Need serious help breaking analog mental cycle ?

[Arriss]

I'm with Hobbs. I vape a 1.5 ohm coil at about 7 watts. When I first quit analogs (5+ years ago), I would chain vape, too, I think due to the fact that an e-cig never goes out. It's a mental switch from smoking until you finish a cigarette, to just taking a hit once in a while when you need it. That being said, it's been over 5 years, but I still vape 24 mg. I just vape less often. I don't usually vape tobacco flavors, but when I'm stressed some RY4 seems to hit the spot.

Congrats, analog free for 5 years ! I wish I could achieve that for a day, Lol !!! I truly believe my nerve condition play's a big factor in my analog/vaping habit. When my nerves are calm, my cravings decrease. Just need to find a way to keep my nerves calm. Hopefully WTA works for me. Thanks for feedback.

 

[Arriss]

For myself, I was able to find a juice that tasted like my cigarettes did and I use only that in a CF VV pen with a k1 glassomizer. That's my "cigarette" and I use it at 12mg. nic. My mods I use for my flavors in between my need for a cigarette fix at 6mg. nic. Just don't give up. You'll find something that will work for you. All the best!!!

Thanks Bonnie, wonderful to read, you've found what works for you, it's been a roller coaster ride for me past few weeks. I do love french vanilla/banana cream. Certainly hope WTA is the missing link in the puzzle for me. Thanks for words of encouragement, will do my best to stay off analogs.

 

[r77r7r]

What's SNUS ?

SNUS should be available @ the local gas station. They are a small packet of a tobacco like product that work well for quitting cigs. I believe they may have similar alkaLoids to WTA. There are several threads here on ecf...

 

[The Rebel]

What's SNUS ?

Snus is a form of smokless tobacco that originated in Sweden. Kind of like chewing tobacco except different. It comes in small soft pouches and the pouches are placed in the upper lip. No spitting is required which makes it perfect for everyday use. The tobacco contains the alkaloids you may be missing when you vape. WTA juice also contains the alkaloids, just at a higher cost. General brand snus is gaining popularity in the US and can be found at most major gas stations. It's from Sweden and works wonders to knock down the alkaloid cravings that some people experience when they try to quit analogs. They have a few different types, but it's cheap enough to experiment to find one you like. There are lots of information available through a quick Google search or you check out the Smokeless forum right here on EFC. Link is below. Snus was the only thing that helped me kick analogs for good three years ago. Without it, I doubt I would have ever quit. Good luck!

Smokeless tobacco

 

[The Rebel]

SNUS should be available @ the local gas station. They are a small packet of a tobacco like product that work well for quitting cigs. I believe they may have similar alkaLoids to WTA. There are several threads here on ecf...

Not to confuse the OP but snus is pure ground tobacco manufactured with stiff regulations in Sweden. Proven to have almost no cancer causing TSNAs. And it does contain all the alkaloids found in cigarettes. Do a quick search on Dvap and his research into tobacco alkaloids. Might take you a few weeks to get through all of it but it's good reading. Some people don't miss the alkaloids once they start vaping making it easier to quit analogs. Some people are just as addicted to the alkaloids as the nic, so vaping helps but doesn't cure the cravings. Snus can help for those people who find vaping doesn't quite cut it when it comes to quitting.

 

[r77r7r]

Not to confuse the OP but snus is pure ground tobacco manufactured with stiff regulations in Sweden. Proven to have almost no cancer causing TSNAs. And it does contain all the alkaloids found in cigarettes. Do a quick search on Dvap and his research into tobacco alkaloids. Might take you a few weeks to get through all of it but it's good reading. Some people don't miss the alkaloids once they start vaping making it easier to quit analogs. Some people are just as addicted to the alkaloids as the nic, so vaping helps but doesn't cure the cravings. Snus can help for those people who find vaping doesn't quite cut it when it comes to quitting.

Thanks Rebel. Was hoping one of the Snus guys would pop in and help.

 

[Arriss]

SNUS should be available @ the local gas station. They are a small packet of a tobacco like product that work well for quitting cigs. I believe they may have similar alkaLoids to WTA. There are several threads here on ecf...

Years ago, I used chewing tobacco, helped me quit smoking for several months, but was getting sores within my inner lip, went back to analogs. Snus sounds ideal, but from my research hard to get and shipping is expensive.

 

[Arriss]

Thanks from me to Rebel, a lot of helpful info, will do some research, see if I can find at local gas stations in town.

 

[r77r7r]

Years ago, I used chewing tobacco, helped me quit smoking for several months, but was getting sores within my inner lip, went back to analogs.

Snus sounds ideal, but from my research hard to get and shipping is expensive.

I understand. If it works out for you to use it vs WTA, I'm sure the people here will direct you to a less expensive source. GL

 

[Arriss]

I understand. If it works out for you to use it vs WTA, I'm sure the people here will direct you to a less expensive source. GL

I may try the snus method, WTA mix is confusing, Lol !!!

 

[sawlight]

I may try the snus method, WTA mix is confusing, Lol !!!

Tell me about it! That's why I stuck with NET's, and even then I had a hard time figuring out what was a NET and what wasn't on most sites!

 

[lynn508]

You probably haven't found the liquid you love. I fully believe that is half the battle. What changed for me was diy. I couldn't find a liquid I liked so I bought a few flavors and started adding them to pre bought juice to find what I liked. Finally I decided to cut out the middleman and experimented on my own.

