That's why I like faster reps when lifting weights, the numbers look better on paper lol. When I lift slow, the amount of reps isn't nearly as impressive.
Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux
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That's why I like faster reps when lifting weights, the numbers look better on paper lol. When I lift slow, the amount of reps isn't nearly as impressive.
Tonight I'm vaping very well aged Vita Bella and have to say it is just divine. My extraction of Milan Tobacconists French Vanilla scatches the same itch but Vita's unique vanilla and mellow tobacco put it in a class all its own. We haven't talked about them much lately but GoodeJuice's NETs should be on the must try list of anyone looking for no-nonsense tobacco flavor.
Damn straight! I'm happy that there's still some GeJ that I've yet to try. Anybody get their cigar NET yet?
I was perusing the Supplier Seasonal Thread for the 4th of July sales, and discovered a new kid on the block. No information about the extraction method used; all bottles are in 30ml PET bottles. Not an exciting menu, but they do describe the tobaccos used in each liquid.
http://www.shop.real-tobacco-extract.com/main.sc
Prices?
Are you kidding me on those prices???
Makes absolute sense.. I like a little tighter draw, and thus use a higher ohm and lower watt because of it.
I haven't tried the Godfather yet. Between my ACID cigar extractions, Bill's most excellent cigar extracts, and three cigars from checkum (now soaking), I'm cigar juice rich. Despite your concern for my lack of originality,
my Blondie and Kuba extractions were successful. I have enough to share with a few folks via PM.
I'm trying out some nearly two month old MVJ CAO Brazilia. I just cracked open the bottle. So, the full flavor isn't there. However, I'm getting mostly a dark and earthy Maduro with a bit of earth and a touch of bitter dark chocolate. This is definitely something to explore for a while. I have a feeling this is going to be an awesome vape about half way through the bottle.
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I'm starting to detect a slight musty floral note coming out and a faint toasty note.
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I'm starting to detect a slight musty floral note coming out and a faint toasty note.
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Are you kidding me on those prices???
Nope. Not a joke -- well, at least the prices aren't.
For the last few months I've been exclusively dripping into an RDA, around .2 ohm, 25ga kanthal, wide open airholes, on a 26650 mech mod. For me personally, blowing big clouds has become an integral component of a satisfying vape experience. I also feel that I'm getting decent flavor as well, especially with most of my juices being NETs. But I've noticed a lot of the posters here are using radically different setups. For example I see the mention of higher resistance coils on regulated devices with slight tweaks in the 8-12 watt range resulting in big differences in flavor. Am I missing out on flavor with my current setup? Am I overheating all these delicate NETs? I definitely taste each flavor distinctly. Still, I now have my doubts and wanted to put this to the veterans. Any thoughts?
I'd say do what works and makes you happy. That's the main purpose of vaping isn't it?
Most of the guys running low wattage are using some kind of a tank device and really can't kick it up a notch like you can with a dripper. I run drippers only also, both top and bottom fed, at 16 to 25 watts and feel that many NETs benefit from more heat. I do however keep my air holes a little smaller than most as I like the tighter draw, denser flavor, and ain't trying to impress anybody with clouds. The only way to tell if you'd like a little different setup is to try it. Close off the draw a little, wrap a higher ohm coil, experiment with wicking material and coil placement, hell, have some fun with it. In the end, if it works for you but nobody else is doing it, who cares? Vape on and live large!
I'm not and I can't say if you are or are not missing out on flavor if/when you are going for big clouds.... but...
As has been mentioned there are a lot of variables going into this stuff... One item ( that I can't recall who it was that brought it up ) is how much heat is in a given area of the coil... ie the amount of heat per a given amount of surface area of the coil. Using a thin gauge wire with a lower wattage, could essentially be similar to a larger gauge wire at a higher wattage IF the amount of heat in a given amount of surface area on both wires are equal.
I'm not going to go back over what was just mentioned other than to briefly repeat... the amount of air coming into/onto the coil will also keep the heat down as does the amount of e-juice coming into through the wick being used... then there are the long slow draws vs the short quick ones...
So a lot comes into play... in order for you to use higher wattages and not burn the juice... you have to keep the coil cooled down by one or several methods... more surface area for a given amount of heat... more air flow ... or more juice flow...
I use both RDA's and tanks. Each NET has it's sweet spot for my particular taste. A few I can do high volume in a Kayfun. Gunky coils don't bother me because my DIY NET's are gunky to begin with. IMHO less filtering means better taste but more of the crusties. I've gone as low as .5 ohms but I prefer 1.0 ohms on sterile cotton. For the Kangers I use hollow Ekowool with ss mesh inside. The mesh wick really helps with wrapping a micro-coil. I put a quad wick mega Tobh on a Hades 22650 but I haven't used it yet because frankly it scares the dickens out of me.
