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Karolis

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Hi there,

So, I'm an ex smoker, and as my girlfriend is still smoking all the time I find it extremely hard not to start smoking cigarettes again. So now I'm here, deciding which e-cig to buy :)

I'm living in UK, so i'm considering these options:
http://www.skycig.co.uk/sky-cig-kit
[URL="http://www.gecigarette.co.uk/products/116-genesis-510-kit.aspx"]http://www.gecigarette.co.uk/products/116-genesis-510-kit.aspx
[URL="http://www.vipelectroniccigarette.co.uk/bundle-kit-menthol-flavour-p-77.html"]http://www.vipelectroniccigarette.co.uk/bundle-kit-menthol-flavour-p-77.html
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The last looks like the best for me so far (i dont mind about menthol flavour). Could anyone check these and tell me their opinions? Or any suggestions?

I'm a student, so the price is really essential for me :D

Thank you!
 

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That genesis e-cig looks like it will be the most universal as it is a standard 510 kit which you can always get replacement parts for. I'd suggest looking into different vendors for different 510 starter kits or eGo style starter kits as those will give you the most options. You should also decide whether an atomizer, cartomizer or tank will work best for your needs and find a juice vendor to order sample packs from as a cost effective way to find a flavor you like (also a great way to save some money as the pre-filled cartos are usually much less bang for your buck).
 

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General rule of thumb: If the sites advertises 20+ cigarettes per cartridge / cartomizer then avoid like the plague. Rip off merchants. You won't get anywhere near the supposed advertised cigarettes. You'll get 1 or 2...maybe 3 cigarettes from a standard size 510 cartridge or cartomizer.

I would get either a 510 kit (titan) from totally wicked or if you want a bigger battery consider an ego type battery.

If it must look like a cigarette maybe consider the Libero Realis, it's the same size as a normal cig but comes with a big portable charging case which means it will keep it charged up throughout the day. I think TECC does one as well.

Buy Liberro™ Realis Electronic Cigarette Realistic All in One Starter Pack | Libero shop - £35.00

Microlite Cartomiser Kit - White
 
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It depends on how ofter you vape and the PV you use. Some people using high powered dual coil cartos or dripping can go through 1ml of juice in an hour where as a light vaper using a standard resistance carto may get a day or more out of 1ml. I'm somewhere between a moderate to heavy vaper, but use the Boge SR carto which holds about 1ml of juice and I go through about two of those a day.
 
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AS others have stated:

Rule of Thumb: the more it looks like the real thing, the worse the performance.

Get the Riva 510 from Liberty Flights with manual batteries as already mentioned. Get some eliquid around 24mg nicotine strength to start out as most need this level to transition away from smoking. Also get some blank cartomizers as they are easier to learn with by filling them with the eliquid you buy.

Remember no eliquid will taste just like a cigarette (analog). Libertiy Flights PG version, Home Counties is the closes I found to a Marlboro or Marlboro light. Their menthols are pretty good, also.
 

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Best priced ecig for what it is? Electronic Cigarettes - Items - FreedomVape (UK) £34.95 with an additional 15% off with free shipping for a pair of 1100mah ego batteries, atomisers, charger and 5ml of juice. That's £29.71 for one of the most recommended ecigs out there, which is wow. There isn't better right now for price to what is does ratio.

What you'll want to do though is buy some 2.0ohm cartomisers from liberty-flights.co.uk to fill with your own liquid. It looks like they took the discount code down for the UK site. It used to be september10 for 10% off but I have no idea if that's still active now the discount code link is gone. You'll want a 5 pack of these at 2.0ohm Electronic Cigarette - Cartomizers - Boge Cartomizers they last about a week or so each depending on useage.

If you want one cigarette sized, there isn't better than the kr808d-1 which you can get from Electronic cigarettes UK –buy Electric cigarette or E-Cigarettes online or Creator/Volt/Revolution it's a two piece, regulated 3.6v battery that's kr808d-1 threaded. I own a pair of these, a pair of egos and a lavatube (well, a lot of other ecigs but those are the ones worth mentioning). I use the kr808d-1s when I go out so they look like cigarettes but I use the lavatbe at home and the egos as a backup.

If I was stretched for money I'd probably take the ego for that price and save up for a lavatube (cheapest one is also on freedomvape) once I know vaping is going to work for me.

If you want to shop around here's a list of UK vendors: ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK - Recommended & new suppliers list

And hey, a fellow scot! :D You're only the second one I've seen besides me of course. Good luck out there man!

So, batteries are the main thing? Also, how long does the juice lasts?

Batteries are almost the least important aspect of the ecig, but you do need a solid battery to start with. What is more important is the ohm rating of what heating element you put on it compared to the voltage you're using with your battery. 2.0ohm on the ego (which is 3.2v roughly) is a pretty ideal setup for heat of vapour and vapour production.

