Nebula and 901 batteries?

[macpanda]

So maybe I heard wrong but the Nebula carts fit on 901 batteries right?

My question is... Does the Nebula carts have holes so that it works on the 901 batteries? Because I heard the Vapor Kings fit 901 batteries but don't work since the 901 batteries don't have holes and either do the carts so there is no air flow. It would be nice to know if the Nebula carts are different and can work fully on a 901 battery because replacing batteries would be a whole lot easier this way.

If anyone can answer this I would much apreciate it. Thanks

 

[aldo]

I think The threads are the same but since the 901 battery has no holes in it ....like the Nebula (808d-1...vapor king...etc) batteries ....you can not draw from it....at another thread (i am not shure where) it explains how to put a hole in the 901 battery.

 

[syntaxevasion]

Yeah, I was going to get a drill press the other day so I can start drilling some holes in my batteries.. It should be fairly simple with the right tools

Ben

 

[PhiHalcyon]

Due to having the same thread pitch and diameter, the Nebula's batteries can, without any modification, be charged with a 901 charger. But, in order to use a 901 battery on a Nebula atomizer cartridge, it may be necessary to carefully drill four small holes into the threaded connector of the battery. (See: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sposable-atomizer-spy-shots-3.html#post175377 )

Another approach that was suggested in that same thread was to convert a dead 901 atomizer into an adapter by removing the contents of the atomizer (except the threaded connector), and adding the threaded connector from a dead 901 battery to the cartridge-end of the emptied atomizer. You would just need to solder a wire between the two center contact points, and, if you prefer, shorten the atomizer body.

This latter approach has not yet been confirmed to work, but it does seem promising.

 

[robw]

This just begs for a 901 to 801 mod

 

[EDO]

Why not just cut some notches on the carts? With a file it could be done in 30 seconds.

 

[PhiHalcyon]

EDO,

I don't yet have the benefit of actually possessing my Nebulas, so I am not yet able to definitively determine whether or not your notching idea would work. My only reason for being interested in 901 compatibility is due to the fact that I recently purchased a 901 passthrough; and, in regards to that, I would rather drill the prerequiste holes once and for all than to have to notch every disposable Nebula cartridge I may want to use with my passthrough. Nonetheless, I suspect that the performance and simplicity upgrades of the Nebula are going to far outweigh any concerns about 901 compatibility.

 

[EDO]

PhiHalcyon,

I don;t have the Nebula yet either. I didn't do a good job of it but...my point was that if you are going to make adapter for it....it would be much simpler to cut notches in the cartridge and test to see if that works out first. Meaning if notches in the cartridge doesn't work out...then the adapter wont work either. If the notches in the cartridge works out then it be a good bet that the adapter would work as well. If you can actually make the holes in the battery than obviously that would be ideal....but I suppose most people wouldn't be able to that.

 

[PhiHalcyon]

EDO,

I agree that the hole-drilling will not be for everyone. Nor is the task of making an adapter. And in this respect, your notching idea would (if it worked) be the most likely of the three to be something that everyone could easily do. I'm just not yet sure exactly what the air-flow path on the Nebula is. I suspect that air enters the Nebula cartridge through the hole in the center contact piece, and if so, then the adapter idea should work just fine. Even if this is not the case, the presumably-required holes on the threaded connector of a 901 battery would seem to indicate that air must get into the area surrounding the center contact piece(s) in order to get to the atomizer cartridge; and if so, then how are notches on the atomizer cartridge going to enable this? It may well be that a notch-solution could be as easy as making notches on the lip of the threaded connector of the 901 battery (rather than on the Nebula atomizer cartridge); but this would assume that a sufficient amount of air can travel through a fully assembled thread connection.

 

[EDO]

Phi...both of us are just making assumptions here...but here is my logic..Do you have a 401? The air flow on a 401 comes from the notches (not holes) on the atomizer lip. I understand your point about air traveling through the threads...It doesn't make sense how that works but some how it works with the 401s. Now maybe this won't work with the 901s...or the the Nebula. IF you know some one with the Vk and a 901 battery this can be tested quite easily.

 

[PhiHalcyon]

EDO,

Well, you're certainly right about the heavy dose of speculation that we are engaging in here. This is why I have contented myself with the bonus of knowing that I will at least be able to salvage some meaningful value out of my 901 home charger. If I am also able to salvage my 901 batteries & passthrough, then that would be great as well; but since my biggest problem with my 901 has been short-lived atomizers, I am more interested in solving that problem with the Nebula set-up than I am in being able to use my 901 accessories with it.

Nonetheless, I do remember a VK user commenting on how his atomizer cartridges would work with some of his 901 batteries, but not all. I presume that he was referring to unmodified batteries - which would beg the question as to how an unmodified 901 battery could possibly work with a VK atomizer cartridge. If we assume that air can indeed travel through the threads of an assembled unit (as your 401 reference would seem to imply), then perhaps the difference between the unmodified 901 batteries that did and didn't work with the VK atomizer cartridges was simply how long the threaded connector on the battery was. If it was long enough to greatly or entirely restrict air-flow into the center contact area, then it wouldn't work; but if it happened to be just a little shorter, then it would work. And if this is the case, then I'm sure you can understand why I said that notching the lip of the threaded connector on the 901 battery may be all that is necessary.

