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So, I've been enjoying Vita Bella in a clearomizer but a few minutes ago, I dripped it for the first time.

Wow...

I gotta say, in several months of vaping and trying a few bits of hardware and a LOT of juices, this is the closest I've come to the feel and taste of smoking a good tobacco - but it's even better 'cause that acrid edge of burning leaves isn't there.

I think some people are easily swept up by the vanilla-like top note in Vita Bella and never give its due for being a really deep, full tobacco flavor. I've dedicated an rba to it.
 

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There's a tiny air hole about half way up the chamber. I've heard the same complaints about those lower air holes. Not a problem with the Phoenix.

I had the same problem with the Octopus, I broke off a toothpick in the side hole & hole below the coil, and drilled one with a 3/32 bit, in the third indentation from the bottom. In retrospect I'd recommend starting with a 5/64, the 3/32 is a bit too airy for me when aligned with the coil, I offset it ~45 degrees which seems to tighten the draw and I get good flavor & vapor.

Dang, have I ever said Vita Bella is awesome before? Let me qualify...6+month-old Vita Bella. :)

I'm stoked to read that, I have ~4ml of Orange De Sangre left in my bottom-feed/ A7 setup, next up is 5 m/o Vita Bella @6mg and looking very, very dark. I have a second 30ml steeping ~2 weeks now, I might just drip some for a comparison taste breaking the steep discipline.

Home-brewing NET doesn't require much space, and no complicated equipment. All you need for Basic 101 Home-Brew NET is a burner, a pot, some water, coffee filters and a cone. Plus tobacco, of course. That's not to suggest that anyone should make his/her own NET, but it's easy. Easier than rebuilding/winding coils. LOL.

On the other hand, NEC (naturally-extracted coffee) turns out to be quite difficult. The process is just as easy, but good results (as an extract to make vaping juices) are elusive, to say the least. I'm still working on that one.
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Bill's right, I use a small ceramic bowl & pot on the stove, heat steeping uncovered ~3 hours, low simmer. Keep your eye on the water level and add as needed.

I haven't done a Tobacco yet, just an NESpice with whole Clove, I mix the extract @5%, since it can be an overpowering flavor. The juice @0 nic is a good palette cleanser, I might experiment mixing this with the right home-brewed NET, maybe a Nat Sherman or American Spirit type Tobacco.

I recently completed an NECoffee, freshly ground medium roast Colombian, 3hour simmer and (Coffee) filtered twice. IMO a longer extraction might draw more bitterness from the bean, and three hours produced a Maple colored liquid.

The filtering was a very long process, the first run was ~90 minutes, and becoming impatient, I squeezed the filter gently so I thought, halfway through the "gentle squeeze", the bottom seam of the filter split. Since very little liquid was getting extracted, I tossed the filter & contents and the second filter run was ~20 minutes, no squeezing this time.

I quickly mixed a 50ml bottle @ 20%, eventually a bad move, though it has really good flavor, I'm sure it will be a coil gunker, I'm vaping mine in an iClear30, good taste and the Vapor Aroma is noticeably Coffee.

Next mix will be @10-12%, the extract has gotten darker as well, I did sit it in the Window for 48 hours, hoping a "Sun Brewed/steeped extract will yield more flavor. I sent my Sister a 5ml Coffee mixed@ 12%, so I'm waiting for her to test & report.
 

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Surely your not saying they're anodized on the inside cooking area? Moisture & Heat will react with the chemicals used to anodize aluminum. You don't want to inhale that stuff. That's why I stay away from anodized drip tips and I use a dremel tool to sand and buff out any area that comes into contact with e-juice. I am doubly dubious of Chinese made tip and RDA's as their standards are at best cursory.

Boomerdude,

Rut-Row !!!

OK - Please explain why the anodized aluminum will poison you/me whomever?

I have never heard of that one. All my pots and pans are black anodized aluminum.

Do I need to make a doctor's appointment.

Please reply fast I am about to have dinner.
 

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So I decided to vape Ahlusion Blue Grass Burley side by side with GEJ Organic #1. For many people's money, the BGB is the best straight up tobacco NET on the market. IMHO It comes down to BGB...along with W2V Louisville and London.

They are a little closer than I would have guessed, to be honest. BGB has a very distinctive taste as we know, it is also smokier and more hearty...and hits harder. To me it is a clear winner and I don;t need both in my rotation. That said, I will state again that i think Organic #1 is very clean, very good...and I recommend as an NET for the vaper just venturing into NET's. It is delightful in many ways and more approachable that any of the other top straight up NET tobacco vapes.

I'm a fan of BGB. Now you have me looking at Louisville and London. :)
 

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BoomerDude,

Rut-Row^2

Yes they are black anodized inside and out.

Next time your in Wally World (Wal-Mart) or Costco take a look. I have had mine for some time but I think both stores still carry them.

Bet I sleep well tonight - NOT

"BoomerDude" - Just curious were you a submariner as in "Boomers"?
 

