Need help! ProVari or eGo Twist or.....

[wseyller]

I see this around the forum a lot. Its not correct.
Voltage over the battery voltage must come from somewhere, and when looking how long will the battery last, you shouldn't be looking at the current going through the atty, but the current being drained from the battery.
In other words, if you set your device to 5V, and you have a battery giving ~3,7V, the drain from the battery gets higher. There's also some loss in the booster circuit, since nothing is 100% efficient.

And that is where get my info is this forum. I am not an electronics engineer but with that said. I have experienced a situation which two different cartos. One is a smoketech 1.5 single coil that came with my tank. I bought 3 ohm smoketechs which I have inside another tank. I vape at the same wattage. The 1.5 eats the battery life while the 3 ohm last me much longer. I repeated this with similiar results.

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[John1952]

If I had it to do all over again, I would buy a bunch of eGo Twists rather than a Provari. I like my Provari (a lot!), but it's really not suitable for taking out of the house. And I don't think I've ever cranked it up higher than 5 volts and kept it there.

 

[wseyller]

If I had it to do all over again, I would buy a bunch of eGo Twists rather than a Provari. I like my Provari (a lot!), but it's really not suitable for taking out of the house. And I don't think I've ever cranked it up higher than 5 volts and kept it there.

I have a kgo for all which I bought before my provari. I use it when the provari is too big, too heavy, too to expensive to risk. I rather have regulated voltage.

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[2GLR]

The battery capacity numbers given for e cigs aren't very good. To be more accurate a true battery capacity needs to include mah at a specified voltage and discharge rate.

 

[dragonbone]

If I had it to do all over again, I would buy a bunch of eGo Twists rather than a Provari. I like my Provari (a lot!), but it's really not suitable for taking out of the house. And I don't think I've ever cranked it up higher than 5 volts and kept it there.

Same here !

 

[X P3 Flight Engineer]

I have a kgo for all which I bought before my provari. I use it when the provari is too big, too heavy, too to expensive to risk. I rather have regulated voltage.

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In case you haven't heard, The Twist is a regulated, buck boost, 3.7 volt battery. The voltage does not drop from the set voltage under load and remains where ever it is set until it needs recharge.

It is limited by the 650, 900, or 1000mah battery. It is not a welder by any means, but it gives a consistent vape in a reasonable wattage range for a minimum cash outlay.

You can get less machine for less money,
more machine for more money,
but you cannot get more machine for the same money.

 

[Flyer]

It is limited to to 2.5A though as I understand. Provari, LT V3, Darwin and others provide much more. Not dissing the twist.

 

[wseyller]

In case you haven't heard, The Twist is a regulated, buck boost, 3.7 volt battery. The voltage does not drop from the set voltage under load and remains where ever it is set until it needs recharge.

It is limited by the 650, 900, or 1000mah battery. It is not a welder by any means, but it gives a consistent vape in a reasonable wattage range for a minimum cash outlay.

You can get less machine for less money,
more machine for more money,
but you cannot get more machine for the same money.

I didnt realize it was regulated. Sounding more impressive to me. If it works good consistantly without an epidemic of issues them I am fine with it. Just because it sounds good on paper doesnt mean it is worth the purchase, even when considering the price. Any device has a % of defects and has a possibility to fail you should always have a backup. The provari is proven and I trust it fully. But I will keep an open mind about the twist and may even recommend it as an alternate to a Kgo depending on the buyers needs. I may buy one just so I can evaluate it for myself.

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[X P3 Flight Engineer]

It is limited to to 2.5A though as I understand. Provari, LT V3, Darwin and others provide much more. Not dissing the twist.

About 6 months ago the ProVari and LT were limited to 2.5 amps, today they are not.

If you are trying to say that you can get more machine for more money, I think everyone will agree with you.

I am Relaxing and Enjoying!

 

[Flyer]

About 6 months ago the ProVari and LT were limited to 2.5 amps, today they are not.

If you are trying to say that you can get more machine for more money, I think everyone will agree with you.

I am Relaxing and Enjoying!

Ya, guess that's what I was trying to say.

