Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

[jefsview]

I just put on my Organic #1, which I have reloaded in an iclear16... and yes, it does have that leathery note... but with the blending of the Burleys, it plays differently that the straight Fire-Cure Burley from NET.com.Organic #1 is a bit sweeter, smoother.

More than likely, I'm just picking more notes out now.

 

[vjc0628]

I dripped some Fire-Cured Burley (extra flavor/heat extracted, 30Pg/70VG, 24mg nic) from NET.com yesterday and enjoyed it. I was expecting a smokiness, but it was more leathery tobacco with a sweet note tucked in the background. I didn't expect the leather note from it, from previous tobacco blends I attributed the leather notes to Latakia. This was my first taste of pure Burley and quite enjoyed it.

Still making my way through some samples of TINO's and synthetics I was gifted; I may have mentioned my disappointment in the Vermillion Rivers Maplewood; I also just sampled some Millennium Potion "Tobacco" that tasted like a light beer, not bacco. Flue-Cured Tobacco from juice Mafia was decent, and is apparently the base to some of their fruit tobaccos; there is a savory/sour note to it, so I can't see it playing all that great with a sweet fruit, but it must work since their Peach Tobacco is popular.

I'm still perfecting my kayfun builds as well. After 3 tankfuls, I began getting less and less out of Heavenly ARMY, so I broke it down and the coil/wick was nasty. The wick was too long and blocked off some airflow. So I trimmed it back a bit more, dry burned the coil and all is well.

I haven't need to rebuild my drippers in over a month -- once you get the build perfected, it just keeps delivering. The only one I'n not satisfied with is the dual coil inside the SCAR. Just takes too long to heat up, since I wanted to keep it around an ohm or 1.3. So I plan on ripping that build out and slapping a single coil that will satisfy.

I've enjoyed the RBFS discussion.

I cant get satisfaction from duel coil dripper over 1 ohm

the single coils work great above 1.2 though

 

[Jerms]

Sweet-Vapes wrote to me that their signature tobacco line is extracts.. that's as much as they are willing to reveal. Organic Tobacco says it's extracted in-house while none of the others in that line say that, which doesn't mean they aren't I just find it odd. The lack of descriptions for the flavors and the tight-lipped response has me losing interest in trying them.

The email said it's listed in the ingredients page under the about us at the top of the site, but I'm not finding any such page. Anyone see the page that referred to?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Sweet-Vapes wrote to me that their signature tobacco line is extracts.. that's as much as they are willing to reveal. Organic Tobacco says it's extracted in-house while none of the others in that line say that, which doesn't mean they aren't I just find it odd. The lack of descriptions for the flavors and the tight-lipped response has me losing interest in trying them.

The email said it's listed in the ingredients page under the about us at the top of the site, but I'm not finding any such page. Anyone see the page that referred to?

Speaking of a "lack of descriptions," I was thinking that a possible cool category for the NETtys (or maybe just an unnecessary category) would be to see who has the best descriptions of their NETs. I dunno, but I think more than just a marketing/sales pitch, a good description is what can get the conversation rolling.

 

[johni]

Sweet-Vapes wrote to me that their signature tobacco line is extracts.. that's as much as they are willing to reveal. Organic Tobacco says it's extracted in-house while none of the others in that line say that, which doesn't mean they aren't I just find it odd. The lack of descriptions for the flavors and the tight-lipped response has me losing interest in trying them.

The email said it's listed in the ingredients page under the about us at the top of the site, but I'm not finding any such page. Anyone see the page that referred to?

From Sweet Vapes Website, About Us, Ingredients:

Signature Tobacco Blends – All of our signature tobacco flavors are made in house, extracted from additive free natural or certified organic tobacco. The strength of the finished flavoring is slightly different for each batch, so there may be slight variations to the strength of the finished product. Every recipe is tested, and adjusted, for each batch to make it as close to the control as possible. The products listed under ‘signature tobacco’ are the house extracted flavors, while the products listed under ‘tobacco’ are made from commercial flavorings.

 

[KC33]

Hey gang, well I gave Legend another shot tonight and I'm enjoying it way more than when I first got it. The tobacco has come to the forefront and the sweetness has faded dramatically. I'm starting to get why a lot of folks like this juice, what a difference a few weeks make. (sometimes)
Looks like I'm going to have to give GJe and RBFS perique a shot after reading the last few pages. I like the touch of perique in Patriot and want to compare these two with Devil Dog.

Oh speaking of which, what's with Ahl and the aros? I'm jonesin, lol.

