Natural Tobaccos

[Jerms]

Haha that's awesome Scarf. I laughed hard several times reading that. I knew a couple of those, but most are new to me. I like that they use lollies for candy. I use it to, but in a condecending way, "What's the matter uncle Bob, you need a lolly?"

Thanks for the money converter link, I'll need that. And I knew it was euros I was just testing people, yeah that's the ticket

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[Mr.Mann]

CravinVapes responded to a few questions- and thier main talking point was 'organic' tobacco extracts, as in "The tobaaco we use is not any leaves that have had any extra chemicals added to them". And while they use 'some artificial flavorings' they have assured me the PG. VG and flavors are all FDA approved. (Why go to the trouble of organic tobacco extracts just to add artificial flavors ?) Ans, oh by the way, we may have forgotten to label your bottles 30/70 PG/VG, but we can assure you're order was mixed to your specifications.

Why am I starting to feel like a lost child who ran away from HHV ?

I don't know, Papaw, at least they're being honest about adding flavoring. Trust me, there are other vendors that hide behind the term "organic" that won't tell you about their other "flavorings." It's okay to me to say, "we have a proprietary mix of other flavorings added to the tobacco," as long as the vendor specifies, preferably on the site, which tobacco is used. Now, my take-away from vendors that don't, or can't, go into depth about their tobacco is generally that of suspicion. So my biggest concern about their talking points is that they didn't specify what tobacco they used -- I can't buy a dish labelled "meat."

Saying that the tobacco is organic tells you.. well.. almost absolutely nothing. Saying the pg, vg, and flavors are FDA approved lets you know that... umm.. nothing as well. It was great of them to respond but it's a shame they didn't give any actual info. Would have been nice to find out at least the type of tobacco used and if they use different blends for the different flavors (highly doubt it based on website). Would make me a little leery of the juices but I wouldn't count them out yet. Them using artificial flavors doesn't worry me because I think most NETs with added flavors such as vanilla or maple go that route (I may be wrong on that).

I don't know, I really prefer words like Burley, Perique, Latakia etc or names of cigars or pipe blends in the name or description. Organic tells me nothing.

Exactly! I usually ask direct questions about whether the vendor uses TA/TE -- though some play around and respond like an eliquid politician by saying, "we only use extracted tobacco," which is fine, cause there is a another way to get the truth; I ask whether or not their tobaccos are extracted in house or by a third party -- most times if its a third party, its TA/TE if they don't explicitly say otherwise; and I ask about their process for extracting -- not that I need to know necessarily the process of extraction, but I like to see how the question is answered -- and I ask exactly what tobaccos are being used. The only question I ask that I will accept evasiveness from is the question about their process for extracting, if they can't answer the rest, ESPECIALLY the question of what tobacco is being used, it's time for me to step. I don't trust "NET" vendors that dont't speak Tobacconese, and neither should you. None of us here IMO should accept the term "tobacco" as an umbrella term.

 

[scarf-ace]

To all the wonderful folks here have a wonderful 2013!

Yes it is next year already

 

[Jerms]

Exellent point about "meat". You don't see vendors selling juice labeled "fruit" or "beverage". I don't mind generic tobacco terms used for a lab juice, but for NETs you would know what type of tobacco you're using. Hopefully you know enough about tobacco to understand what type of tobacco brings out what results. Usually I'm sure, like you said Mann, it's because they aren't extracting their own tobacco. I don't know how to make wine, but if I was going to I would have to learn about different types of grapes. Picking random grapes and guessing how to turn them into wine probably won't lead to quality.

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[Jerms]

To all the wonderful folks here have a wonderful 2013!

Yes it is next year already

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The only time zone that really counts is the one I'm in. Regardless, HAPPY NEW YEAR SCARF!! I hope your year is full of good chear and vaping pleasure.

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[Mr.Mann]

Exellent point about "meat". You don't see vendors selling juice labeled "fruit" or "beverage". I don't mind generic tobacco terms used for a lab juice, but for NETs you would know what type of tobacco you're using. Hopefully you know enough about tobacco to understand what type of tobacco brings out what results. Usually I'm sure, like you said Mann, it's because they aren't extracting their own tobacco. I don't know how to make wine, but if I was going to I would have to learn about different types of grapes. Picking random grapes and guessing how to turn them into wine probably won't lead to quality.

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Another good point! Same with coffee...

customer: excuse me, barista, what kind of beans are used in the house blend?

Barista: uh, we only use coffee.

customer:

 

[Jerms]

Another good point! Same with coffee...

customer: excuse me, barista, what kind of beans are used in the house blend?

Barista: uh, we only use coffee.

customer:

Lol. Some people, Dennis Leary for example, really just want coffee flavored coffee. I can see his bit, at a tobacco shop. "Ring up some tobacco" "what would you like? We have (fill in cigar and tobacco names)" " I want tobacco flavored tobacco! Get it through your skull"

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[gthompson]

I'm afraid this is going to become more and more common with the spike in "NET" popularity. Many will simply see the quick to be made dollar signs from people who don't know any better (read: me 6 months ago).

 

[Mr.Mann]

It would be nice to see a list, though it would be hard to compile, that shows what vendors actually state what tobacco is used.