Most people will use 2 - 3 ml of juice a day. It does depend on you and how high the nicotine content is. If you get high nicotine content you wont feel like you need to vape as much, or shouldn't. If you get lower you can vape more of it before you need to stop so it's a personal preference.

p.s. I'd avoid totallywicked on your budget. As good a vendor as they are and what they've done for the ecig market and ecigs in general, everything they sell is usually a fair bit more expensive than anyone else who sells the exact same stuff. Solid vendor, but pricey for it.
 
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Karolis

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Now that's what I call a community! You guys are brilliant!

I'm going to take leftfeild's advice (Thanks very much indeed!) and his recommended ecig :)

The last thing is.. I almost quited smoking, didn't smoke for 2months, then went out of the road again, but never smoked more than 5 a day.. Should I still chose more nicotine?

leftfeild, could you tell me where can I select an amount of nicotine I want when buying from here? Or do I have to buy juice additionally again? You made everything really clear but I'm still a bit confused...
 
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Yes, you can select the mg and what flavour you want. When you place the order, you write what juice you want in the comments box and that's the 5ml one you'll get sent to you :) If you look around the liquids here E-Liquid (120+ Flavours) - Items - FreedomVape (UK) you can say what pg/vg ratio, mg strength and flavour you want out of any of them available here; just write how you want it in the comments box when you make the order for the ego.

They also do a pretty good deal with the pick and mix if you want to order more juice. It's 5 5ml bottles for £12 so you can choose a few. Their ry4, ry4 and caramel are pretty good if you're ok with sweet stuff.

Mh, I'd say maybe to start around 18mg and see how you go. I found 24mg was way too high for me. I think most people start on either 24mg or 18mg.

I just found out about these guys Genesis Electronic Cigarette | E-Liquid | Ejuice | Electric Cig who do insanely cheap liquid so you might want to check them out for more liquid later down the line for vaping on a budget. That's seriously cheap liquid compared to everyone else! I haven't tasted any of their liquids but I'm sure going to for the price.

If you need any more help let me know :)
 
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............Batteries are almost the least important aspect of the ecig, but you do need a solid battery to start with............

This is completely wrong. Batteries are very important. It doesn't matter what ohm atty you put on a 90 mAh auto battery, it will vape like crap.

Warmer vapor, more consistency and less frustration come with better battery models. And the better the battery is, the less you have to care what the ohm rating is because you can use a good range of attys/cartos unlike your mini-batteries that for example, cannot use dual coil cartomizers. It's a waste of time for the majority of vapers to mess with any battery under 650 mAh rating. And I could write several long paragraphs on the advantages and flexibility of 5 volt and variable wattage batteries.
 

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If you're looking for something that looks and feels like a real cigarette then you should get a quality one from a reliable vendor. You should go with what the others have said above, the riva or the titan. I bought a crappy one from a store near me and when it started dying I ended up smoking again within two days. Go for quality and you won't be disappointed.
 

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If you're looking for something that looks and feels like a real cigarette then you should get a quality one from a reliable vendor. You should go with what the others have said above, the riva or the titan. I bought a crappy one from a store near me and when it started dying I ended up smoking again within two days. Go for quality and you won't be disappointed.

One more example of why "batteries" are very important.
 

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This is completely wrong. Batteries are very important. It doesn't matter what ohm atty you put on a 90 mAh auto battery, it will vape like crap.

Warmer vapor, more consistency and less frustration come with better battery models. And the better the battery is, the less you have to care what the ohm rating is because you can use a good range of attys/cartos unlike your mini-batteries that for example, cannot use dual coil cartomizers. It's a waste of time for the majority of vapers to mess with any battery under 650 mAh rating. And I could write several long paragraphs on the advantages and flexibility of 5 volt and variable wattage batteries.

Once you get to 650mah you can use a wide range of ohm ratings, so it's sort of a moot point. If I'd said you can put 1.7ohm cartos on a 90mah battery, that would be completely wrong.

That's why I said you need a solid battery to start with and that it's almost the least important aspect. It is still important to get a good battery. You can't use a low resistance battery on a small battery or like you said, dual coils. When it comes to the differences between 650+mah batteries it's less important. You can put a low resistance heating element on a 3.2v battery and it'll be a hotter vape. You're not stuck with one resistance. It is easier to get a variable volt device to dial in the heat to your preference but if you're on a budget, we're not after a provari or darwin or an extra £20 for a lavatube or similar before batteries and chargers come into it.

Between the ego, riva, kgo, epower, 3.7 box mod etc, it doesn't make a huge difference what one you're using. It's less important then compared to what heating element you put on one of these. I wouldn't stress that you need a provari to be happy vaping, you can be content with a solid battery and the right ohm rating. That's what I meant, not buy a 70mah battery because it doesn't matter :D.

Not trying to step on anyone's toes, I just don't think batteries are the be all and end all of vaping if you have a line up of only good, solid batteries. You also have to consider the ohm rating and what type of heating element to use with it which can be more important. A 3ohm cartomiser is going to be cool on an ego or riva as well as a 70mah battery and an xl bottom coil cartomiser will be cooler than a small top coil cartomiser.
 
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