Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

[Jerms]

Mine is here today, but it's at my other house. I will get it as soon as I can. Thanks for the tips.

One day I'd like to say "it's at my other house".

Man, perfect coil in a minute, no need to fire and squeeze anything together. Perfect coil with two perfectly straight legs ready to install. I don't need to rebuild much, but that was so fun I wanna do more lol. Maybe I'll make some Kanthal jewelery.

 

[BecknCO]

Oh yeah, BecknCo,


Artistic Wire's Coiling Gizmo Deluxe Econo Winder - Lima Beads

They are out-of-stock now, but sign up for the notify. Man, I bet the owner of that store is wondering why that jig is flying off the shelves! Vapers pounce, don't we? LOL

Oh yeah! I jumped all over that thing when Jerms posted it in the A+ thread - mine is out for delivery today too

Looks like you're down with the Latakia dropkick. That opens up options for similar awesome vapes down the road. Be sure to pick up Apache from MOV and Balkan from NETcom.

28ga will be much easier to wrap than 32ga. Twisted wire like you made is a solid option too, a lot of people swear by it.

That's awesome to know, because I just so happen to have a bottle of Balkan I haven't tried yet (thanks Mann). That plus hearing how much Dusty couldn't live without Apache for a while has me very interested in both!

I also found a video on making the twisted 32guage with a drill today. Man...that would've saved me some time last night lol.

It was funny how when I checked the A+ site today - sure enough DD! has Virginia, Latakia, Burley, and Perique in it. I think my taste buds are finally coming around, which I'm pretty excited about.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Try some of the ones from Caterpillarvapes. Flue-cured, usa-mix, etc...But yeah, not a NET.

Bill has likely had any liquid you can think of, and Hangsen is the same no matter where you buy it. I was actually thinking about picking up a $3 10 mL of Flue-Cured. I think I liked that one.

Anywho, I can't stop thinking about that session of RBFS yesterday. I mean, I never want to be, or will be a several-mL-a-day consumer of heavy NETs (don't want to get into why), but it will be nice to be able to do it as I please. Man, the whole shop yesterday smelled like a fine pipe-smoker's den. It was truly something to behold. Maybe I will be able to recreate that occasionally. 'Twould be nice.

 

[Jerms]

Oh yeah! I jumped all over that thing when Jerms posted it in the A+ thread - mine is out for delivery today too



That's awesome to know, because I just so happen to have a bottle of Balkan I haven't tried yet (thanks Mann). That plus hearing how much Dusty couldn't live without Apache for a while has me very interested in both!

I also found a video on making the twisted 32guage with a drill today. Man...that would've saved me some time last night lol.

It was funny how when I checked the A+ today - sure enough DD! has Virginia, Latakia, Burley, and Perique in it. I think my taste buds are finally coming around, which I'm pretty geeked about. I also found a video on making the twisted 32guage with a power drill today. Man...that would've saved me some time last night instead of the sloppy job I did by hand winding it.

Expect some candy too if you got it from that Lima Beads place, I got (had) Twizzlers

Yeah, it's cool when you start being able to pick out the tobaccos by flavor! It's fun to try to find the individual tobaccos in the multi-leaf blends. Latakia's the easiest to find.. yep, there's Latakia.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Expect some candy too if you got it from that Lima Beads place, I got (had) Twizzlers

Yeah, it's cool when you start being able to pick out the tobaccos by flavor! It's fun to try to find the individual tobaccos in the multi-leaf blends. Latakia's the easiest to find.. yep, there's Latakia.

Jerms, Porch Rocker is so balanced because it is pre-blended, not an after-extraction blend like a few others we have tried. Not saying all of the English NET blends are done that way, but Porch Rocker may be one of the better ones.

Note: Brian said there is actually more Latakia in PR than Perique, but I think Perique tones down the Latakia (which is quite remarkable considering how potent Latakia is). I told him the Perique was acting like a wet blanket over (the fire of) Latakia.

p.s. IGO-S is on its way!

 

[billherbst]

Try some of the ones from Caterpillarvapes. Flue-cured, usa-mix, etc...But yeah, not a NET.

I have the Hangsen Essence flavoring concentrates for RY4 and Turkish Blended. They're extremely good synthetic tobacco flavorings in my opinion. I may get the flue-cured concentrate at some point. I never liked USA Mix from any source---Hangsen, Dekang, etc.---wrong flavor profile for my palate. Same with all the Marlboro take-offs.

