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good point on the nic. i vape 24mg on all my juice. Well i have 36mg unflavored VG nic which definitely has a flavor to it, so yeah.


high nic - Like you said in a previous post... its not about the nicotine for me as much as it is about TH. Going higher in PG and lower on nic doesnt really work for me very well either. while PG might help make the nic TH stronger, its a different kind of TH compared to VG. its too dry and scratchy to me. almost like a dry atty hit even when everything is wicking/vaping correctly.
 

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Finally broke out my bottle of Brown Bomber (aka NEMP) from Dirty Monkey Vapeworks. Hot damn, I'm impressed. Extremely impressed. Probably one of the thickest juices I've seen, thicker than most other all VG vapes. I really can't see this working in anything than a dripper.

This juice is a monster. Firmly a cigar NET, but it seems to transend that category. There's an effervescence to it along with just the barest, tiny bit of cooling menthol that makes it a joy to vape. The tobacco is rich, complex, and just tasty. Above all it's an original, a unique experience that can't be compared to other NET juices available.

I'm firmly with Luce on this, a remarkable NET that is easy to fall for. I can see it just not working at all for some, but would recommend it to anyone wanting to try something just completely different, and be prepared to love it or hate it. If you hate it and it's 12mg, fling the monkey poo in my direction.

P.s. Even at 12mg, all vg; the throat hit is massive.
 

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You may do yourself a favor and mix an "other" flavor to tone it down.

I've tried a few other nets, only lab bacco and other gross sweet vapes mask it

I'll order some extracts and try that in the next few weeks, I have to dilute the WTA with way too much reg nets that kinda defeats the purpose of even vaping wta

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how does one obtain this monkey poo? short of going to the zoo.

There's no website, it's available in the ecig suppliers forum. Looks like Xobeloot has just closed ordering for the second batch, but still may be taking some orders, I'm not sure. No idea when the next batch will be up for sale, but it'll be posted on this thread. Here's the two active threads in the suppliers forum if you want to subscribe to them..

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495557

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493801
 

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I've tried a few other nets, only lab bacco and other gross sweet vapes mask it

I'll order some extracts and try that in the next few weeks, I have to dilute the WTA with way too much reg nets that kinda defeats the purpose of even vaping wta

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I was talking about, though I didn't specify, DIY additives. You'd be surprised (if you don't already know) what a few drops of FlaovurArt "tobaccos" or even non "tobaccos" can do. But, yeah, it will have to be concentrated as to not drop the mg too much.
 

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I was talking about, though I didn't specify, DIY additives. You'd be surprised (if you don't already know) what a few drops of FlaovurArt "tobaccos" or even non "tobaccos" can do. But, yeah, it will have to be concentrated as to not drop the mg too much.

Oh yeah I've added lab concentrates, but I only like tobacco and have yet to find a decent lab flavor......

A drop or two per 10ml is usually plenty

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Oh yeah I've added lab concentrates, but I only like tobacco and have yet to find a decent lab flavor......

A drop or two per 10ml is usually plenty

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Have you tried Hangsen? They use natural tobacco, though it tastes more lab-ish than the NETs we're accustomed to.
 

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Have you tried Hangsen? They use natural tobacco, though it tastes more lab-ish than the NETs we're accustomed to.

Ill have to look when I get home from work, I think I have hansgen USA mix, smells like licorice. I do have some TFA flavors as well.

I'll probably order some big spirit extract after Xmas

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Ill have to look when I get home from work, I think I have hansgen USA mix, smells like licorice.

The Hangsen "natural tobaccos" that Mr.Mann is referring to are made with Hangsen's proprietary Tobacco Absolute and do not taste anything like the synthetic USA Mix you already have from Hangsen.
 

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The Hangsen "natural tobaccos" that Mr.Mann is referring to are made with Hangsen's proprietary Tobacco Absolute and do not taste anything like the synthetic USA Mix you already have from Hangsen.

Gotcha. Thanks. I will have to order some of that

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You've seen mugs and t-shirts with my face on them, but are you NETizens ready for this?!?

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I've vaped almost a full bottle of BB with another full one on the shelf. I'm not getting it. Everyone loves the stuff but I get a gunsmoke taste with a pepper follow through. I've tried several different rigs and with an HH357 about every 5th toot I get a really nice smoky campfire kinda hit. Then it goes back to the pepper gunsmoke. If the second bottle remains the same after 1ml you can have the other 14 mls.

