• Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers

    Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?

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There is no problem with fan threads. I would have a problem if you couldn't feel comfortable talking about other vendors though. That's where I would draw the line. I've been on fan threads and company threads where if you dare say anything against the host you were summarily lashed and caned. Ridiculous!
 

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Totally agree with what Mr.Herbst is saying... The defensive tone of the General e-liquid Discussion Forum is becoming commonplace. I think it relates to having too many fan threads that really belong in the Lounge section, IMO. The more of these fan threads that are kept on the front page, the more likely the topics these threads are about will be trolled, knowing that a reaction will be easy to provoke.

Also take what Mr.Mann said, and then clarified... Not to be an attack on certain juices or a declaration that they do not deserve status in the Natural Tobacco thread. I think the point he is trying to make is one that will be helpful to new visitors of this thread in their search for a NET that fits their taste profile. Basically it is an attempt to classify and categorize the universe of NETs. Like music for instance... Genres of music are blurry, but if you like smooth jazz... You are more likely to find new music you like in that category, than the more general category of jazz. As it relates to NETs... There is a range from A-Z of the strength of tobacco flavor in the product... "A" being only strong, in your face tobacco, and "Z" being flavored tobacco where the scale it tipped heavily in the favor of the other flavors. For example, you could try to breakdown the NETs reviewed here into four categories... Straight Tobacco, Big Font Tobacco (Flavored), Small Font Tobacco (Flavored), and Tobacco Flavored. Straight Tobacco would be exactly that, nothing but tobacco. Big Font Tobacco for be something like 50/50 tobacco to flavor or higher, while Small Font Tobacco would be juice with higher than 50% flavoring. Tobacco Flavored would be the other end of the range, being some flavor with hints of tobacco. Of the juices I have tried, and this is not saying anything about whether or not they are good juice... Some of Ahlusion (BGB/DD), GeJ House Brewed (Patriot/Fire Cured/Etc.) and W2V Premiun/Vapenstein (Managua/Alcazar/Etc.) juices are Straight Tobacco. Some of Ahlusion Aromatics (Caribbean Blend/Honey Cured/Etc.), GeJ (Wrangler Lite) and Want2Vape (Cold Infusion/Tabak Especial/Etc.) are Big Font Tobacco. Some of Ahlusion Non-Aromatics, GeJ (GJ4/Apple Cured/Etc.), HHV (Gandalf/Dipity/ShadowFax/Etc.) could be considered Small Font Tobacco. And I am struggling to think of a Tobacco Flavored NET juice, but there certainly are some out there. Obviously there are juices that sit really close to the 50/50 line and could swing either way... So you could creatively say when describing them that they are Medium Font Tobacco... But the idea still works. I also think you could take Straight Tobacco and break it down by strength of extract... From heavy to mild, and in between... This sort of takes care of itself in the other two main categories, since a mild tobacco flavor is probably going to come through as less than 50% of the flavor in the mix.

The problem that is surfacing in this thread, IMO... Is one of feeling like you need to like Straight Tobacco or Big Font Tobacco to belong, which is silly. There is nothing wrong with preferring Small Font Tobacco, or liking stuff from multiple different categories. I personally tend to prefer stuff that is at least 75% tobacco flavored... And would love to know other juices that fit that profile. I like trying to pick out different flavors that come from a blend of tobacco versus picking picking the tobacco out of chocolate/vanilla/cherry flavors ... But I also like Small Font Tobaccos from time to time as well.

Hopefully this doesn't offend anyway... Since that is in no way the intention. Can't we all just get along and try to help people find a NET that fits their taste profile?

Great observation skinny. I'm feeling a bit guilty for the direction the last few pages of this thread went in. I think differing opinions and varied palates is essential to search and evaluation of the juices in this thread. This thread has helped shape the way I vape today and I am so grateful for that. I didn't intend for any disrespect.


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This thread, being as large as it is, has had it's share of minor squabbles, disagreements, a couple walk in trolls, off-topic digressions for pages, etc. Nothing that has ruined from the spirit of the thread, things always have gotten back on track. I've learned a lot even when the thread temporarily dissolves into something else. Personally, I like a variety of tobaccos on hand that hit both ends of the range.

Ravyn (limited-edition NET from AiV) will be in my hands today. Will post initial impressions shortly. Word from AiV is that it will probably need at least a week of steep to come together, but curious to find how strong the tobacco is in this one.

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Let's get back to helping each other with NET's ; namely ME !
It is my understanding that Cavendish is a Tobacco PRODUCT rather than a perticular tobacco plant. It is curing and cutting process disigned to harvest the natural 'sweet' from the tobacco leaves while leaving the stronger or bitter part of the tobacco flavor behind. Cavendish is, by design and defenition, a sweeter, milder tobacco product. I have always enjoyed this flavor. Chris at CravinVapes told me his 'Organic Vanilla Pipe' e-liquid is specifically extracted from Cavendish tobacco. Why I didn't order that liquid in my first order is still befuddling to me, I will include it in my next CravinVapes order. My Question is- Does anyone recall a perticular e-liquid where the vendor specifically states that the start with an extraction from Cavendish tobacco ? I would be most interested in these flavors. As always, any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks
 

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My Question is- Does anyone recall a perticular e-liquid where the vendor specifically states that the start with an extraction from Cavendish tobacco ? I would be most interested in these flavors. As always, any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks

The Plume Room's Candied Cavendish. As good as it is, I have a hard time finding the tobacco in it though. Ahlusions non-aros are made with Cavendish too.

