fell apart almost immediately. Might try a tank and see what it does, but I'm sticking to cotton for ease of use.

That sounds like an odd winery, maybe I should just try hemp wick instead?
 

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I just tried Hemp for the first time. It's not great at wicking the juice fast enough for the way I chain vape. It burned out and fell apart almost immediately. Might try a tank and see what it does, but I'm sticking to cotton for ease of use.

I too tried hemp. It didn't thrill me. Same with eko-wool. I stick with Kho Gen Do organic cotton for micro-coil 26-29ga builds on all my RBAs/RTAs and four-strand silica on the 100 pre-wound standard coils/wicks I bought from FastTech for 4¢ each (1.5 ohm, 32ga kanthal), which are great for renewing EVOD-style clearo heads.
 
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