 

[X P3 Flight Engineer]

I think everyone on this thread has found something that they can Happily vape on. That's a good thing!

Let's everyone Vape to that!

 

[lauragal]

So I'm still waiting for my ProVari mini order in the mail - in the meantime, I bought and eGo twist so I could compare it to my other vv. I like the twist, and it is better than my other vv, however, I have two gripes about it - I CANNOT see the numbers on the twist, even with my glasses on - drives me nuts. And I don't like that there is no way to tell the status of the battery - I guess when it dies, it just dies and you re-charge it. On my other vv, it shows the battery level, which is a handy feature.

But other than that, it's gives a good vape. Some juices seem burnt-tasting at the highest volt (so I'm imagining it will be more so with the ProVari?). Will just have to test out different juices at different levels

 

[sailorman]

Just wondering....
Will the 650mah Twist vape as long as a 650 Kgo or does the added electronics make it less efficient?
I assume vaping at lower voltages (given the same carto resistance) will extend the vape time.
How does the voltage setting impact how long you can vape between charges?
If I get 5 hours out of a 650 mah Kgo, will I get the same out of a 650mah Twist if I vape at 3.7 volts?

Just ordered a 650mah Twist to see what all the fuss is about. The 1000 mah seemed too long to fit comfortably in my jeans pocket.

A VV PV doesn't last as long as a fixed voltage, especially when you're using a higher voltage. Higher voltage and/or lower resistance means more amp draw. Batteries are rated in how long they can take a drain of milliamps, which is 1000/amp.

A 650mah battery can take a .65A draw for an hour, continuously.

So the more amps being drawn, the shorter the life. Plus, the electronics are not 100% efficient, so even if you only ran a VV at the same voltage as a fixed voltage PV, it would still have a shorter time between charges.

 

[sailorman]

Some juices seem burnt-tasting at the highest volt (so I'm imagining it will be more so with the ProVari?).

Not necessarily. You can vape at 6V without burning if you are using the right resistance. This is an example of how the Provangelists are wrong when they imply that the magical Provari relieves you of having to pay attention to what relation volts, ohms and watts have. There are distinct advantages to knowing that stuff and to using higher resistance cartos with higher voltage. If you don't bother to learn about resistance, voltage and watts, you might as well stick to the Twist and not waste your money.

 

[lauragal]

I had a feeling that was the problem - so higher volts = higher resistance cartos. I have to get more organized on separating my cartos upon arrival - I empty them from the box and keep them in a nice compartment case so they are all mixed together and I have no idea which one is low resistance and which are the higher resistance. I understand NOW it's important to know which resistance I'm using! Thanks

 

[Pigsticker]

I actually would go with a lavatube. Slightly more expensive than the twist, but much less than the provari. It has most of the same features as the provari (variable voltage, check battery charge) but weighs much less. You would need 2 twists in rotation for vaping. I have a couple of batteries in roatation (never been stuck without a charged one since I got it 3 months ago). My wife and I ordered ours from apollo. Fast and friendly.

 

[Dana A]

I use the exact same thing at the exact same volts LOL

Single coil. I use 3.0 ohm around 5v which is 8.3 Watts. It depends on the juice. Basically start low on the voltage and increase it 0.1v at a time until you get that sweet spot. It varies with the juice. Also one carto may ohm out different from one to another. Good thing is the provari has a built in ohm meter to check your atomizers resistance.

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[lauragal]

I've already bought the Provari and just got a notice that it shipped. I'm looking forward to using it - I don't mind the weight as it won't be my "on the go" battery. I have a lot of batteries, so I won't be without one!

 

[wseyller]

I had a feeling that was the problem - so higher volts = higher resistance cartos. I have to get more organized on separating my cartos upon arrival - I empty them from the box and keep them in a nice compartment case so they are all mixed together and I have no idea which one is low resistance and which are the higher resistance. I understand NOW it's important to know which resistance I'm using! Thanks

Good this is your Provai can check the resistance of your atomizers for you.

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[lauragal]

I use the exact same thing at the exact same volts LOL

How is the draw on the higher resistance? I tend to like a tighter draw