One thing seems reasonably certain, and that is that there IS a way to make the Nebula cartridges work on a 901 battery. The only question is which is the best and/or easiest way.

 

[EDO]

Go to vapor4life suppliers forum....there is a thread there....the new ats are disappointing. Some of the people have these newer ats that have large notches on the lip of the cartridges. I asked them to try and use these on their 901 batteries. Lets hope some of those guys have a 901 battery....I bet those cartridges/ats were designed to work with 901 batteries. Lets see....


Edit: Vapor4life...changed the title of the thread to Questions about new atomizers.

 

[PhiHalcyon]

The only thing I'm hoping for is a call to let me know that my Nebulas are ready.

 

[UkUsa]

I ordered my nebula cartomizers tonight .

I had some time at work today to play and made my adapter. Sorry guys no photos but it works with a regular 901 when i screw the adapted one on the batt and then screw the working att on the end. Obviously have to cover the extra hole for testing, but it worked.

As this was a prototype i didn't solder anything. I took a single strand of phone wire, passed it through the center hole of the battery end of a hollowed out atomizer. Made a small hook on that end of the wire to hook onto the outside of the center connection. Slid the other connector over the end of the wire and into the atomizer body. Trimmed the wire down just long enough to be able to make a hook on that end. Screwed everything together and yay, success. I'm thinking if i go further with this idea then i would definitley cut down the adaptor length and find a more flexible piece of wire to go from end to end. But for now this will work enough to test out the theory.

Now just have to wait for the mail then playtime will really begin.

My main goal for these though for use with mods like my usb supply or a juice box style mod where there will be airflow through the center connection anyway. If i can give myself more options the all the better. If not then i can keep my 901 atomizers for use when not at the comp.

 

[PhiHalcyon]

UkUsa,

Congrats on your progress and first positive test. I'm sure that I'm not alone in being interested to learn how your adapter idea works out. But, even though I understand why you used the hooked wire as a temporary means of establishing a connection between your two center contacts, I think you should find an alternative approach before trying to test it on the Nebula cartridges. For, the hooked wires will act as a spacer that will probably affect air-flow in a way that will not be present in your final/soldered version. If you don't want to solder yet, then perhaps you can use a couple of wire terminals that will fit on the internal side of the center contacts - but without interfering with the air-flow.

 

[UkUsa]

UkUsa,

Congrats on your progress and first positive test. I'm sure that I'm not alone in being interested to learn how your adapter idea works out. But, even though I understand why you used the hooked wire as a temporary means of establishing a connection between your two center contacts, I think you should find an alternative approach before trying to test it on the Nebula cartridges. For, the hooked wires will act as a spacer that will probably affect air-flow in a way that will not be present in your final/soldered version. If you don't want to solder yet, then perhaps you can use a couple of wire terminals that will fit on the internal side of the center contacts - but without interfering with the air-flow.

Good points there Phil. I realised once i tried it that to solder a wire between the two ends is a royal PITA. That's why i went with the wire method for a test while i ponder over an easier method of connecting the two ends.

I do have an idea in mind, just need to see if i can find the part small enough.

If nothing else this has been something fun to keep my mind occupied while i wait for the postman

 

[EDO]

I had ordered a 901 to see what every one was so impressed with in threads I've been reading lately. Anyway, I am not impressed with the 901 at all....my m401 blows it away. I got some Nebula compatible carts from another supplier. I decided to do a mod on the 901 batteries. First I noticed there small notches on the carts I got...so no need to modify the carts in anyway. I got the 901 battery and my hacksaw and 30seconds later the 901 battery was modified to work with the new carts. All you have to do is to cut perpendicularly through the threads. So with the LED pointing down...put the hacksaw on the battery contact (obviously try to center as best as you can) and cut downwards until you go through all the threads. Unfortunately.....I notice that my 901 battery has a 2 second cutoff...so I am not enjoying the mod as much as I would like. Also the 901 batteries are very weak....you can only vape moderately for about 1-1.25 hrs. I just hope the nebula batteries last longer and have a longer cutoff....2 sec cutoff is just ridiculous.

 

[syntaxevasion]

I had ordered a 901 to see what every one was so impressed with in threads I've been reading lately. Anyway, I am not impressed with the 901 at all....my m401 blows it away. I got some Nebula compatible carts from another supplier. I decided to do a mod on the 901 batteries. First I noticed there small notches on the carts I got...so no need to modify the carts in anyway. I got the 901 battery and my hacksaw and 30seconds later the 901 battery was modified to work with the new carts. All you have to do is to cut perpendicularly through the threads. So with the LED pointing down...put the hacksaw on the battery contact (obviously try to center as best as you can) and cut downwards until you go through all the threads. Unfortunately.....I notice that my 901 battery has a 2 second cutoff...so I am not enjoying the mod as much as I would like. Also the 901 batteries are very weak....you can only vape moderately for about 1-1.25 hrs. I just hope the nebula batteries last longer and have a longer cutoff....2 sec cutoff is just ridiculous.

Yeah, the cutoff is indeed longer... Batery life too from what I've experienced. I tried the hacksaw trick the other day but my saw had way too big jaggy things..TEETH, that's the word I'm lookin' for.

Ben