Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux
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I really want to try some of their Ecuador Ligero, which should be aged and cured. I have enjoyed the "Ruins" cigar from NET.com. Out of roughly 15 NET liquids I have tried so far from NET.com, that Ligero leaf is my favorite.
Whats the problem with fire curred tobaccos. I asked because i have no real idea which tobacco i have to buy for my first ethanol heat extraction. I like the sun curred turkish, all the burley, all virginias and 3crown too from net.com very much. I think, i did not like latakia and perique. I want to have some very strong flavours. What would you buy ?
Do someone know these sellers ?
Whole Leaf Tobacco Only - Turkish oriental
Flue Cured Whole Leaf - PureLeaf
I am searching in europe because i am german. But usa is also okay if its a very good tobacco.
My 1st extractions were using leaf from wholeleaftobaccoonly.com; it was their Red Virginia that made Me realise that DIY extractions were viable! TBH, if I had n't found this Forum, I probably would n't have thought of using pipe tobacco! If You use wholeleaf, I'd recommend cold maceration & using the concentrate at at least 30% (I've gone to 50% before...) & a 50PG/50VG Ratio to counteract any bitterness. I, personally, have been happy with My results extracting from wholeleaf......BUT...I've never had the chance to sample the juices made by some of the old hands on here........!
No, the RV was the 1st leaf that I tried...using heat & VG. It was ok, but seemed a little 'bitter'...which I put down to the heat (certainly was n't due to the VG!!..) The 2nd attempt was therefore tried in PG & cold, with better results.
I've stuck to cold macerations in PG since....I like 'set & forget' procedures 'cos I'm lazy!!!
I've also used Havana, Dominican, Colombian, Brazilian, Brightleaf Virg. & Burley...all from 20g. samples from www.wholeleaftobaccoonly.co.uk ; before going on to pipe tobacco
Nets...nets...nets...have 120ml of various nets steeping, another 90ml in post...but I am not vaping them...yet...in an attempt to be disciplined I Vaped through 10ml of a menthol net (good'ish but I prefer it pure) and am now finishing of around 30ml of non-net juice the drawer.
I feel good in that I am making way for a net only juice box, ok Manabush noximis and nJoys Hedons Hote may be allowed for the subtank, but man do I crave a 'proper' Vape.
Now the non-net juices are not bad per say, but after a few months of pretty much net only they taste of chemicals...
Just a few more days...and I can then get stuck in, HoL, Black Note & net.com...bliss.
I feel good in that I am making way for a net only juice box, ok Manabush noximis and nJoys Hedons Hote may be allowed for the subtank, but man do I crave a 'proper' Vape.
Now the non-net juices are not bad per say, but after a few months of pretty much net only they taste of chemicals...
Just a few more days...and I can then get stuck in, HoL, Black Note & net.com...bliss.
Johnny, the lack of time is a big part of why I am not as involved with home made NETs. I work full time and have an 80 minute commute to work.
The process is fairly simple but you need patience to let the NET mature. First one needs to wait for the NET to mature so that could be 6-8 weeks cold extracted or a few days with heat extraction.
After one has extracted there NET is when the real work will be done and it can be time consuming. Filtration of the extract, mixing with PG/VG and then bottling takes time. I spent more than a day filtering and bottling and then there is the checking of the extract all the time, especially if you are heat extracting. You've got to keep your eye on it and check it every couple of hours. I experienced a lot of sticky juice stained fingers when bottling. Maybe I am just not cut out for it. It most certainly is a labor of love. You've got to love doing it. Wanting to save some money won't be enough to produce a worthy NET that competes with the commercial vendors.
It also takes a bit of experience getting the filtration right and ensuring as much of the remaining particulates don't end up in your juice.
In Australia tobacco is more expensive and unlike the Americans we don't have a great deal of boutique tobacconists that stock a wide range of tobaccos which can be bought in smaller quantities. The smallest quantity of a pipe tobacco we can source in Australia is a 50 gram tin that costs about $45. This means it is not conducive to trial and error as would be the case where someone in the US or another tobacco friendly country can get small pouches of tobacco and experiment with a batch of NETs to see how it works out.
I made a few batches last year and wasn't pleased with the outcome. I spent $150 on tobaccos and ended up smoking half of it (lol). If the batch came out as I anticipated I was going to share it with my NET friends but alas, it was sub- standard. I might go back to my extractions and sample them again. Maybe time has helped the extracts to mature but I am not holding my breath.