Nah, you're fine. I've gone low before with wide open airholes just to check it out, could certainly taste the juice fine. If that's the style you prefer, you're not missing out on flavor. I prefer a tighter draw myself since I don't do direct to lung inhales. Small hole dripper with 28ga kanthal at around 1 ohm. About .8 ohm is about the lowest I can go without needing a bigger airhole.
Not many cloud chasers in this thread (you're the first to chime in as far as I know). I think a big reason is this thread attracts flavor seekers. Someone can obviously be both a flavor chaser and a cloud chaser, but it seems rare compared to those that are one or the other. NETs are also pretty far from the cheapest way to consume 10-15+ ml a day, though I don't know if price is a common concern for cloud makers. Another issue is NETs are gunkier than other juice, which may make them less attractive for people of the clouds.
But if you like NETs to make your clouds, rock on man! No judgements here.
Colin Powell alert, lol.
Oh, Trabuco Vapors. What can I say about them? I am having major difficulty putting thoughts into words. Or maybe I'm over thinking this.
I have very little experience with pipe tobaccos and vapes. Even more inexperience with cigar vapes and tobaccos. I read with varying levels of understanding posts in this thread and truly appreciate the knowledge and experiences of whatever you vape.
On to Trabuco....given my history of liking NET vapes, but really only having tried a few vendors mentioned in this thread (Ahlusion, Heather's Heavenly Vapes, Goodejuice), coupled with me never really having tried any "straight tobaccos" and only having tried two "pipe and cigar" vapes, I read with great interest y'alls descriptions of them.
With alladat said
, I had no idea what to expect from Trabuco's offerings. Would they make me grow hair on my chest a la Ahlusion's aromatics? Would they have an artificial or poser quality to them? I just didn't know.
In my week with them, they've been neither of the aforementioned. Truthfully, I just find them merely vapeable [sic]. I don't think they're gross or artificial. The base tobacco used seems very familiar to me, but I don't know how. I've never smoked a pipe and never been around pipe smokers, but the taste of, I believe Virginia, is one that I recognize. I'm only guessing that the Virginia is the identifiable tobacco in these vapes for me only because it's the common tobacco according to all 4 bottles' labels. Please feel free to learn me, lol, if I have this wrong.
I tried them all and found them all to be adequate. I am enjoying Blackstar (Virginia, Burley, Graham Cracker) the most.
Capistrano makes me really notice the rum used to extract the tobacco. The blueberry in it seems to have helped distract this liquid. Or distinguish it from the others if you're a half-full glass type of person, ha.
Silverado I suppose qualifies as my 3rd straight tobacco vape. The other two being Ahlusion's Sahara Blend and Sweet Virginia, though those two are not as straight as straight tobacco vapes can be. Silverado was not as straight as I expected either, due to the rum permeating it. I didn't notice it as much as I did with Capistrano. It's ok.
And finally, Portola. I will preface this by sharing that I really like flavored tobacco vapes. Vanilla tobacco vapes, however, have done nothing for me so far. I wasn't expecting much from Portola and I got what I expected. My sense of smell is whacked, but I was really wanting to experience this room note y'all were posting about. All I can say is that my significant other and one of my dogs strongly opposed whenever I vaped it, lol.
So if I were grading on a 1 to 10 scale, I'd give Trabuco Vapors' line a 6. Muddled, but something in the juices are salvageable. I think if they were more distinguishable amongst themselves and somehow are able to lessen the rum extractions' effect on the flavor, it would be a step in the right direction.
I vaped these all in momma's new toy -- the Magma RDA, dual coiled with a 0.6 ohm total with a variable wattage device, between 11 and 19 watts. I used that trendy rayon wick also, ha. I really like how it holds up to high wattage as far as wicking is concerned.
Brobdingian, you're not the only one who can fill up a page in a thread with one post!
Oh, Trabuco Vapors. What can I say about them? I am having major difficulty putting thoughts into words. Or maybe I'm over thinking this.
I have very little experience with pipe tobaccos and vapes. Even more inexperience with cigar vapes and tobaccos. I read with varying levels of understanding posts in this thread and truly appreciate the knowledge and experiences of whatever you vape.
On to Trabuco....given my history of liking NET vapes, but really only having tried a few vendors mentioned in this thread (Ahlusion, Heather's Heavenly Vapes, Goodejuice), coupled with me never really having tried any "straight tobaccos" and only having tried two "pipe and cigar" vapes, I read with great interest y'alls descriptions of them.
With alladat said
, I had no idea what to expect from Trabuco's offerings. Would they make me grow hair on my chest a la Ahlusion's aromatics? Would they have an artificial or poser quality to them? I just didn't know. In my week with them, they've been neither of the aforementioned. Truthfully, I just find them merely vapeable [sic]. I don't think they're gross or artificial. The base tobacco used seems very familiar to me, but I don't know how. I've never smoked a pipe and never been around pipe smokers, but the taste of, I believe Virginia, is one that I recognize.
