Need different ecig or better juice?

[dormouse]

Somebody told you to stay away from tobacco flavors? Anything anyone tells you on this board, including me, is not right for everyone. When I started vaping I fortunately discovered that food flavors were giving me a craving for a cigarettes, as if I had just eaten. I have found other people on the forum who had the same problem. They thought vaping wasn't working for them but it was just the food flavors didn't work for them. For the first 6-8 weeks I could only feel satisfied if I vaped tobacco juices. Then I started mixing in flavors in the cart or carto to make the tobacco more interesting like vanilla or caramel, chocolate or cocoa (hit the spot since most US cigarettes have cocoa in them), or a fruit flavor like peach to make peach tobacco. And that led me to be able to vape food flavors alone.

Some other people find the opposite - that they have to stay far away from tobacco flavors to avoid cigarette cravings. And some people can vape any flavor right away. It's important for a new vaper to figure out which they are.

 

[fun2btango]

still like my tobacco flavors throughout the day and coffee flavors in the morning!!

 

[wv2win]

I would not recommend higher nic on a higher voltage PV.......

Why??? Have you ever vaped 24mg liquid at say 5 volts??? Many people vape 24mg (and higher) on 5 volt and variable volt PV's and find it to be the perfect combination. It easily could be just what she needs especially if she feels that vaping does not "feel" like smoking.

Don't scare people just because you like no throat hit, vape small battery PVs and use 6mg nic strength liquid. Thats way out of the norm!!

To the OP, if you think she is still willing to give it another try, definitely get a better battery PV and try some 24mg nicotine strength liquid. It will definitely better simulate the "inhaled feel" of a cigarette. Finding an eliquid that she will like, taste wise, will be the hard part. I would suggest you look at the E-Power as a good "beginner" PV with batteries that provide warmer vapor:

e-Power

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - E-Power

 

[ThaDraGun]

Already have:
3x 306 batteries (white)
2x regular 306 Atomizer
empty orange cartridges for 306

How's this? Trying to pick out items for different options. Then she can try a couple different ways out.

From HealthCabin:

BATTERY for JOYE510 In 10 Colors(Short) $9.00 - Black
5pc Boge 510D Soft Cap Empty Cartomizer(6 colors) $4.50 - Orange
306 Black Delrin Drip Tip $1.00
Atomizer for JOYE510 In 10 Colors $6.00 - Matte Black
5pc Empty cartridges for JOYE510 $1.50 - Black

Subtotal: $22.00

Are these the right ones? I cant tell if the Boge is the same as the one suggested. Also, do you need a syringe to fill it properly (I dont know if they will allow that through customs)

Figured These will be the options

306 like normal.
510 like normal.
306 atomizer, 510 manual battery and drip tip
306 atomizer, 510 manual battery, 306 cartridge
510 manual battery, Boge 510
306 auto battery, Boge 510

Then a couple small bottles of 24mg ejuice

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Well, I'm not sure how much better a Joye 510 is vs. a 306. The 510 runs at about 3.2 volts. To get more flavour out of your liquid, the juice should have more PG in it. If you're already using 70% PG or something else, maybe you need a different kit. But, you can also try just getting different juices in sampler packs to see what she likes.

As far as your sample order goes, it looks fine. You might consider getting a 510 drip tip as well.

If you really need a system with a little more kick, I'm sure we'll all have lots of suggestions for you. Canada Customs currently has a problem with importing juice, cartridges and cartomizers. You should be reaonably safe if you avoid those items from an American site. They have stopped the occasional hardware shipment even though that should be ok. Having said that, all my packages have gone through. (Yay, me. )

If you need another kit that looks like a cigarette, you can get a Smokeless Image Volt from Smokeless Image (US site) or BestVapour.ca (Canadian site). You can also get a similar KR808D-1 system from CdnVapor.ca. Unfortunately, it's not compatible with your current 306 items, but it does work better than a 510.

If you go back to MadVapes.com, you might be interested in trying out a 5-volt passthrough. You'll need a USB wall adapter to plug it into (don't plug it into a computer). If she likes 5 volts, they have a Maxi Roughstack (you need the longer Maxi tube) that she might like that goes with a 4.8 NiMh long battery (separate item).