 

[Jerms]

On the phone with Mike from Giant Vapes and he's telling me that HoL (EBaron) has had to discontinue Brasilero because one of the flavorings is too hard to source (or something to that effect). He said that if HoL manages to get back up and running with that flavor then he will carry it again, but as of now, it appears it's gone for good.

Mann, that sucks about Brasilero. I do see Giant carries a different NET from eBaron, Cigare de Paris. Have you tried that one?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Mann, that sucks about Brasilero. I do see Giant carries a different NET from eBaron, Cigare de Paris. Have you tried that one?

No, have not had that one but they sure make it look good. Well, HoL has always been superb at making the DESCRIPTION look good. It got to a point where I couldn't allow myself to read their write-ups. But with Brasilero, no write-up was good enough.

 

[Jerms]

I wrote to Trabuco yesterday seeing if they'll be offering smaller size bottles or sample packs for the internet sales (I know 30ml of a new juice is a hard sell to a lot of us to try a new juice, it's not like we can sample first like at a B&M). They said that's something they're discussing doing, but for now are trying to keep things simple for the start. I subscribed to the newsletter to stay updated.

Chas (hehe.. Chas) said they sincerely appreciated the feedback from us concerning our reaction to the site, they are open to hear opinions from an outside perspective. I thought that was pretty cool, gotta give props for that.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I wrote to Trabuco yesterday seeing if they'll be offering smaller size bottles or sample packs for the internet sales (I know 30ml of a new juice is a hard sell to a lot of us to try a new juice, it's not like we can sample first like at a B&M). They said that's something they're discussing doing, but for now are trying to keep things simple for the start. I subscribed to the newsletter to stay updated.

Chas (hehe.. Chas) said they sincerely appreciated the feedback from us concerning our reaction to the site, they are open to hear opinions from an outside perspective. I thought that was pretty cool, gotta give props for that.

For what it's worth, I am intrigued just based off of the site (including pics/descriptions). And as far as not offering samples, well, I can understand that, but they should know that there is really no reason for many of us to go try them without that option -- there's just too many other options from other vendors. At the very least they could have a limited-time offer of samples, but it is their prerogative of course to conduct their business as they choose.

A forum friend and I jumped all over HoL awhile back without trying samples (back when all they had was the big bottles) and I will never do it again without a less risky way in.

 

[Jerms]

For what it's worth, I am intrigued just based off of the site (including pics/descriptions). And as far as not offering samples, well, I can understand that, but they should know that there is really no reason for many of us to go try them without that option -- there's just too many other options from other vendors. At the very least they could have a limited-time offer of samples, but it is their prerogative of course to conduct their business as they choose.

A forum friend and I jumped all over HoL awhile back without trying samples (back when all they had was the big bottles) and I will never do it again without a less risky way in.

Yeah, I wrote back saying small bottles or sample packs is a big thing to get new people on board over the internet, which I'm sure they know.

With the huge growth of B&M stores it's becoming more common for new juice manufacturers to put that first and internet sales second, hence the big, nice glass bottles becoming more popular. We certainly aren't in a drought of great internet juice vendors, but it's still disheartening to discover what sounds like potentially great juice but find out it's not really catered to us internet juice buyers.

With Trabuco it seems they intend to cater to both, just may take some time for it to come together. If it doesn't, meh, my juice list to try is still a neverending list.

With HoL, they came out at a time when there was much less NET options, which I think is why many of here jumped on that chance to try a new NET vendor even if we had to pay to play.

 

[MFToms59]

Oh yeah, BecknCo,


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They are out-of-stock now, but sign up for the notify. Man, I bet the owner of that store is wondering why that jig is flying off the shelves! Vapers pounce, don't we? LOL

A little more pricy but usually in stock at hobby lobby. But you can apply 40% coupon. Coupon - Hobby Lobby
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[Mr.Mann]

Yeah, I wrote back saying small bottles or sample packs is a big thing to get new people on board over the internet, which I'm sure they know.

With the huge growth of B&M stores it's becoming more common for new juice manufacturers to put that first and internet sales second, hence the big, nice glass bottles becoming more popular. We certainly aren't in a drought of great internet juice vendors, but it's still disheartening to discover what sounds like potentially great juice but find out it's not really catered to us internet juice buyers.

With Trabuco it seems they intend to cater to both, just may take some time for it to come together. If it doesn't, meh, my juice list to try is still a neverending list.