 

[Jerms]

From Sweet Vapes Website, About Us, Ingredients:

Signature Tobacco Blends – All of our signature tobacco flavors are made in house, extracted from additive free natural or certified organic tobacco. The strength of the finished flavoring is slightly different for each batch, so there may be slight variations to the strength of the finished product. Every recipe is tested, and adjusted, for each batch to make it as close to the control as possible. The products listed under ‘signature tobacco’ are the house extracted flavors, while the products listed under ‘tobacco’ are made from commercial flavorings.

Thanks John!

 

[Jerms]

Speaking of a "lack of descriptions," I was thinking that a possible cool category for the NETtys (or maybe just an unnecessary category) would be to see who has the best descriptions of their NETs. I dunno, but I think more than just a marketing/sales pitch, a good description is what can get the conversation rolling.

MOV is my personal favorite for their tobacco descriptions.

 

[vjc0628]

Hey gang, well I gave Legend another shot tonight and I'm enjoying it way more than when I first got it. The tobacco has come to the forefront and the sweetness has faded dramatically. I'm starting to get why a lot of folks like this juice, what a difference a few weeks make. (sometimes)
Looks like I'm going to have to give GJe and RBFS perique a shot after reading the last few pages. I like the touch of perique in Patriot and want to compare these two with Devil Dog.

Oh speaking of which, what's with Ahl and the aros? I'm jonesin, lol.

Yea me too Should be in a week or 2

Its a pain but whatever they need to do to make the magic
I'm impatiently ok with

 

[Mr.Mann]

MOV is my personal favorite for their tobacco descriptions.

See, and now I have to go read them. I think many vendors fall flat on their face with descriptions. Of course that doesn't change the outcome, but it should be part of the experience. When I go to a restaurant and ask about a dish, I don't just want to hear, "it's meat and vegetables."

 

[Jerms]

See, and now I have to go read them. I think many vendors fall flat on their face with descriptions. Of course that doesn't change the outcome, but it should be part of the experience. When I go to a restaurant and ask about a dish, I don't just want to hear, "it's meat and vegetables."

Check out all the NET descriptions at MOV, extemely impressive, from where flavors are coming from, the exact leaves used, what to expect.

When vendors leaves the descriptions almost blank like Sweet-Vapes, it's like they don't realize we're blind buying these since we can't sample it first. Give me a general idea of the flavor at the least! What are you going for with this flavor?

 

[jefsview]

Far too many vendors fail at accurate descriptions, let alone detailed descriptions. NET vendors are just as guilty. If not for this thread, and reviews, I wouldn't have ordered what I did from many a place, since their descriptions were so vague, uninteresting or confusing.

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

Oh my. This Patriot NET stuff is.. is... it's just wonderful. Open the windows folks.

Ya'll are a big help with this stuff.

 

[TheKiwi]

It is a very very good vape. Still remember first vaping it after the kind folks here recommended it to me. Oh, good times.

Although right now it's kinda tough to pay it any attention with Smooth Criminal being sucha clingy thing


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[billherbst]

Because Sweet-Vapes NETs came up for a bit of discussion in the thread today, I searched through my juice cabinets and retrieved my two-year-old bottle of Mapacho Tobacco for a re-visit.

Mapacho is a "sacred" tobacco used in rituals by native shamans in indigenous South American cultures. It's generally sold uncut in rolls that look like multi-colored cigars (called "masatos"). Sweet-Vapes sells a juice made from authentic Mapacho extract made from an in-house maceration. No other flavorings are used in the juice, as far as I know. It's "pure" NET.

When my particular bottle was new and fresh, Mapacho was an interesting but odd NET. I could call it unique to give a positive spin, or idiosyncratic to be neutral, or perhaps eccentric to impart a slight negative judgment. I vaped about half the 30ml bottle over the first six months I had it, but other, more pleasing NETs came along, so my bottle of Mapacho was eventually relegated to long-term storage, i.e., the juice dungeon.

Vaping it again tonight was a revelation. I don't know how to describe the oddness of the flavor profile, but the eccentricity of the flavor had vanished completely with prolonged steeping. What was left is a delicious NET with a lovely tobacco taste, and no oddness at all. The flavor tonight is medium tobacco with a bite, yet with considerable subtlety. The Mapacho is still its own creature, and i think is probably better vaped alone than it would be in a blend. Mixing it with other tobaccos or non-tobacco flavorings would diminish the new flavor profile, which is now just unique enough to be special without stretching one's palate.

I'm shocked, actually, to discover such a tasty NET lurking in my stash. I write "discover" rather than "re-discover" because two years ago, my Mapacho didn't taste like it does now. As a result, I can't urge my NETizen comrades to rush over to the Sweet-Vapes web site to order a bottle, since what they'd get might not taste like what I'm vaping now. I should emphasize that it wasn't bad when fresh, just different and unique. Now that it has "matured," however, it's a very solid citizen, and a juice I'll enjoy vaping from here on out until the bottle is empty. Since I still have 15mls and vape many different and wonderful juices every day, that should take a good long time.

