Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

[Midniteoyl]

It is actually very quiet the fans ramp with temps. I have no need to overclock, with the hardware even the most demanding games do not stress the system. I can make the fans whine with overclocking the CPU and GPUs but I see no noticeable gain in performance so do not see the point in adding un-necessary heat to the mix.
Core i7 Extreme 24 gigs of ram, 690x2, two cards that are SLI on one card=Quad SLI I was thinking about buying Titans for it but vaping has taken over my video game addictions. I did have a 580 in it for a bit for dedicated Phys-X but it runs things perfect with or without it.
At this point it is just a really fancy machine that runs 4 monitors and gets used for forums, email and to run e-juice-me-up

Edit: Yes, ImaNerd

hah.. mines the same! $1000's spent only to surf the web

 

[Jerms]

It's called Pure Burley now and really works for me too. I always found straight burleys a little flat and one-dimensional, but this one has some depth and great flavor. It and Eclipse (black cav) are definite reorders for me from EV.

Thanks, yes, Pure Burley. Turns out it grabbed my attention, but didn't hold on to it very long, so straight burley blends continue to be a short session vape for me. Pure Burley is still a recommended option from me to the burley fans out there, and those looking for a more ciggy type NET experience.

Switched to John's home-brew, Danish Burley. I like this one even more, fantastic burley blend. Again, short session jobber for me though.

What's next? Hmmmm, maybe I'll do a first drip of Dust's Shortcut to Mushrooms. Black cav & Latakia.

 

[Jerms]

Aaaand.. Shortcut to Mushrooms, a Dustmight extraction. I like this much more than expected. It's different having Latakia in a fairly sweet tobacco blend, and I enjoy the sweet and smoky combo. The Latakia doesn't have a strong kick, but it's presence is obvious. The black cavendish doesn't taste like the normal funky black cav I normally am not big on. Instead it just offers a heavy sweetness that is creamy and reminds me of a vanilla tobacco. Shortcut may not be top shelp smoking tobacco, but it makes for a pleasantly different NET that almost resembles something HHV would make. Actually, if they were to release something with Latakia I can imagine it tasting like this. Thoroughly enjoyable Dust.

 

[MikeNice81]

I'm vaping on MVJ's Ramon Bueso The Project. I think this is the first MVJ cigar vape that I'm really just "eh" about. It is a medium bodied tobacco with natural sweetness. It is a thick creamy Connecticut taste that has a good presence. It just seems to lack the feisty nature I expected. I'm not getting any back notes of spice or earth. It is good and the flavor is enjoyable.

I think the issue is that the complexity of the analog just kind of flattens out. It becomes one whole flavor. The tastes of nutmeg, espresso, and earth blend together making an indistinct but tasty blend. It doesn't have anything popping out at the moment.

I really don't want to sound negative. It is a good tobacco. I think I just over hyped it in my mind coming in. I've heard great things about the analog. So, this juice had a big hill to climb.

 

[regal55]

. It and Eclipse (black cav) are definite reorders for me from EV.

The Cavendish starts flavor starts coming thru after steeping a couple weeks, its one of my favorite vapes. Would be my ADV if it weren't so expensive and they sold big bottles.


I have a question, I've about given up on my Kayfunlite builds, just don't have the dexterity for it. Spent 2 hours for two tanks yesterday, life is too short.

Can anyone recommend a natural tobacco for an ADV that doesn't clog coils. My tastes lead toward Cavendish and Ry4's, sweeter tobacco I guess. I made a net out of Newminster Superior but a 5 micron filter isn't enough to keep kanger (aerotank) coils clean.

 

[Brobdingnagian]

Air Compressor...

It kinda is. I mean, it isn't but...

This is the "too broke to afford one" budget item.

Works really well on keyboards, too.


& RE:

The whole NR-R-NR wire things; do they come in NR-Ribbon-NR?

I might try to twist a few together just for the heck of it, and FT is the only place I can think of that stocks similar items.


Regarding the X-X-flavor MvJ; it's a bit of a quick gunker. I'd guesstimate that it gunks around the same rate as GeJ.

Keep this in mind if you request extra flavor on top of your extra flavor, at the same time.

I'm out of silicone grommets and really want to switch over to the RBA entirely.

But....need an EGO-EGO adapter for the VAMO.

Can't get it to thread in there without one.