I'm only guessing that the Virginia is the identifiable tobacco in these vapes for me only because it's the common tobacco according to all 4 bottles' labels. Please feel free to learn me, lol, if I have this wrong. I tried them all and found them all to be adequate. I am enjoying Blackstar (Virginia, Burley, Graham Cracker) the most.
Capistrano makes me really notice the rum used to extract the tobacco. The blueberry in it seems to have helped distract this liquid. Or distinguish it from the others if you're a half-full glass type of person, ha.
Silverado I suppose qualifies as my 3rd straight tobacco vape. The other two being Ahlusion's Sahara Blend and Sweet Virginia, though those two are not as straight as straight tobacco vapes can be. Silverado was not as straight as I expected either, due to the rum permeating it. I didn't notice it as much as I did with Capistrano. It's ok.
And finally, Portola. I will preface this by sharing that I really like flavored tobacco vapes. Vanilla tobacco vapes, however, have done nothing for me so far. I wasn't expecting much from Portola and I got what I expected. My sense of smell is whacked, but I was really wanting to experience this room note y'all were posting about. All I can say is that my significant other and one of my dogs strongly opposed whenever I vaped it, lol.
So if I were grading on a 1 to 10 scale, I'd give Trabuco Vapors' line a 6. Muddled, but something in the juices are salvageable. I think if they were more distinguishable amongst themselves and somehow are able to lessen the rum extractions' effect on the flavor, it would be a step in the right direction.
I vaped these all in momma's new toy -- the Magma RDA, dual coiled with a 0.6 ohm total with a variable wattage device, between 11 and 19 watts. I used that trendy rayon wick also, ha. I really like how it holds up to high wattage as far as wicking is concerned.
Brobdingian, you're not the only one who can fill up a page in a thread with one post!
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Does anyone who vat NETS especially DIY NETS not use rebuildable tanks. After spending about a month with KFL clones (ephro and Tribeca) I am about to throw in the towel. I can build maybe on good one out of a dozen. Probably me arthritis/shakey hands. I use an Aerotank. You can pull hard on the aerotank and that may be part of me problem with the KFL's. Coil life is about 2 day. It gets expensive but I guess I am debated whether to throw in the towel with the KLF or keep trying. Untstand this is from a guy whos other hobby is building 600V tube amp (DC!) and SMD DAC, I' generally very good at DIY but have some sort of mental block with the KLF, I've wasted so much ejuice that I am taking a serious look at discontinuing my KLF endevour.
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I like my MT3S's with these coils, https://www.fasttech.com/p/1640705 , rewicked in cotton... The premade coils, https://www.fasttech.com/products/1411/10007182/1680200 (pick which ones you like and that fit, these do), also work good for when the time comes.. Taste great, decent vapor, and easy as pie.. I get at least 2 tanks with EtherVapes NETs before rewicking.
Now, you do have to make sure you have the correct MT3S's.. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/567056-dual-coils-t3s-mt3s-maybe.html
Now, you do have to make sure you have the correct MT3S's.. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/567056-dual-coils-t3s-mt3s-maybe.html
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I use Kanger T3Ds, Evod 2s, and Mini PT3s exclusively. I don't feel like I'm missing anything. I started rewicking the heads to cut down on costs. I'm not saying throw in the towel. I'm just saying there are other options if cost is your main concern with using Kangers.
Regal, you may want to try a rebuildable dripping atomizer (RDA) if you haven't already. The Kayfun, IMO, is great for a tank system when the stars are aligned and Mercury is in retrograde after a waxing gibbous. I personally do not vape NETs in tanks as even re-wicking is too much of a hassle. The Kayfun especially can be frustrating to green horn builders as coiling, the height of the coils on the deck and wick placement are all very very important to even get the blessed thing to work properly. I drip NETs almost exclusively on an older I-GO W. The deck is super easy to build on and dry-burning and re-wicking takes mere minutes between vapes. I also picked up some cheap clear acrylic top caps from "Slowtec" so that I can see the status of my wicks and coils at any given time. My total expenditure on this set-up was about $22, and a bag of unbleached organic cotton balls run about $3 and provide you with wick for at least a year.
There was a time where I was convinced that tanks were the optimum choice for a satisfying extended vape session. NETs prove that to be a challenge due to their wonky relationship with hardware. I dove headlong into dripping after uttering too many words that would make a Longshoreman blush with the Kayfun. Any decent dripper on a vv/vw or even a mech will produce far superior flavor, and a more satisfying vape than any tank. Subjective opinion? Maybe. But my experience tells me otherwise.
I'll borrow words and adapt from the great Blue Oyster Cult.
"Baby, Don't fear the Dripper!"
I actually started a thread this morning asking for recommendations for an easy to build dripper. WHen I'm at work I'm going to use the aerotank anyway so it only makes sense to use a dripper at home. I just ordered an I-GO W and transluscent tank.
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