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Madness.
I cant believe this. In germany its only 5 euro for 30g. Poor australians ! Smoking only for the rich people. Traveling 80 minutes is hard. How long is your daily way or are you driving by kangeroo express ? 
It must hard to be an australian. All the time standing and walking on head. Working, travelling, eating, shi.. and working. Yes time seems to be a big problem for you. What do you do to make money ? Selling tobacco ? You all have infected me to have a try at my first own extraction. I am asking questions in Str8visions thread
Tobacco extraction using heated Ethanol
Its very interesting, because i want the big warm volume and strengh of heat extraction. His freezing method is cooool ! I must try this. I am searching know for the tobaccos Str8vision has written about and i have to look that their is no latakia or perique in it. From net.com i liked most all burley, virginias and the turkish. Also the 3crown, but cigar extraction should not be very sucessfull.
Sutliff "Voodoo Queen"
Dunhill "Nightcap"
Hearth and Home "Louisiana Red"
The Smoker "St. James"
Cornell & Diehl "Mississippi Mud"
Cornell & Diehl "Sunset Harbor Flake"
Cornell & Diehl "Billy Bud"
Samuel Gawith Full Virginia Flake
I am convenient if i can buy some from them, because not all usa sellers are shipping outside of the usa. Organic american spirit is also interesting, because i am smoking this tobacco. But their must be a diffence between good tobaccos for smoking and extracting. What do you think about ? I will buy a sous-vide. It have a temperature control with 24h timer. Do you have also good proposals for tobaccos to extract ? Your taste is very similar. Talking with you is funny. You are a kind of gourmet teacher for me, because your award list was great. Before this i didnt believe that i will find such good nets. It becomes to be a funny hobby for me.
Really? I don't think it takes much time at all. I also work a full time job and have two 4 year olds. Trust me, free time is at a premium. And running a couple extracts demands very little of me. Most of the process is set it and forget it.
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Johnny, I know H&H Louisiana Red is virginia and perique because it is one of my favorite home extractions (heat/slow cooker method, filtered with a French Press coffee maker and 5 micron felt filters). Just a note if you do not like perique.
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Dunhill's Nightcap is one of my top favorites but it also has perique and Latakia: Dunhill Nightcap - PipesandCigars.com
As does Mississippi Mud: Cornell & Diehl Mississippi Mud - PipesandCigars.com
Billy Bud has Latakia: Cornell & Diehl Billy Budd - PipesandCigars.com
Sunset Harbor too: Cornell & Diehl Sunset Harbor Flake - PipesandCigars.com
All of these sound wonderful to me but I like perique and darker tobaccos.
Good luck with the extracting.
Yes, i like the virginias from Clay at net.com very much. I have tried his flue cured and the pure virginia.
I am thinking that a do not like latakia because i did not like the bombay and balkan from Clay. They have tasted like fir needles for me. Perique, i am not sure. I have only perique from HOL and i did not like.
Hi and please forgive me if this isn't the right place to post my question and kindly point me to the right section. I am one day into vaping and 1 day under my belt without smoking.
I just picked up equipment and some liquids made by Texas Select Vaper. Only tobacco flavors
Eventually I want to make my own, but later for that.
What I need now is something that taste like tobacco. This stuff has a sickly sweet smell and taste, kind of like pipe tobacco. Its making my stomach feel a tad off.
FYI I smoked, as of yesterday morning, Organic American Spirit loose rolling tobacco, no filter. What I need are suggestions on a few others that I could order that might get a bit closer to what I want it to taste like.
I prefer not to use much PG, but someone said that all or high VG could be causing the sweet smell and flavor. Gosh I hope thats not the case. That will put me between a rock and a hard place.
I just picked up equipment and some liquids made by Texas Select Vaper. Only tobacco flavors
Eventually I want to make my own, but later for that.
What I need now is something that taste like tobacco. This stuff has a sickly sweet smell and taste, kind of like pipe tobacco. Its making my stomach feel a tad off.
FYI I smoked, as of yesterday morning, Organic American Spirit loose rolling tobacco, no filter. What I need are suggestions on a few others that I could order that might get a bit closer to what I want it to taste like.
I prefer not to use much PG, but someone said that all or high VG could be causing the sweet smell and flavor. Gosh I hope thats not the case. That will put me between a rock and a hard place.
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