 

[billherbst]

Aaaand.. Shortcut to Mushrooms, a Dustmight extraction. I like this much more than expected. It's different having Latakia in a fairly sweet tobacco blend, and I enjoy the sweet and smoky combo. The Latakia doesn't have a strong kick, but it's presence is obvious. The black cavendish doesn't taste like the normal funky black cav I normally am not big on. Instead it just offers a heavy sweetness that is creamy and reminds me of a vanilla tobacco. Shortcut may not be top shelp smoking tobacco, but it makes for a pleasantly different NET that almost resembles something HHV would make. Actually, if they were to release something with Latakia I can imagine it tasting like this. Thoroughly enjoyable Dust.

One of the extractions in my most recent batch of five pipe tobacco macerations is Hearth & Home Mazatec---a retail blend of Black Cav, Cyprian Latakia, and a little Virginia. On pipe blend review sites, H&H Mazatec is often noted to be closely similar to JustForHim's retail blend, Shortcut to Mushrooms. I've had a bottle of Dustmight's extract of that blend for awhile now (thanks, Dust!).

Sweet, smoky, and mushroomy. What an unusual mix of flavors! I have no idea, of course, how these retail tobacco blends taste when smoked in a pipe, but I have to admit that I'm not particularly drawn to either of them much as a natural tobacco extract vaping flavor. Imagine putting mushrooms and toasted marshmallows in a blender with a touch of liquid smoke, then using the purée to make soup. That's what both of these NETs remind me of when vaped. Nothing wrong with the quality of Dustmight's or my own extraction---to my palate, the mushroom flavor in Dustmight's Shortcut is somewhat more forward than in my Mazatec, which strikes me as a bit smokier. Both are sweet (presumably from the Black Cavendish) in a way that confuses me, since my brain expects savory with mushrooms.

Some other natural tobacco vapers might really like H&H Mazatec NET or Shortcut to Mushrooms---Jerms seems to have a certain qualified appreciation, which I assume to be more than mere diplomacy---but neither of them makes the cut as my personal cups of tea. I'm so spoiled by liking most of my homemade tobacco blend extracts that the occasional misfire is an odd experience, but that's to be expected.

 

[Midniteoyl]

The Cavendish starts flavor starts coming thru after steeping a couple weeks, its one of my favorite vapes. Would be my ADV if it weren't so expensive and they sold big bottles.


I have a question, I've about given up on my Kayfunlite builds, just don't have the dexterity for it. Spent 2 hours for two tanks yesterday, life is too short.

Can anyone recommend a natural tobacco for an ADV that doesn't clog coils. My tastes lead toward Cavendish and Ry4's, sweeter tobacco I guess. I made a net out of Newminster Superior but a 5 micron filter isn't enough to keep kanger (aerotank) coils clean.

Once you get that coil you like, simply pull the clogged wick, dry burn the coil and rewick..

 

[Midniteoyl]

It kinda is. I mean, it isn't but...

This is the "too broke to afford one" budget item.

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-gallon-100-psi-oilless-pancake-air-compressor-95275.html

 

[Brobdingnagian]

Once you get that coil you like, simply pull the clogged wick, dry burn the coil and rewick..

Also, I forgot to note that Fasttech also sells pre-rolled coils for those of us who have difficulty coiling coils.

Pre-rolled in the correct resistance range (still, check before firing) and ready for a piece of wick.



NOTE: these are nichrome coils; not kanthal, so please keep that in mind if you have problems with nickel-containing coils or similar products.

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-gallo...sor-95275.html

Thank you. I'll keep that in mind since we've got a local H.F. nearby.

TBH, completely happy with the dust cannon....err, Datavac.

Specs/quick rundown:

Metro Datavac ED-500;

500 watt motor
0.75 HP,120 volt,4.5 amps,70 CFM

Plus, it was a Christmas gift, so I really can't complain. It literally has significant recoil when you turn it on, though.

They're both about the same price when you look at the Datavac on Amazon, but it does depend on what you need it for.

I just need something I can wave around and laugh maniacally as dust explodes into the air.

It does get pretty hot after you use it for a few minutes though. There's all kinds of warnings about running it too long and a couple reviewers have learned the hard way; by literally getting burned by the scalding hot steel exterior.

I keep it on for no longer than a few minutes at a time, giving me ample time to clean the intake filter and allow it to cool simultaneously.