The ones I know are: Ahlusion, Want2Vape, GoodeJuice, Vaperite, House of Liquid, The Plume Room, and ????

The fact is, we, in this thread, are being read by customers and vendors alike, so we should demand more transparency! If we did not support generalized tobacco juices, many would change. IMO, the term "proprietary" should only be used or implied when referencing additional flavorings, not tobacco. Granted, any business can sell and operate how they wish, and I, the customer, can advocate for what I want and spend my money how I wish.

We should also start a list of vendors that won't say what is in their tobacco juices.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Lol. Some people, Dennis Leary for example, really just want coffee flavored coffee. I can see his bit, at a tobacco shop. "Ring up some tobacco" "what would you like? We have (fill in cigar and tobacco names)" " I want tobacco flavored tobacco! Get it through your skull"

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And I bet he would buy "meat." Dennis Leary is the funniest when he steals Bill Hicks' routines.

 

[Bronze]

Why am I starting to feel like a lost child who ran away from HHV ?

Don't feel that way anymore Pop Pop.

 

[Jerms]

I'm afraid this is going to become more and more common with the spike in "NET" popularity. Many will simply see the quick to be made dollar signs from people who don't know any better (read: me 6 months ago).

I'm sure you're right. The good part for me is having a thread I can go to that guides me to the tried and true NETs. Even getting to the many recommended on this thread already will keep me occupied for a bit. I've mentioned it before, but I let out a sigh of relief reading about the VV issue, since I was very close to purchasing them blind.

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[Mr.Mann]

I'm sure you're right. The good part for me is having a thread I can go to that guides me to the tried and true NETs. Even getting to the many recommended on this thread already will keep me occupied for a bit. I've mentioned it before, but I let out a sigh of relief reading about the VV issue, since I was very close to purchasing them blind.

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Tez, my homeboy, sent me some VV as a gag. When I say "gag," I mean that figuratively and literally!

 

[gthompson]

Tez, my homeboy, sent me some VV as a gag. When I say "gag," I mean that figuratively and literally!

That's pretty funny, I don't care who you are.

 

[Jerms]

Tez, my homeboy, sent me some VV as a gag. When I say "gag," I mean that figuratively and literally!

Lol. I probably would have picked it up without this thread based on user reviews on VVs site. People like the darndest things.

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[Mr.Mann]

Lol. I probably would have picked it up without this thread based on user reviews on VVs site. People like the darndest things.

Yeah, about that....

Some people go to Taco Bell when in the mood for authentic Mexican cuisine.

 

[Dansauls]

some of us do consider "The Bell" fine dining.......

 

[TBinAZ]

Now, that was good scarf-ace. I work with a number of guys who have spent time in AU. I have heard some great stories from them. It's truly amazing though how these guys who went over there as normal American folk returned to the states as Crocodile Dundees. All the way down to calling everyone 'Mate', wearing those hats with the turned up side, and outfitting their Land Rovers with brush guard armour and intake snorkels. LOL.

As far as the HoL thing goes, I haven't been charged for shipping yet with two orders placed. I think they actually take pity on our dollar to euro conversion difference.

Jerms I promise you it isn't that difficult. I'm American too, it can't be THAT hard
That € symbol stands for Euros. Go to XE - Universal Currency Converter for easy currency conversion.

Quick and dirty American's guide to Australia:
Dingos don't eat babies. (Don't ask me how I know that.)
"Lollies" means candy.
Tomato sauce is the stuff you dip your French fries into, not the stuff you pour on spaghetti.
French fries are actually called chips.
Chips as you know them are also called chips. It is a context thing.
If it is 38 degrees outside, that is VERY VERY HOT, not cold.
Paper money is actually made out of plastic and comes in garish colors.
My spellchecker says that "colors" in the sentence above is spelled incorrectly.
Don't ever use the word "root" as a verb, as in rooting for your favorite sports team. "Root" is a slang euphemism for, um, the marital act And yes, I was the .... of many jokes before I figured that out.
There is a sport called cricket which is kind of like baseball, except a game takes five days to play. When the sport's ruling body came up with a "one-day" version that MERELY lasted from morning to night, it was denounced as an evil Communist television-executive-led plot.
Even if you do not and have never had an uncle named Bob, people will insist that you do. Just go along with it.

 

[spaceballsrules]

OK, so how come no one is talking about the new Poker Blend juices from Vermillion River?

So VR has introduced 2 new cigar flavors named Poker Blend and Game Night, and they are both splendid juices. I am not usually a fan of cigar flavors, but these are GOOD.

Poker Blend: Reminiscent of a Claro wrapper cigar. It has a classic underlying flavor of straight up cigar, with undertones of woodsiness, nuttiness, and a kiss of sweetness.

Game Night: Reminiscent of a Maduro wrapper cigar. This one is a little darker and heavier than its counterpart, and has undertones of earthiness, cocoa, and coffee.

Both juices mimic a cigar's scent and smoke without being overbearing. There is no burnt/ashy flavor left on the tongue, like you get with TA, but these are both full-bodied, full-flavored tobacco vapes that can compliment the food and booze at your next card game. 2 enthusiastic thumbs up from me.

 

[spaceballsrules]

some of us do consider "The Bell" fine dining.......

Do Doritos flavored tacos really deserve the white tablecloth treatment?