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Cool ! I've got 6 non-aero's on order !

"For our non-aromatic blends we use milder Cavendish blends which are a bit sweeter and balanced with complementary flavors."

I still haven't dug into that line, except Smooth Criminal. I'm sure they're top shelf though.

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Let's get back to helping each other with NET's ; namely ME !
It is my understanding that Cavendish is a Tobacco PRODUCT rather than a perticular tobacco plant. It is curing and cutting process disigned to harvest the natural 'sweet' from the tobacco leaves while leaving the stronger or bitter part of the tobacco flavor behind. Cavendish is, by design and defenition, a sweeter, milder tobacco product. I have always enjoyed this flavor. Chris at CravinVapes told me his 'Organic Vanilla Pipe' e-liquid is specifically extracted from Cavendish tobacco. Why I didn't order that liquid in my first order is still befuddling to me, I will include it in my next CravinVapes order. My Question is- Does anyone recall a perticular e-liquid where the vendor specifically states that the start with an extraction from Cavendish tobacco ? I would be most interested in these flavors. As always, any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks

Paw, you GOTTA get Organic Vanilla Pipe. Judging from your description of the Twice Vanilla, I think OVP is gonna be right up your alley. A very mild cavendish flavor with a whisper of vanilla. Now, if you really wanna make this juice shine, puff it like a pipe! No inhales. I just let the vapor slowly pour out of my mouth, and occasionally exhale out my nose without actually inhaling to the lungs (not sure if that technique has a name). It creates the most enjoyable room note, and the vanilla really starts to pop!

For those who enjoy Vita Bella, the vanilla will be extremely familiar. It's a sugary-sweet kind of vanilla. VERY reminiscent of VB, but it's there from the get go... no waiting 6 weeks for it to make its appearance ;). Just as a reference, I'd place this juice profile somewhere between Vita Bella and Shadowfax. But, as is the case with the Blue Organic Mild, this juice also kinda has it's own little niche. Not as sweaty and tobacco-y as Vita B, and not as sweet/desserty as Shadowfax.

I gotta say that sometimes I feel these CV's are a tad light in the pants. I primarily vape Ahlusion's Aromatics, with the occasional GeJ, W2V or A+ Tea thrown in. Most of the time when I switch from an A+ Aro to a CV, the CV just doesn't satisfy. :unsure: I'm down to about 3ml of both these juices, and Im considering a re-order with extra extract to see if that makes them hit the spot a little better. I should also state that these juices still seem very clean. Gone through 15ml combined on the same 510 atty and no issues whatsoever.
 
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Good to see someone else enjoying those Cravin Vapes. I really did enjoy the Maple Spirit Tobacco (and a desert vape named Strawberry Cheesecake). Getting ready to load-up CV's Caramel Tobacco and Creamy Coconut in seperate T3's just now !

Nicey nice! Shawn sent me a free sample of the Caramel Tobacco. I tried it on day two, and just wasn't feeling it. The caramel needed some time to simmer. I'll check in on it again this weekend and see where it is. BTW, I kinda had the feeling Vanilla X would be a little overboard. Thanks for the review on that one!
 

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Nicey nice! Shawn sent me a free sample of the Caramel Tobacco. I tried it on day two, and just wasn't feeling it. The caramel needed some time to simmer. I'll check in on it again this weekend and see where it is. BTW, I kinda had the feeling Vanilla X would be a little overboard. Thanks for the review on that one!

I've let my CT steep for two weeks, and Shawn told me the MST and CT are both made from Kentucky extracts.
 

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Good to see someone else enjoying those Cravin Vapes. I really did enjoy the Maple Spirit Tobacco (and a desert vape named Strawberry Cheesecake). Getting ready to load-up CV's Caramel Tobacco and Creamy Coconut in seperate T3's just now !

Let me know your thoughts on the Caramel PopPop. I have some Adam's Apple here that I'm thinking I could spike it with if it needs a little spicing up after I try it. BTW, I placed an order with CV yesterday. It was hand mixed and shipped three hours later. That can be good or bad. :D.
 

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I gotta say that sometimes I feel these CV's are a tad light in the pants. I primarily vape Ahlusion's Aromatics, with the occasional GeJ, W2V or A+ Tea thrown in. Most of the time when I switch from an A+ Aro to a CV, the CV just doesn't satisfy. :unsure: I'm down to about 3ml of both these juices, and Im considering a re-order with extra extract to see if that makes them hit the spot a little better. I should also state that these juices still seem very clean. Gone through 15ml combined on the same 510 atty and no issues whatsoever.

Light on flavor, TH, or vapor? Have you messed with the PG/VG or nic levels?
 

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Let me know your thoughts on the Caramel PopPop. I have some Adam's Apple here that I'm thinking I could spike it with if it needs a little spicing up after I try it. BTW, I placed an order with CV yesterday. It was hand mixed and shipped three hours later. That can be good or bad. :D.

I think it was Nick who called CV 'not heavy-handed', and says they can be 'a little light in the pants'. I would say this; I enjoy HHV's Tobacco Line and HighBrow's sweets and fruit-vapes. I find that CV fits right in beside those two vendors for Vapor Production and tha Amount of Flavor. And, as a relatively new vendor who admits to still being "in start-up mode", the three hour turn-around is something I find pleasantly refreshing. Let them steep a couple weeks. You might enjoy them, I do.
 
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