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Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers
Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?
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No they don't ... not to me at least. So it isn't the juice.. it's you
or the bottles that we had! I mean it COULD be that the heat extraction tastes "off" to someone compared to the cold maceration, but as cannedwolf said a few pages back, the taste is REALLY similar, to him, and to me as well.
I think it may have been the bottles. That's my story and for now, I'm sticking with it! And btw, we have changed vendors for the bottles as of 3 weeks ago, so IF that could be the culprit, hoefully we've already addressed it!
Clay
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Shat got his in his first order... what around the 8th of last month. I got mine ordered on the 12th. I did get the hot extraction and not the cold. As I mentioned, I don't doubt Shat... just that if it's the juice, it's likely him ( and his family since taste is known to be hereditary ) that is sensitive to what he is detecting. An extreme example is seen with the chemical PTC that some taste as extremely bitter and others taste almost nothing ... see PTC: GENES AND BITTER TASTE
Got my order and am sampling them all
Cramer, I'm happy they arrived today! Please let us know what you think!
Something similar happened to a friend of mine last summer with some Heather's Heavenly Vapes. The bottles they used were similar to your 5 mL sample bottles, but perhaps a little softer. They had sat in his mailbox for a day or two and cooked, and they acquired a distinct and undesirable flavor as a result. This time of year, my money's on the bottles as the culprit. I'd switch to the food-safe PET bottles -- they're a little hard, but they seem to be the safest (more so than LDPE) and most reliable option, aside from glass.
So after an up and down day with black cherry...and let me say it again, I DO like it, I really think it just needs a couple weeks to blossom...well, I left the wife at the hospital, put the babies to bed, and got my NETCOM on...
BSMV - wow. This is exactly the kind of hit, balance, just whole package I was looking for from a fruit tobacco. Absolutely outstanding. I have to admit, despite going for a full 60ml I was excited but worried too. Mango is strong stuff that even can funk stuff up if not careful. I figured the vanilla would smoothe this out and even bind it to the tobacco, and given the balance in clay's other blends that sounded hopeful. But would this still be a tobacco first? Well...F yes. A dn good one too!!! Outstanding. There is something magical here...the mango seems like it is a quality of the tobacco itself, not an added ingredient. My other concern was vanilla dominance and we have seen that with oh so many juices. Nope, it is perfectly subtle and serves merely to bind the two into one fabulously singing note of quality tobacco. This is a really great tobacco vape that hits an net enthusiast the way he wants to be hit. Excellence.
Big Spirit - I was cautiously optimistic to say the least. Long have so many if us sought that one analog vape. For me Paris is just ... Too much. Great, but not an adv ciggie vape. Patriot? It is overrated IMHO and that is because it comes closer than most, but to me it is so law yet so far. Somehow there is some element in that juice that seems ...phony to me. It makes the juice work and yet makes me not fall for it. Well...where that juice fails for me at the very last minute this juice succeeds in in spades. Damn this is awesome!!! I actually bought a pack of Spirits a few days ago to make a comparison. This juice is great spirit like tobacco...and then some. Better flavor, cleaner flavor, smoother flavor, it is purified American spirit minus the combustible byproducts. This is ridiculous good stuff. It exceeds expectations. It is the best ciggie vape I have ever had, period. Enhance flavor and purify it, remove carbon dioxide and burning charred crap and boom. Big Spirit is what a true tobacco enthusiast would want from cig tobacco...and what a cigarette SHOULD taste like, period. I am blown away and in instant love with this stuff.
BSMV - wow. This is exactly the kind of hit, balance, just whole package I was looking for from a fruit tobacco. Absolutely outstanding. I have to admit, despite going for a full 60ml I was excited but worried too. Mango is strong stuff that even can funk stuff up if not careful. I figured the vanilla would smoothe this out and even bind it to the tobacco, and given the balance in clay's other blends that sounded hopeful. But would this still be a tobacco first? Well...F yes. A dn good one too!!! Outstanding. There is something magical here...the mango seems like it is a quality of the tobacco itself, not an added ingredient. My other concern was vanilla dominance and we have seen that with oh so many juices. Nope, it is perfectly subtle and serves merely to bind the two into one fabulously singing note of quality tobacco. This is a really great tobacco vape that hits an net enthusiast the way he wants to be hit. Excellence.