 

[pimpe]

Ok there is a few thing that can improve the experience.

I am talking from personal experience.

I tried e cig around 18 months ago and got myself a 801 starter kit with 8 mg juice ....
thinking it would be close to a Mild Seven lights.

But i was very disappointed...
No throat kill, didn't kill the craving... no taste.....it was like breathing air....
so after 1 week i stop using it and though e cig is crap.....

now just 1 month ago i decide i really need to start quiting analog cigs and feel just that little bit healther...
did some research ...and ended up getting one of the best ecig that money can buy...an apex ultramax
it was alot of money ...as i paid over $400usd with juice + extra battery for both 3.7 and 6v and extra atomizers.
There are alot of different ones that are also very good like Golden Greek ...Super-T precise...etc

I ended up get 2 bottles of 18mg and 2 bottle of 24mg.

Now i vapor on 6v on 24mg and it kills the craving on the spot..
it give me more throat kick than let say full strength cigs ....
sometimes at night i just do 18mg on LR atty on 3.7v to easy off the nicotine before i sleep.

But then ya with a good atti, good unit and the right strenght of juicy (i would recommend double what she normally smokes to start of with then slowly cut back)
it can easily replace normal cigs anyday.

Yes some of the units are a bit big but then some are quite small as well.
and they look very nice .....it like carrying a expensive pen around...

So if you love your wife then maybe invest a bit more on a better unit and get a few different strenght of juicy and flavor and see what works for her.

Good luck.

 

[ThaDraGun]

passthrough is definately not an option.

Wont the 306 drip tip work on the 510 as well?
Also for the 510 cartridges, I know its all personal preference... but what do you think flat or round tip better?

 

[ThaDraGun]

Wow $400 is definitely too much. Thats good for you tho pimpe. Glad you found something that worked for you. It works for you, so you will save the money in the long run. I'm just not sure how dedicated the wife will be. Also, there's a big chance that it could get confiscated at customs. No way am I taking that big of a chance. $20 is not too big of a deal if they take it.

How do you know what mg is in a certain brand of real cigs? On the side of the dumaurier pack it says something like 1mg if I remember right. obviously they calculate it differently then what I'm looking for in ejuice.

 

[pimpe]

The strengh of normal cigs are usually on the side of the box... but some don't say it. You can google it up if you know exactly what she smokes. so if she smokes 1mg cigs then i would try at less a 24mg juice if not 32mg.

I think it is better to over kill at first and give her that wow factor than to disappoint.

the cheaper option is to just get a stronger juice and a better atty. maybe try one of these LR duo coil ones. They give very good vap. and the throat kick will come from the nicotine.

Ya i know $400 is alot but i break even in 40 days...considering it is like $13 a pack here. Aus $ and Can $ is almost 1 to 1 . so ya it is bloody expensive. And this is for 6 months supply...lol

Give the juice and Atty a try first and see how that goes. that will be around the $20 mark..

is Ecig illegal in canada???

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Regarding the legal status. You can own an e-cigarette and vape nicotine in Canada, but you can't sell or import nicotine liquid. And apparently Canada Customs has a problem with cartomizers (blank or not) as well, now.

Regarding the drip tip. You need a 306 drip tip for a 306 atomizer and you need a 510 drip tip for a 510 atomizer. The 510 drip tip will also work on a 901 atomizer.

Regarding cartridges. I'm just not crazy about them. You can try cutting up Fluval (fish filter) for faster juice flow, but cartomizers are generally more satisfying. Cartomizers are just shorter-lived than atomizers.

Regarding dual coil cartomizers. The SmokTech dual coil and Boge LR cartomizers are nice, but they won't work with your current kit. You would need an eGo, E-Power or better to use the LR cartomizers. If she's open to something a little bigger than a cigarette, the eGo, which is about the size of a Sharpie marker, is a good kit. And I'm recommending a regular eGo over the eGo-T system. But, if you can get eGo-T batteries with an eGo kit, that's a better deal.