I try hard not to make any fans spin, because if they reverse-spin, it not only causes the LEDs to light up on the case fans, but it may cause damage to the poor quality fans I purchased.

It's harder keeping the PSU fan from moving, but it's very quiet as-is.

I should have changed out the TIM on my Sapphire 6850 to GC-Extreme, but unless I run F@H excessively, it stays pretty cool at stock. CPU doesn't really seem to need it, but the northbridge might benefit from an application.

It took me about 10 seconds to blast all of the hidden dust out of my GPU. It wasn't super-powered, but it was impressive enough that I'm considering taking it to work and blasting a bunch of latent dust loose before inspections.

...probably a bad idea. All the customers would suffocate in the resultant cloud of dust, and they'd probably have to call in servpro to clean up the fallout.

There seriously is that much dust. I doubt even an air compressor would do more than just shift it around from place to place, and since one of my allergies happens to be dust..... yeah.

We'll pretend this conversation never took place, and arm ourselves with dust masks.



Actually, TBH, it would be a bad idea for me. I would prefer that no fire ants (relentless little buggers) decide to make their home inside my computer while I'm trying to hold it down outside and blast the dust out of it. I'll probably just blast it out right before the next air filter change.

First on my list are that Ego-Ego adapter for the VAMO and a new Midi-stereo jack for my Audio-technica headphones, though.

 

[Jerms]

One of the extractions in my most recent batch of five pipe tobacco macerations is Hearth & Home Mazatec---a retail blend of Black Cav, Cyprian Latakia, and a little Virginia. On pipe blend review sites, H&H Mazatec is often noted to be closely similar to JustForHim's retail blend, Shortcut to Mushrooms. I've had a bottle of Dustmight's extract of that blend for awhile now (thanks, Dust!).

Sweet, smoky, and mushroomy. What an unusual mix of flavors! I have no idea, of course, how these retail tobacco blends taste when smoked in a pipe, but I have to admit that I'm not particularly drawn to either of them much as a natural tobacco extract vaping flavor. Imagine putting mushrooms and toasted marshmallows in a blender with a touch of liquid smoke, then using the purée to make soup. That's what both of these NETs remind me of when vaped. Nothing wrong with the quality of Dustmight's or my own extraction---to my palate, the mushroom flavor in Dustmight's Shortcut is somewhat more forward than in my Mazatec, which strikes me as a bit smokier. Both are sweet (presumably from the Black Cavendish) in a way that confuses me, since my brain expects savory with mushrooms.

Some other natural tobacco vapers might really like H&H Mazatec NET or Shortcut to Mushrooms---Jerms seems to have a certain qualified appreciation, which I assume to be more than mere diplomacy---but neither of them makes the cut as my personal cups of tea. I'm so spoiled by liking most of my homemade tobacco blend extracts that the occasional misfire is an odd experience, but that's to be expected.

Even with the name, Shortcut to Mushrooms, there's not a fungal shroominess that clicks with me in the flavor. I thought the shroom reference in the name would refer to the funkiness that black cav has, but that aspect of black cav isn't present here for me. I mainly get the creamy sweetness and the smokiness. That odd combo of sweet & smoky is weirdly enjoyable to me in about the same way as sweet & salty foods; such as chocolate covered potato chips and pineapple on pizza. Lots of people don't do the sweet & salty combo, and I imagine sweet & smoky would be tough sell to many too.

Pure Smoke from W2V does the sweet & smoky thing. That one really goes to the weird side, with that 'malty' spun-sugar type of sweet with the grotesque beauty of Paris. That one for me has a flavor that's delicious bordering on nasty. This Shortcut does a much more mild-mannered presentation, being something I think someone would either mildly enjoy or mildly dislike while Pure Smoke invokes stronger love it or hate it reactions. I love Pure and enjoy Shortcut while being easily able to understand opposite reactions to them.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Also, I forgot to note that Fasttech also sells pre-rolled coils for those of us who have difficulty coiling coils.

Pre-rolled in the correct resistance range (still, check before firing) and ready for a piece of wick.



NOTE: these are nichrome coils; not kanthal, so please keep that in mind if you have problems with nickel-containing coils or similar products.



Thank you. I'll keep that in mind since we've got a local H.F. nearby.

TBH, completely happy with the dust cannon....err, Datavac.