 

[Jerms]

Because Sweet-Vapes NETs came up for a bit of discussion in the thread today, I searched through my juice cabinets and retrieved my two-year-old bottle of Mapacho Tobacco for a re-visit.

Mapacho is a "sacred" tobacco used in rituals by native shamans in indigenous South American cultures. It's generally sold uncut in rolls that look like multi-colored cigars (called "masatos"). Sweet-Vapes sells a juice made from authentic Mapacho extract made from an in-house maceration. No other flavorings are used in the juice, as far as I know. It's "pure" NET.

When my particular bottle was new and fresh, Mapacho was an interesting but odd NET. I could call it unique to give a positive spin, or idiosyncratic to be neutral, or perhaps eccentric to impart a slight negative judgment. I vaped about half the 30ml bottle over the first six months I had it, but other, more pleasing NETs came along, so my bottle of Mapacho was eventually relegated to long-term storage, i.e., the juice dungeon.

Vaping it again tonight was a revelation. I don't know how to describe the oddness of the flavor profile, but the eccentricity of the flavor had vanished completely with prolonged steeping. What was left is a delicious NET with a lovely tobacco taste, and no oddness at all. The flavor tonight is medium tobacco with a bite, yet with considerable subtlety. The Mapacho is still its own creature, and i think is probably better vaped alone than it would be in a blend. Mixing it with other tobaccos or non-tobacco flavorings would diminish the new flavor profile, which is now just unique enough to be special without stretching one's palate.

I'm shocked, actually, to discover such a tasty NET lurking in my stash. I write "discover" rather than "re-discover" because two years ago, my Mapacho didn't taste like it does now. As a result, I can't urge my NETizen comrades to rush over to the Sweet-Vapes web site to order a bottle, since what they'd get might not taste like what I'm vaping now. I should emphasize that it wasn't bad when fresh, just different and unique. Now that it has "matured," however, it's a very solid citizen, and a juice I'll enjoy vaping from here on out until the bottle is empty. Since I still have 15mls and vape many different and wonderful juices every day, that should take a good long time.

Ok, after reading John's showing of the page at the site that explains they are all in-house extractions in that line, and this post, I'm interested again lol. But only kinda. I don't feel like adding them to my list, but if a sweet sale pops up I may jump on it, they are kind of expensive. Otherwise I'll wait for a time when I just really want to try a NET vendor I haven't tried yet.

 

[Dusty_D]

Hey Mr. Mann, remember this conversation?!

Would you please, please take a picture of the inside of the chimney and the coil for us? Please?! I'd love to see how it looks after 6 - 6.5ml have gone through it.

I've posted this before, but this was in my twisted coil stage, and after slightly less than one tank of one of my heavy hitters.

It looks like a freaking burnt lobster on there.

I can usually go atleast 3 tanks or so with HHV Nets. They don't get "gunked" up like the one I posted, but instead they kinda go like how papabogart described Boba's. The wicks almost get coated, and do not wick as well as when fresh.

with the Non-Nets, I usually feel the compulsion to change the wick/coil way before it's needed. Wicks usually look clean when I change them out.

When you can, take a pic of the differences; I would love to see.

Here's a Huntsman wick/coil that I built on the 4th of this month and just got done swapping out. This is from my Work/travel KFL. One week and perhaps around 12 - 15ml approximately of Huntsman through it.

Here's the wick itself after removal from the coil

I've been steadily vaping this on the KFL in the 9.5W range.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Any questions? Nope! LOL. That says it all. Now, I just wish we had more super-clean burning NET options like that!

 

[Jerms]

And now, for your entertainment, the second NETty Awards are now......................... OPEN!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12200694

 

[Jerms]

Dagwood's Wife is Trippin' by River Bottom is an extraction of ACID Blondie cigars.

A Blondie is a Blondie right? I'm not so sure, I'd have to vape The Blond from W2V or H+ Yellow Mane from NETcom alongside this one to answer that. I had The Blond first, and when I later had H+ I was able to say with confidence; yep, same juice. I don't get that same reaction with DWiT.

I don't know, tastes change so easily depending on a million factors, I can't say with confidence this is different. Based purely on memory and how this is tasting now, it's different to me. Smoother, less intense on the incense notes and more cigar type feel coming through. To put plainly, I have a feeling this one is better, but I wouldn't swear to it.

I CAN say with confidence, I loved the first two Blondie cigar NETs I've had, and I also love DWiT. I also can say you will pay a lot more to get this one.