Finally broke out my bottle of Brown Bomber (aka NEMP) from Dirty Monkey Vapeworks. Hot damn, I'm impressed. Extremely impressed. Probably one of the thickest juices I've seen, thicker than most other all VG vapes. I really can't see this working in anything than a dripper.

This juice is a monster. Firmly a cigar NET, but it seems to transend that category. There's an effervescence to it along with just the barest, tiny bit of cooling menthol that makes it a joy to vape. The tobacco is rich, complex, and just tasty. Above all it's an original, a unique experience that can't be compared to other NET juices available.

I'm firmly with Luce on this, a remarkable NET that is easy to fall for. I can see it just not working at all for some, but would recommend it to anyone wanting to try something just completely different, and be prepared to love it or hate it. If you hate it and it's 12mg, fling the monkey poo in my direction.

P.s. Even at 12mg, all vg; the throat hit is massive.
 

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I've vaped almost a full bottle of BB with another full one on the shelf. I'm not getting it. Everyone loves the stuff but I get a gunsmoke taste with a pepper follow through. I've tried several different rigs and with an HH357 about every 5th toot I get a really nice smoky campfire kinda hit. Then it goes back to the pepper gunsmoke. If the second bottle remains the same after 1ml you can have the other 14 mls.

That's too bad it hasn't worked for you. I'm actually surprised I haven't read more negative reactions to it yet, as it does seem to me like it would be a polarizing vape on the level of Pluid or Highbrowbacco.

Hit me up if you want to get rid of it, maybe we'll work out a trade or something.
 

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I was talking about, though I didn't specify, DIY additives. You'd be surprised (if you don't already know) what a few drops of FlaovurArt "tobaccos" or even non "tobaccos" can do. But, yeah, it will have to be concentrated as to not drop the mg too much.

You and/or others posted somewhere that 'concentrates' and 'flavours' can be used to alter any particular commercial juice.
If I remember, the amount req'd is less for concentrates than flavours (sounds logical) so....

I'm gonna ask, pardon my noobiness.
I'm less interested in changimg nic level and more in sweetening dry, harsh, nutty, burn one's throat kinda sauce. I went to the DIY E-Liquid AND http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/74109-guide-diy-flavoring.html and was kinda run over with info that didn't really cover what I wanted to do. It's probably there but hey....

I'm not thinking that what I want to learn is in the DIYer category. I just want to tame, rather want to learn to tame, a couple of nasties I have sitting. The first nasty I had was Halo Cafe Mocha and 6 of 7 ml found the circular file.

No-one has to go into massive detail on this or, if I need that, gimme a link to read and study at my leisure.

Thanks all around.
 

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Extracts typically do not have NIC in them... so if you add some to an e-liquid you would be dropping the % of nic in that e-liquid. The amount of change would then depend on how much is added, so if you aren't adding a lot, it may not drop it much but there will be a drop in nic level. When I don't want to alter the nic level... I add a flavor that already has the same nic level in it as the e-liquid I'm trying to alter.

If an e-liquid burns your throat or is harsh... and it isn't caused by the nic level ( high nic will have more of a throat hit )... then it is likely that it's the vaporizer causing it. When there is a hot wrap on the coil or a hot leg... it can cause either. Other causes are too thick of an e-liquid for the type of coil/wick being used causing not enough juice to make it to the coil and cool it down... or a coil that is wrapped too tightly choking off the supply of e-liquid.
 

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Extracts typically do not have NIC in them... so if you add some to an e-liquid you would be dropping the % of nic in that e-liquid. The amount of change would then depend on how much is added, so if you aren't adding a lot, it may not drop it much but there will be a drop in nic level. When I don't want to alter the nic level... I add a flavor that already has the same nic level in it as the e-liquid I'm trying to alter.

If an e-liquid burns your throat or is harsh... and it isn't caused by the nic level ( high nic will have more of a throat hit )... then it is likely that it's the vaporizer causing it. When there is a hot wrap on the coil or a hot leg... it can cause either. Other causes are too thick of an e-liquid for the type of coil/wick being used causing not enough juice to make it to the coil and cool it down... or a coil that is wrapped too tightly choking off the supply of e-liquid.

Help already!
Well all I'm trying to do is alter the flavor a bit. Thanks for the nic tip on extracts. The 'harsh, nutty' example is MOV Gambler and so I thought if I could sweeten or cover the nuts a bit it would at least be more likeable. Rather than ignore it or give it away.