 

[delabs]

Hi, I was the same way at first-I thought this doesn't cut it. Anyway I smoked a pack a day. When I finally found what worked for me I never craved a regular cigarette again For hardware try the EGO VARIABLE VOLT. Not too expensive and that way your wife could just click the button to see where it's the best hit for her. I prefer weaker in the am then a harder hit as the day goes on. I got mine at GOTVAPES.COM As far as flavors I needed 36 mg, and am now at 24mg. Check out DIY FLAVOR SHACK. Dawn is very very helpful, great with newbies and will get back to you very quickly. I haven't gotten a bad juice from them yet! I love their cappuccino and the flue cured flavor.
Good luck!

 

[Mindfield]

is Ecig illegal in canada???

Not illegal as such. There are no laws against it and you won't get any of your stuff confiscated if a cop sees you with it. Health Canada is just following about a year behind the FDA's footsteps foisting an embargo on eJuice (and recently cartomizers because they "may contain traces of nicotine" -- what a steaming load, however I've also heard all E-cig merch will get turned back at the border) and basically playing high school bully against vapers. But as with the US, we're fighting back -- if on a smaller scale -- and I hope we can make the same progress as the US and UK on these fronts. The sooner the better.

 

[Coil]

Yeah not knocking anyone for spending $400.00 on they're own personal enjoyment but if it's for your spouse that still isn't too sure about the whole vaping thing I'd go with something under $100. Heck if you spend $50 on an EGO or RIVA kit or a VOLT, KR808 etc and the right hardware you'd probably be set. I like Atty Pops reply the best though. It's really up to her. I can't blame ya one bit for trying though sir!

 

[Mindfield]

Yeah not knocking anyone for spending $400.00 on they're own personal enjoyment but if it's for your spouse that still isn't too sure about the whole vaping thing I'd go with something under $100. Heck if you spend $50 on an EGO or RIVA kit or a VOLT, KR808 etc and the right hardware you'd probably be set. I like Atty Pops reply the best though. It's really up to her. I can't blame ya one bit for trying though sir!

Here's what you do: Get an awesome mod. Buzz Pro, ProVari, Darwin, whatever tickles your fancy. Give it to her. If she loves it and it works for her, you get to act jealous and say you want one, then she'll have to let you because she feels guilty that she has the better PV. If she doesn't like it, you get to keep it anyway.

 

[ThaDraGun]

The SmokTech dual coil and Boge LR cartomizers are nice, but they won't work with your current kit. You would need an eGo, E-Power or better to use the LR cartomizers.

Why wont the Boge work with my stuff... I thought they work with the 510, dont they? Is this the same thing that you're talking about: "5pc Boge 510D Soft Cap Empty Cartomizer" thats the description from the healthcabin site that I was going to order.

 

[AttyPops]

I think what bobsyeruncle is saying is about recommended ohm ratings for use on super-mini (cig sized) stuff. Assuming the connections work (510->510) the LR atomizers are not recommended for use on the small battery cig-sized devices. They are recommended for big-batt e-cigs like those he listed.

That said, you can try em. It will stress the battery, probably causing it to fail earlier, and turn the already abysmal charge duration into something truly horrendous. I don't think those small batteries can put out enough amps to fry the electronics, just stress the battery. I'd have some standard ohm stuff and a few spare batteries around if I was doing that. Probably better to stick above 2.0 ohms for starters.

EDIT: Also, they don't put out enough amps to effectively fire a dual-coil carto. DCs are two 3.2 ohm coils... like vaping 2 3.2 ohm e-cigs at once.

 

[bobsyeruncle]

As stated above, the low-resistance stuff stresses your battery. The standard 306 and 510 atomizers run at about 2.3 ohms. Your link "5pc Boge 510D Soft Cap Empty Cartomizer" actually shows Boge regular resistance and low resistance cartomizers on the same page. The regular resistance cartomizers might actually be too high to get good performance out of them. The Boge low resistance cartomizers might actually work, but kill your battery life. And the SmokTech dual cartomizers are recommended for an eGo or better.