Big Spirit - I was cautiously optimistic to say the least. Long have so many if us sought that one analog vape. For me Paris is just ... Too much. Great, but not an adv ciggie vape. Patriot? It is overrated IMHO and that is because it comes closer than most, but to me it is so law yet so far. Somehow there is some element in that juice that seems ...phony to me. It makes the juice work and yet makes me not fall for it. Well...where that juice fails for me at the very last minute this juice succeeds in in spades. Damn this is awesome!!! I actually bought a pack of Spirits a few days ago to make a comparison. This juice is great spirit like tobacco...and then some. Better flavor, cleaner flavor, smoother flavor, it is purified American spirit minus the combustible byproducts. This is ridiculous good stuff. It exceeds expectations. It is the best ciggie vape I have ever had, period. Enhance flavor and purify it, remove carbon dioxide and burning charred crap and boom. Big Spirit is what a true tobacco enthusiast would want from cig tobacco...and what a cigarette SHOULD taste like, period. I am blown away and in instant love with this stuff.
Wow BJ, high praise indeed! Awesome review, and of course equally awesome is how much of a hit the BA Mango Vanilla and the Big Spirit are with you right off the bat! Perhaps the Black Cherry will never quite grab you so thoroughly, and if not, that's ok, for any given person some will be a hit, others a miss. But, it sounds like as long as we keep Mango Vanilla and Big Spirit (and yes, of course your beloved Coventry and Black Cavendish!) around, we've got you as an enthusiastic customer, and that truly makes me smile.
Bravo to you kind sir, for your words and your willingness to take a chance on our products so early on, I am so glad you are enamored by these!
Clay
Ok just got done dripping some of my BA, I definitely don't taste mango or vanilla. I even waited to try it until this morning before I vaped anything else. After reading that last review there has to be something wrong with me lol
Hey Mw, pm incoming, we will take care of this for you. My guess is it isn't you at all, but maybe a mistake on my part, either not adding the right extract or something. We'll get it sorted out very soon, per your response to the PM.
My Chris' Blend is starting to mature nicely. I am liking it a lot now. I am getting a kind of nutty vanilla taste and perhaps a hint of caramel.
New Order number 202 placed. Reorder on Coventry and Chris's Blend. Trying the Black Cavendish. Maybe Coventry and Cris's blend will last me more than one day this time.
Thank you!
Hi Clay and thanks for your kind words. I am waiting for these liquids to steep to what I consider to be their apex before I speak in depth about my experience with them or even if a liquid just takes that next step and the flavours start to crystallize and take form. I've sampled Chris' Blend (cold) again I am noticing it has started to take shape a bit. I am beginning to notice a mild nutiness, vanilla and a hint of something else, maybe caramel. I still think it needs a bit more time.
I also sampled black cavendish (cold) again today and it too is getting sharper and flavoursome. I love that sweetness. It's such a natural integrated kind of sweetness, almost like a sucrose that arises out fruit. Black Cavendish is getting better everyday.
I haven't followed up on the other liquids as yet as I am still in the process of unpacking and my rotation isn't as capricious as it usually is. I've been sticking to just a few liquids. In the next few days I will return to some of the others.
I also sampled black cavendish (cold) again today and it too is getting sharper and flavoursome. I love that sweetness. It's such a natural integrated kind of sweetness, almost like a sucrose that arises out fruit. Black Cavendish is getting better everyday.
I haven't followed up on the other liquids as yet as I am still in the process of unpacking and my rotation isn't as capricious as it usually is. I've been sticking to just a few liquids. In the next few days I will return to some of the others.
Hey AnthonyB! Thanks for the revisit and I'm happy that steeping is working for these flavors! That slightly caramel nutty vanilla is what I taste in CB as well. I think Bronze mentioned something similar to his palate as well!
Enjoy that unpacking sir!
Coventry - Heat, 70/30, 18mg
I'm just finishing up my 5ml sample of Coventry and have to say I am struggling trying to figure this one out. The flavor changed quite a bit from the first ml to the last ml. It started out as a pleasant, light vanilla flavor with a distinctive tobacco background. I get none of the vanilla now and it has transformed more into a medium cigar flavor. I'm convinced my atty has as much to do with it as anything. I use CE3 bottom coils to sample with. On occasion, they act up and tend to burn the juice. I can't say it has burned my Coventry because it doesn't taste bad. But I believe it knocked out the pleasant vanilla flavor I was experiencing in the beginning. And it was quite pleasant! I'll have to give this one another go at some point in the future. Even at its worst it was still good.