Specs/quick rundown:

Metro Datavac ED-500;

500 watt motor
0.75 HP,120 volt,4.5 amps,70 CFM

Plus, it was a Christmas gift, so I really can't complain. It literally has significant recoil when you turn it on, though.

They're both about the same price when you look at the Datavac on Amazon, but it does depend on what you need it for.

I just need something I can wave around and laugh maniacally as dust explodes into the air.

It does get pretty hot after you use it for a few minutes though. There's all kinds of warnings about running it too long and a couple reviewers have learned the hard way; by literally getting burned by the scalding hot steel exterior.

I keep it on for no longer than a few minutes at a time, giving me ample time to clean the intake filter and allow it to cool simultaneously.

I try hard not to make any fans spin, because if they reverse-spin, it not only causes the LEDs to light up on the case fans, but it may cause damage to the poor quality fans I purchased.

It's harder keeping the PSU fan from moving, but it's very quiet as-is.

I should have changed out the TIM on my Sapphire 6850 to GC-Extreme, but unless I run F@H excessively, it stays pretty cool at stock. CPU doesn't really seem to need it, but the northbridge might benefit from an application.

It took me about 10 seconds to blast all of the hidden dust out of my GPU. It wasn't super-powered, but it was impressive enough that I'm considering taking it to work and blasting a bunch of latent dust loose before inspections.

...probably a bad idea. All the customers would suffocate in the resultant cloud of dust, and they'd probably have to call in servpro to clean up the fallout.

There seriously is that much dust. I doubt even an air compressor would do more than just shift it around from place to place, and since one of my allergies happens to be dust..... yeah.

We'll pretend this conversation never took place, and arm ourselves with dust masks.



Actually, TBH, it would be a bad idea for me. I would prefer that no fire ants (relentless little buggers) decide to make their home inside my computer while I'm trying to hold it down outside and blast the dust out of it. I'll probably just blast it out right before the next air filter change.

First on my list are that Ego-Ego adapter for the VAMO and a new Midi-stereo jack for my Audio-technica headphones, though.

Before you go to HF, search for 'Harbor Freight 25% off Coupon' and get it cheaper

 

[regal55]

Also, I forgot to note that Fasttech also sells pre-rolled coils for those of us who have difficulty coiling coils.

Pre-rolled in the correct resistance range (still, check before firing) and ready for a piece of wick.



NOTE: these are nichrome coils; not kanthal, so please keep that in mind if you have problems with nickel-containing coils or similar products.



Thank you. .

Thanks for that link to the premade coils. I guess I'm not giving up on the Kayfun yet, today I took some xxanax right before building and they came out perfect 30 guage micro coils. But I went ahead and ordered the 30 guage 1.8 ohm coils. Wasn't sure what to get for my 3D dripper as I haven't used it yet. It takes me a half an hour just to get a decent coil so this fastech looks like a Godsend, I think I have the wicking figured out since moving to rayon. Touching cotton has always given me chills/heaby-cheabies, its almost like a cotton phobia.



I wanted to say I have been enjoying Dustmite's Orik w/Ace hops tonight. I like tangy tobacco vapes and this one is really nice and smooth, I think hops may be unexplored territory. I quit drinking but when I did I sought after the most hoppy micro-bre Pilsner I could find and this reminds me of that flavor you just can't get enough of.

 

[AnthonyB]

I have been trying a few things with mine because as it is, they are far too subtle for me but I hold out hope that time will make a difference. Though, having said that, I am mainly referring to the cigars. The Pipes so far are pretty strong in flavour. The Ashton shines like a beacon.

One of the things I have tried is to buy a kids milkshake maker to vigorously stir my juices. I paid $14 for it thanks to China. Not a bad investment at all. The idea of it was spawned from this very thread a few days ago and a linked video to the guy who uses twisted kanthal on a drill.

It has certainly helped a bit but I am not sure of the results as yet. It wasn't a magic bullet but it made a difference.

I have MVJ's whole Drew Estate Pipe line enroute. Plus, Cohiba Red Dot is on the way. The sucktastic part is I need to let everything sit at least two weeks.

Anybody have suggestions about what I should try first?

 

[AnthonyB]

Hey Mike,

I feel the same way about Ramon Bueso but in a strange, counter-negative way, I think this is a positive. Blueluceboy once put up a few reviews on MVJ's cigars and he rated many of them highly, but not the Ramon. He gave it 6 out of 10 where he gave others 8 or 9 out of 10. To me, this gives the rest of the batch some hope as the only fully steeped cigar I have right now is the Ramon Bueso.