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BoomerDude,

Rut-Row^2

Yes they are black anodized inside and out.

Next time your in Wally World (Wal-Mart) or Costco take a look. I have had mine for some time but I think both stores still carry them.

Bet I sleep well tonight - NOT

"BoomerDude" - Just curious were you a submariner as in "Boomers"?

Anodized cookware is pretty common, makes a good non-stick surface. Not sure how much testing has been done as far as leeching chemicals, but it's been around for a while. Personally I'm not concerned about it; others may be but I wasn't aware it may be considered unsafe (same with anodized aluminum RBAs and tips).

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Question for those who've had VelvetCloudVapors baccos. I plan on picking two of them, White Beard in for sure. Not sure about the second one, Blue Beard or Burley Beard. Any opinions? Burley Beard sounds like something I'd be more intersted in, being a straight tobacco vape, but I think I've read a lot more people liking the Blue.

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I'm a fan of BGB. Now you have me looking at Louisville and London. :)

Both are must tries dude. I smoked a lot of English pipe blend, and thus thought I would prefer London. It IS outstanding, top, top shelf...a contender for the heavyweight title. However Louisville is the most authentic "smoking" experience I have ever vaped.
 

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Picked up some organic cotton balls. Trying cotton in a micro coil instead of my normal German silica or Ekowool. So far tested Vurley, Lemon Cream, and Apollo's RY4. Need to adjust to the different flavor profile before deciding on if I prefer it. Sure is easy to work with. As of now, flavor doesn't seem to pop as much and seems less creamy; though still clean and full flavor. Very early impressions; I'm so used to silica I'll need to give it some time. 10 wraps, 28ga Kanthal, 1.5mm diameter, 1.05 ohms.

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Question for those who've had VelvetCloudVapors baccos. I plan on picking two of them, White Beard in for sure. Not sure about the second one, Blue Beard or Burley Beard. Any opinions? Burley Beard sounds like something I'd be more intersted in, being a straight tobacco vape, but I think I've read a lot more people liking the Blue.

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VCV is a great company to deal with. Julie's super down to Earth. Their tobaccos are TA, but done with just the right touch in a whole lot of people's opinions. Blue Beard, as you know, isn't a straight tobacco, but a honey cured Virginia with essence of blue and blackberries. The berry is very, very light. I'd be surprised if it put you off of the liquid. But again, as you know, Burley Beard is straight up tobacco.

That said; I like to have both in my arsenal.
 

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Jerms,

I don't think I would try a dry burn on the puppy. :unsure:

Can you spell "Flashbulb".

On a serious note please let us know how the cotton looks the next time you take it apart.

The last time I took one of the "Flavor Wickes" out of my Pro-Tank II where it touched the coil it was burnt black as charcoal.
 

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Jerms,

Are you saying it was blackened like a ceramic wick and hydrogen Peroxide cleaned it... white?

If so I am going to try that on the ceramic (fiberglass). I have tried the Vodka, Ever-clear which didn't work at all but never H.P. I am waiting for your answer and I will go for it if you are saying what I think you are saying.
 

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Jerms,

I don't think I would try a dry burn on the puppy. :unsure:

Can you spell "Flashbulb".

On a serious note please let us know how the cotton looks the next time you take it apart.

The last time I took one of the "Flavor Wickes" out of my Pro-Tank II where it touched the coil it was burnt black as charcoal.

Yeah gotta keep the cotton wet. It's so easy to re-wick though, I mean literally about 5 seconds. It will be quick to take out the wick, dry burn, and but in a new wick (or put the old one back in) than rinsing and drying silica wick before dry burning.

Yeah, the flavor wicks do get nasty looking. They are made of silica though, not cotton.

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Jerms,

Are you saying it was blackened like a ceramic wick and hydrogen Peroxide cleaned it... white?

If so I am going to try that on the ceramic (fiberglass). I have tried the Vodka, Ever-clear which didn't work at all but never H.P. I am waiting for your answer and I will go for it if you are saying what I think you are saying.

No the cotton balls are whitened with 2(HO) as part of the manufacturing process. I'm guessing because they are organic, while regular cotton may be whitened with bleach. That was a picture of the cotton wick before I used it, just tore a tiny bit off a ball and wicked it.

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Non-stick is a completely different process. Anodizing is sort of like electroplating. I don't think you have to worry about your cookware.

No subs for me, I'm an Army Vet. Baby Boomer.

Anodized cookware is pretty common, makes a good non-stick surface. Not sure how much testing has been done as far as leeching chemicals, but it's been around for a while. Personally I'm not concerned about it; others may be but I wasn't aware it may be considered unsafe (same with anodized aluminum RBAs and tips).

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Non-stick is a completely different process. Anodizing is sort of like electroplating. I don't think you have to worry about your cookware.

Google anodized aluminum cookware. Same process. It's not a non-stick coating like Teflon, just the anodizing gives the aluminum non-stick properties.

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