Advice: Stay away from CE3's. Great cheapy attys when they work but they're the moodiest attys ever marketed (they're small and simple and cheap and good for sampling...at least they have been). I think I'm going to deep six the ones I have. I've had enough of their antics.
I'm just finishing up my 5ml sample of Coventry and have to say I am struggling trying to figure this one out. The flavor changed quite a bit from the first ml to the last ml. It started out as a pleasant, light vanilla flavor with a distinctive tobacco background. I get none of the vanilla now and it has transformed more into a medium cigar flavor. I'm convinced my atty has as much to do with it as anything. I use CE3 bottom coils to sample with. On occasion, they act up and tend to burn the juice. I can't say it has burned my Coventry because it doesn't taste bad. But I believe it knocked out the pleasant vanilla flavor I was experiencing in the beginning. And it was quite pleasant! I'll have to give this one another go at some point in the future. Even at its worst it was still good.
Advice: Stay away from CE3's. Great cheapy attys when they work but they're the moodiest attys ever marketed (they're small and simple and cheap and good for sampling...at least they have been). I think I'm going to deep six the ones I have. I've had enough of their antics.
Our takes on CB and BC are similar Anthony. I'm not a big nutty/caramel fan but it is a quality vape and for those who like that profile I'm certain they will enjoy Chris' Blend. It produces plenty of flavor and vapor. I also share your views on Black Cavendish. I enjoyed the smoky flavor from the beginning. It has a perfect sweetness level for my tastes. I expected it to get old after awhile and it didn't...it kept growing on me (because the sweetness was well balanced). I have more sampling to do but I will pick up a larger bottle of Black Cavendish to be sure.
I too, right from the beginning, felt that these liquids need a good long steep and that is a positive comment from me because I really like them already but can tell there is a lot of development needed for them to reach their potential. I estimate 5-6 weeks for them to really start hitting their straps.
I just tried my sampler of Chris's Blend (heat) following quite a startling review of them tasting and smelling like mothballs. I can't say I smell or taste anything like mothballs in CB. Actually I am liking the heat extraction. Just today I noticed the flavours starting to crystallize in CB Cold and I like this heat extracted variation on CB. It's got more punch, brighter and lighter. In the heat version, the subtle intermingling of vanilla and nuttiness is not yet coming through.
I just tried my sampler of Chris's Blend (heat) following quite a startling review of them tasting and smelling like mothballs. I can't say I smell or taste anything like mothballs in CB. Actually I am liking the heat extraction. Just today I noticed the flavours starting to crystallize in CB Cold and I like this heat extracted variation on CB. It's got more punch, brighter and lighter. In the heat version, the subtle intermingling of vanilla and nuttiness is not yet coming through.
Cross posted from 'Natural Tobaccco' in GLD so Clay can comment.
Ok, I've been trying NETCOM Coventry, Chris' Blend and Dover Court. All cold 70/30 12mg. My favorite is C'sB, followed by Coventry. I don't really care for Dover Court. It's just a bit too strong. I got Coventry and C'sBlend Heat for my 2 samplers. I'm sorry to say, but I get a strong mothball taste. It's toned down from when it was fresh ~30 days ago, but still there and very unpleasant. Clay, why is this? Are you using moth balls in the heat extraction?
Please don't think I'm dissing you or NETCOM. I'm just trying to find out w tf I'm tasting that and if others are, too. And yes, it is moth balls I'm tasting. Do you use mothballs in your house? If so, that's a strong link.
This worries me a bit because I ordered a 30ml of Big Spirit. Which is only available in 'Heat'. I'll reserve judgment until I try it. And I AM excited to try it along with the Mango Vanilla I ordered.
The Virginia has really bloomed in Chris's Blend, as has the Cavendish. I assume it's a type of vanilla Cavendish, but I could be wrong on that.
Coventry is actually a fairly similar liquid although I like C'sB more. I prefer the Turkish in C'sB over the Burley in Coventry. But they'll both be vaped up rather quickly. Oh, for those wondering it took a ~1 month for these to start coming around. I assume if you steep them for 3+ months magic will happen.
Clay, did you understand that my sample request was 'cold extraction' gold? I just put cold gold but after I clicked order I thought maybe that wasn't really clear.
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