In this case I don't think the vaporizer was the problem. I kept a new, unused, Tabac BCC 2.5 ohm aside for this and used in on a regulated 3.7 volt kanger evod 650mah.
That combo would produce a bit milder, cooler hit if I recall correctly.

Thanks rdsok.
 

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Hi all,

It’s been so long since I’ve contributed to this forum. I have been busy with study, work and an active social life. Only the study has really served to prevent me from the quiet relaxing indulgences during pockets of spare time. I have finally finished this gruelling year of study as of yesterday and it’s a damn good feeling.

While I haven’t had much time to knock heads with vaping colleagues it hasn’t stopped me from trying new liquids and vaping devices. I have recently purchased a Rocket atomizer and Immortaliser from Fast Tech and both are providing new sensations in vaping. I had considered going for the original Kayfun Lite or the Russian 91% but I had come to the realization that over the last couple of years I was breaching one of the two major reasons I quit smoking and that was to save money. The other reason was to get my health back. Smoking no longer had a place in my life with the gym workouts, new outlook and social life. It seems every few months there is a new ‘game changer’ and new innovation in vaping. The vaping budget can quickly escalate to a habit that is more expensive than smoking cigarettes (and that’s saying something when a pack of 25 cigarettes costs $22 nowadays in Australia).

The rocket apparently (and annoyingly based on one Youtube review ) has just as good flavour and vapor as the Kayfun Lite and Russian. It’s cheaper and has noticeably cheaper parts but in functionality and performance it is apparently the same.

I have also purchased an Aspire BDC and a Protank Mini 2. These two clearomizers are upping the ante on clearomiser and glassomiser tanks and I would say the flavour that these devices produce is bridging the gap on repairable atomizers. The Aspire is a shockingly simple yet effective dual coil bottom coil and the flavour and vapor is outstanding. At $8.95 for the 3.5 ml tank one can’t go wrong.

I’ve been trying new liquids which have mostly been coming from Naturally-Extracted-Tobacco.com. Clay is on a mission to produce some fine liquids and I am still buying up everything he releases. The NS Dark seems to be similar to Big Spirit only with a flavour on the darker end of the spectrum as its namesake. The single varietals are outstanding. The smoked latakia is surely up there with the likes of Devil Dog and Apache. The flue cured burley is also amazing. The perique is my favourite out of the 3 or 4 naturally extracted periques out there. I find the GEJ perique too pungent in flavour which is probably a credit to the mastery of the extraction process of the vendor. The NET.com perique is easy to like and when mixed with the single varietal flue cured Virginia (VA-PER) turns into something magical.

In other news, I FINALLY got the mule order Chimps had organised for me. He put in a significant order for me from Ahlusion some 4 months ago and it mysteriously never arrived nor was returned. My Sweet Georgia Peach, Devil Dog, Sahara and Dulce Cubanito were missing in action and I resigned myself to perhaps never being able to try them. But after 4 months the package was returned to Chimps with no explanation given by the post office. Chimps re-posted it, this time with tracking and they arrived. Suffice it to say, it was worth the 4 months wait. The liquids are amazing. The SGP is everything everybody has been saying about it. It is almost like Devil Dog with a citrus twist.

I've tried Hangsens RY6 which is apparently a natural extraction or a composition of NET with synthetic tobacco flavour and it's not bad for Hangsen but difficult to have with the kinds of juices we have been spoiled with.

I have also tried Pluid. I won't even go there as this post has gone long, except to say it probably has the greatest flavor saturation of any liquid I've ever tried. It lingers on the palate long after the last vape and it feels wet on the inhale. Whether I like the aniseed flavour in the complex flavour profile is something I haven't made my mind up though.


One thing I would like to say about Heather’s Heavenly Vapes is that they disappointingly have started losing flavour after only 6 months. They didn’t have a great deal of flavour to begin with but what there was, was divine, like a flavour from some other ethereal world but over time the flavour has tapered off. I just wish I knew that would happen because I would have vaped them up sooner.

This has been one whopper of a post so thank you to anyone who read through it. I look forward to tracing back now to where I left off months ago and catching up with all the developments, opinions, new NET vendors, weekly dust ups and most of all how tastes and preferences are evolving amidst the super fast development of the industry with new atomizers, clearos, RBAS and NET vendors.
 
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