I actually like the Ramon for a smooth all day vape as I mentioned in a more comprehensive review of it a couple of months ago.

What I am hoping for right now is that the rest aren't as subtle. I have yet to go through my batch but as a preliminary finding, the CAO Italia is kind of similar to the Ramon Bueso. Flavours are coming through but they are subtle, distant. A good vigorous shake under the kids milkshake nozzle has helped though.

I'm vaping on MVJ's Ramon Bueso The Project. I think this is the first MVJ cigar vape that I'm really just "eh" about. It is a medium bodied tobacco with natural sweetness. It is a thick creamy Connecticut taste that has a good presence. It just seems to lack the feisty nature I expected. I'm not getting any back notes of spice or earth. It is good and the flavor is enjoyable.

I think the issue is that the complexity of the analog just kind of flattens out. It becomes one whole flavor. The tastes of nutmeg, espresso, and earth blend together making an indistinct but tasty blend. It doesn't have anything popping out at the moment.

I really don't want to sound negative. It is a good tobacco. I think I just over hyped it in my mind coming in. I've heard great things about the analog. So, this juice had a big hill to climb.

 

[MikeNice81]

Hey Mike,

I feel the same way about Ramon Bueso but in a strange, counter-negative way, I think this is a positive. Blueluceboy once put up a few reviews on MVJ's cigars and he rated many of them highly, but not the Ramon. He gave it 6 out of 10 where he gave others 8 or 9 out of 10. To me, this gives the rest of the batch some hope as the only fully steeped cigar I have right now is the Ramon Bueso.

I actually like the Ramon for a smooth all day vape as I mentioned in a more comprehensive review of it a couple of months ago.

What I am hoping for right now is that the rest aren't as subtle. I have yet to go through my batch but as a preliminary finding, the CAO Italia is kind of similar to the Ramon Bueso. Flavours are coming through but they are subtle, distant. A good vigorous shake under the kids milkshake nozzle has helped though.

The CAO Italia actually will become a reorder for me. When you get the shake, head, and wattage right, the blend is awesome. It is like being stuck in the friend zone. You know something awesome is there, when it chooses to show itself. It is a relentless flirt that keeps you chasing and hoping to wrap your hands around the awesome again. I have burnt through 16ml in just a short time.

The Ramon Bueso started coming together around 8.5 watts. There was a bit of earth and nut coming through in a distinct way. So, I ran it up to 9.5 watts. Really it just got warmer and lost the better part of the tobacco taste.

 

[rabernet]

Also, I forgot to note that Fasttech also sells pre-rolled coils for those of us who have difficulty coiling coils.

Pre-rolled in the correct resistance range (still, check before firing) and ready for a piece of wick.



NOTE: these are nichrome coils; not kanthal, so please keep that in mind if you have problems with nickel-containing coils or similar products.

You can also get some domestically - also nichrome - but less of a delivery wait.

Rebuildable Atomizer Coils - Avid Vaper

 

[Midniteoyl]

You can also get some domestically - also nichrome - but less of a delivery wait.

Rebuildable Atomizer Coils - Avid Vaper

$1 + shipping each? Ouch..

 

[Reddhott]

i think its a very well blended net.
i just love it.

Redd, what is the tobacco taste that comes through? Their site describes it as a "very smooth mix of flavored Black Cavendish, Virginia and Burley." Is there one tobacco that stands out over the others, or is it just a nice, blended taste? Thanks.

 

[AnthonyB]

The Cavendish starts flavor starts coming thru after steeping a couple weeks, its one of my favorite vapes. Would be my ADV if it weren't so expensive and they sold big bottles.


I have a question, I've about given up on my Kayfunlite builds, just don't have the dexterity for it. Spent 2 hours for two tanks yesterday, life is too short.

Can anyone recommend a natural tobacco for an ADV that doesn't clog coils. My tastes lead toward Cavendish and Ry4's, sweeter tobacco I guess. I made a net out of Newminster Superior but a 5 micron filter isn't enough to keep kanger (aerotank) coils clean.

I hope no one beat me to punch...

There just so happens to be one vendor that uses a wonderful steam distillation technique to produce flavorful NETs that are as clean on coils as synthetics.

It's called Ahlusion. Give them a try


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