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Every so often since this thread started, speculation pops up about what Perique is, who controls it, how it's processed, etc. Here are the facts: The Mystique of Perique | The #1 Source for Pipes and Pipe Tobacco Information

Lost of great info there. This part popped out to me.. "The flavors that you get out of the Perique are unbelievable. I mean, you’ve got that fermentation sort of fruity component, you’ve got an olive component, you got like a fine nut component, you got layer and layer of flavor from Perique."

When I read about "an olive component" it totally clicked. I've been vaping St. James since yesterday since all the Perique talk got in the mood for it. There's a signature flavor in Perique that really grabs me that I never knew the right descriptive words for, but it's very similar to olives that also have I flavor I don't know the correct words to name the taste. I don't know.. earthy, rich, full, meaty, almost bitter-sour. A result of the unique fermentation process that Perique goes through.

So vaping Perique is definately olive-y to me. Kind of like Kalamata olives, with their fruity, grape/wine tinge. That also explains why I'm not always in the mood for Perique; I'm also often not in the mood for olives. When I am though they're great. Not those fake-black canned jobbers, I never care for those "olives", but the quality ones. Especially the stuffed ones with garlic or jalapeno.
 

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So vaping Perique is definately olive-y to me. Kind of like Kalamata olives, with their fruity, grape/wine tinge. That also explains why I'm not always in the mood for Perique; I'm also often not in the mood for olives. When I am though they're great. Not those fake-black canned jobbers, I never care for those "olives", but the quality ones. Especially the stuffed ones with garlic or jalapeno.

Jerms, now if you can find a Perique that has a flavor background of olives stuffed with blue cheese I'm all in :)
 

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Thanks, I like GJ4, but I definitely taste the vanilla in it competing with the caramel. It seems to use the same tobacco base as the newer Organic #1.

Which brings me to something that's been stuck in my craw for some time. I first ordered Organic #1 in March 2013 and loved it. It was a translucent medium amber color and had a great straight-up tobacco flavor. I ordered it again maybe three months later, and it was totally different. It was an opaque dark brown, almost black, like motor oil. It tasted different too. Not bad, but it kind of had a wet cardboard flavor to my weirdo taste buds. Could this just be a result of seasonal differences in the tobacco, or did they totally change the recipe? I would really like to get some more of the older, amber Organic #1. It was one of the first ones I'd ever tried from GeJ and made me fall in love with their juices.

I can't directly tell you what happened to your second opaque bottle but I can only relate my own experiences.

I find most GEJ juices vape best young after the initial steep period. Over a period of 6 months the juices that are cased with flavours, such as vita Bella, organic, and others reverse steep and deteriorate quickly. The dark brown colour is an indication of this. Nicoticket juices have the same indicative darkening of the juices to let you know the juices are breaking down. This darkening results in a loss of flavour and in some cases, a putrefaction of flavor. With GEJ I find that they just loss flavour despite the liquid being significantly darker.


I find GEJ juices are one of the worst reverse steeping NETs I have. My patriot is 9 months old and all I am getting is a faint hint of perique. Wild Turkey and the other light analog NET (can't remember it's name) have lost significant flavour. They did not darken because they don't have any other flavours and as such are pure nets.

In the first 4 months these juices where heavenly. The reverse steeping issues don't really affect those who buy just enough to vape over a short period of time.

I think the drastic deterioration of GEJ juices over the longer term is owing to the bottles. Those soft plastic bottles may be the culprit. I don't know if GEJ had upgraded their bottles since then.

The fact that the organic flavored juices are going off is perhaps a good sign that they are indeed organic. After all it's food isn't it? In contrast I have FSUSA synthetic liquids I purchased 3 years ago that are as good as the day I got them.

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Whoever wants to check out RBFS juices, 20% sale starting midnight tonight at Vapingwatch.

Is it appropriate to post this here? May I share the coupon code?

Damn, Kataphraktos! You beat me to it. Coupon code is "1year20" and is good "From tonight at midnight (that's 6/27) until Tuesday at midnight (that's 7/1)."

I'm requesting 20% off a 55 gallon drum of SJP.
 

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I think the drastic deterioration of GEJ juices over the longer term is owing to the bottles. Those soft plastic bottles may be the culprit. I don't know if GEJ had upgraded their bottles since then.

They have. They now come in the harder, clearer plastic (PET?). I've noticed a difference in shelf life and consistency of taste.
 

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They have. They now come in the harder, clearer plastic (PET?). I've noticed a difference in shelf life and consistency of taste.

PET bottles are far better for juice storage than the softer plastic bottles. PET keeps air out better and leaches less chemicals into the juice. Almost as good as glass.
 

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Damn, Kataphraktos! You beat me to it. Coupon code is "1year20" and is good "From tonight at midnight (that's 6/27) until Tuesday at midnight (that's 7/1)."

I'm requesting 20% off a 55 gallon drum of SJP.

And to think, I was multitasking!

I've been holding off trying out the new RBFS flavors, because I have liters of juice at home, but at this point...
 

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I had all of the priginal launch RBFS juices. Liked, but not loved, and whole heartily respected. Fabulous & Burley is a reorder, and for me that speaks VOLUMES as very few retail juices currently are. I might have to jump in here, as there are a couple new ones I really want to try, specifically RY$ and the Count Caramel...and probably the Admiral.
 

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Whoever wants to check out RBFS juices, 20% sale starting midnight tonight at Vapingwatch.

Is it appropriate to post this here? May I share the coupon code?

*sigh* serious dilemma time for me now that I have a shipito account set up.


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They have. They now come in the harder, clearer plastic (PET?). I've noticed a difference in shelf life and consistency of taste.

Yup the PET bottles make all the difference. I wasn't sure if GEJ used PET last year but I suspected they didn't.


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I had all of the priginal launch RBFS juices. Liked, but not loved, and whole heartily respected. Fabulous & Burley is a reorder, and for me that speaks VOLUMES as very few retail juices currently are. I might have to jump in here, as there are a couple new ones I really want to try, specifically RY$ and the Count Caramel...and probably the Admiral.

Fabulous & Burley is aptly named.
 

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Finally broke open some Voo Doo Queen. Wow! That's the closest taste to a smoking pipe I've experienced in a juice so far. Latakia battling it out with Perique. Latakia winning so far. Not getting any Mocha taste but I don't care. Big shout out to Marie Levaux for tickling my taste buds.
Think I'll give a listen to Witch Queen of New Orleans by Redbone as I'm vaping this.
 

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Finally broke open some Voo Doo Queen. Wow! That's the closest taste to a smoking pipe I've experienced in a juice so far. Latakia battling it out with Perique. Latakia winning so far. Not getting any Mocha taste but I don't care. Big shout out to Marie Levaux for tickling my taste buds.
Think I'll give a listen to Witch Queen of New Orleans by Redbone as I'm vaping this.

The Voodoo Queen I got from johnni is currently ranked the #2 juice I have ever had.
 
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