With HoL, they came out at a time when there was much less NET options, which I think is why many of here jumped on that chance to try a new NET vendor even if we had to pay to play.

Sharp points as always, Jerms!

What's funny though is that since HoL is now doing samples, I will be getting some more at some point. I want to try all the Cellar liquids, but I sure don't need hundreds of mL to start.

 

[Jerms]

Sharp points as always, Jerms!

What's funny though is that since HoL is now doing samples, I will be getting some more at some point. I want to try all the Cellar liquids, but I sure don't need hundreds of mL to start.

Yeah I want to try those two, and a couple El Toros were reorders for me.. Virginia Prime, Eden.

Starting on Natural Virginia from PV right now, it's certainly no Virginia Prime, but it's not bad.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Yeah I want to try those two, and a couple El Toros were reorders for me.. Virginia Prime, Eden.

Starting on Natural Virginia from PV right now, it's certainly no Virginia Prime, but it's not bad.

Until Wlad makes and apple aro, Eden reigns supreme in my book. (Sorry to those that love Apple Cured, Apple Wild Wood or whatever, I just don't think they come close to Eden.)

 

[EleanorR]

Until Wlad makes and apple aro, Eden reigns supreme in my book. (Sorry to those that love Apple Cured, Apple Wild Wood or whatever, I just don't think they come close to Eden.)

You know, I'm just not a fan of any of Wlad's apple flavors (other than Ginger Apple Tea).

Ducks and runs . . . . .

 

[Mr.Mann]

You know, I'm just not a fan of any of Wlad's apple flavors (other than Ginger Apple Tea).

Ducks and runs . . . . .

Achilles is an unwanted child. LOL

 

[Jerms]

You know, I'm just not a fan of any of Wlad's apple flavors (other than Ginger Apple Tea).

Ducks and runs . . . . .

Phphphphphphphph

I done don't care what any of yous says. Apple Wild Wood is awesome.

 

[Jerms]

Natural Virginia by Prime Vaping, mix date december 3, extra flavor, 70% PG.

When it comes to single varietal NETs, Virginia is one of my favorite leaves by itself. It's so leafy and green, with a nice natural sweetness. More than any other leaf, it brings to mind fresh tobacco for me.

After vaping Natural Virginia by PV for several hours, I kind of really really like. It's better than their Natural Tobacco, has more flavor and to me a better flavor. I'm not sure if it starts out this way or steeped this way, but for me it's a top notch vape.

Kind of an odd thing, but there's this certain sweet note that comes out of nowhere once in a while that's amazing. I shook the bottle up really well but I can't get that flavor note to stick. Not sure why it's sporadic. The bottle is going quick as I chase it.

I had ordered a bigger bottle of the Natural Tobacco, but I wish it was Natural Virginia I ordered more of. I'll probably order it again, and maybe try a couple more of PV's NETs. While they aren't spectacular, they are better than I expected. I would like to do a head-to-head with Natural Virginia and Virginia Prime from HoL.

 

[jefsview]

I dripped some Fire-Cured Burley (extra flavor/heat extracted, 30Pg/70VG, 24mg nic) from NET.com yesterday and enjoyed it. I was expecting a smokiness, but it was more leathery tobacco with a sweet note tucked in the background. I didn't expect the leather note from it, from previous tobacco blends I attributed the leather notes to Latakia. This was my first taste of pure Burley and quite enjoyed it.

Still making my way through some samples of TINO's and synthetics I was gifted; I may have mentioned my disappointment in the Vermillion Rivers Maplewood; I also just sampled some Millennium Potion "Tobacco" that tasted like a light beer, not bacco. Flue-Cured Tobacco from Juice Mafia was decent, and is apparently the base to some of their fruit tobaccos; there is a savory/sour note to it, so I can't see it playing all that great with a sweet fruit, but it must work since their Peach Tobacco is popular.

I'm still perfecting my Kayfun builds as well. After 3 tankfuls, I began getting less and less out of Heavenly ARMY, so I broke it down and the coil/wick was nasty. The wick was too long and blocked off some airflow. So I trimmed it back a bit more, dry burned the coil and all is well.

I haven't need to rebuild my drippers in over a month -- once you get the build perfected, it just keeps delivering. The only one I'n not satisfied with is the dual coil inside the SCAR. Just takes too long to heat up, since I wanted to keep it around an ohm or 1.3. So I plan on ripping that build out and slapping a single coil that will satisfy.

I've enjoyed the RBFS discussion.