 

[Cumulo Vapus]

Yesterday I vaped for the very first time...and I wonder if got a mild nicotine overdose or buzz. Slept only 4 hours instead of usual 8, and awoke with a slightly discernible, quickening heartbeat when I opened my eyes ....it only lasted a few seconds and vanished as I got out of bed.

I quit analogs three days before my vaping gear arrived...even thoughh I didnt smoke for three days, I did not feel any withdrawal or urge to light up....mostly since Im disgusted by the way cigs make me feel the next day...tired, with muscle ache and sleeping longer than necessary.

The liquid I began with was Black Note Prelude at 12 mg....now Im wondering whether I need to lower my nic to 6mg or maybe even 3. My previous analogs were winston lights and google shows that each stick contains 0.6mg of nicotine...I rarely exceeded a pack a day... 12-15 sticks was the norm.

BTW, I don't think I wouldve vaped more than 1.5-2.0 ml of liquid yesterday...it was a very well spaced out, leisurely vaping session definitely not a chain vape.

With this data, can some of the more experienced help me figure out how to address this?

Thanks

 

[lynn508]

People who vape the first time tend to experience anxiety. It is so new and foreign they attribute every new thing to it. Have you ever had a sleepless night in your life? You vaped now you are worried. You are probably scared to death you have messed up. I smoked 47 years and took my whole months cig budget and bought an ecig kit 5 years ago. I was worried and trying to figure out if it didn't work what would I do. Needless to say I had a bit of anxiety. 5 years later it is one of the best things I have ever done and I took a chance. I wish I had a quarter for all the people over the years on this forum have attributed every little illness to vaping. Yet smoking will kill them sooner or later, somehow they forget that.

 

[r77r7r]

Yesterday I vaped for the very first time...and I wonder if got a mild nicotine overdose or buzz. Slept only 4 hours instead of usual 8, and awoke with a slightly discernible, quickening heartbeat when I opened my eyes ....it only lasted a few seconds and vanished as I got out of bed.

I quit analogs three days before my vaping gear arrived...even thoughh I didnt smoke for three days, I did not feel any withdrawal or urge to light up....mostly since Im disgusted by the way cigs make me feel the next day...tired, with muscle ache and sleeping longer than necessary.

The liquid I began with was Black Note Prelude at 12 mg....now Im wondering whether I need to lower my nic to 6mg or maybe even 3. My previous analogs were winston lights and google shows that each stick contains 0.6mg of nicotine...I rarely exceeded a pack a day... 12-15 sticks was the norm.

BTW, I don't think I wouldve vaped more than 1.5-2.0 ml of liquid yesterday...it was a very well spaced out, leisurely vaping session definitely not a chain vape.

With this data, can some of the more experienced help me figure out how to address this?

Thanks

It doesn't sound like you're overdoing it. Quite possibly withdrawal. I 'm extremely glad that I didn't go cold turkey.

 

[fitzinthewindow]

Last year, I was able to kick the analogs, vaped for 5 months, returned back to analogs. This year it's been a challenging battle, I'm having a very difficult time quitting analogs. A few weeks ago, I began vaping, lot's of experimentation. I bought a pack of Misty analogs again. I've smoked analogs a pack a day for 41 years. 36 years Kools and 5 years Misty 120 green. A few years ago, I quit analogs cold turkey for 2 years, due to Bronchitis.

I've tried numerous flavors, nic levels, etc.... nothing seems to be working. Last year I used Kanger T3S tank, I quit for 5 months. Appears more I upgrade, my desire to smoke analogs is stronger.

My equipment now is Triton tank, .3 ohm coil, Itaste mvp 3.0 pro 30 watts.

Today, I went by vape shop purchased 6mg nic tobacco only, 50/50. After vaping my heart began to pound real hard, I felt spaced out, had to lay down. Took approx an hour to subside.

Afterwards I smoked an analog, took me 12 draws to complete cigarette, 5 minutes to smoke.

Then I vape 3mg pg/vg only, 15 puffs, 10 minutes. The entire time I was vaping, my brain tell's me, I need a cigarette, I need a cigarette. So, after vaping I fired up an analog, felt relieved, relaxed. Now, I'm on forum seeking assistance.

I've tried nic levels from .3 - 9mg, through all the nic levels, my brain tell's me, I need a cigarette, I need a cigarette.

Something in analogs, helps me relax, what ? I have no idea. I will admit I have high stress levels at times due to Firbro, which causes my nerves to go bezerk. Someday's, when my Fibro nerves are calm, I go an entire day without an analog's. Anyway, analogs helps calm my nerves, while vaping doesn't. Higher nic levels only causes heart palps, spaced out, dizzy.

Sorry so long, just disappointed/frustrated. Not able to kick the analog habit.

I guess I've been lucky. I smoked a pack and a half of Marlboro Reds for 50 years. Quit once for several years, but the longer I stayed away from cigarettes, the better they would smell. Vaping has had a totally different effect on me. Even though for the first couple of months of vaping I was still having an occasional cigarette, I didn't feel guilty about it. I felt that going from 30 cigs a day to 1 or 2 was a great improvement. Well, for me, the longer I vaped, the more disgusting cigarette smoke became. This is a new phenomenon that I had never experienced before. Suddenly that occasional cigarette brought me no pleasure, and just tasted like crap. I am now 5 months cigarette free. My clothes don't smell, my breath doesn't smell, my car doesn't smell. My teeth are whiter. My doctor is deleriously happy. Cigarettes truly smell like crap and I seldom have any urges to have one. So, hang in there. Shoot, have one every now and then if you need it, but hang in. Maybe, like me, they'll start to taste like crap and you can get away from them for good.

 

[therussellv]

Last year, I was able to kick the analogs, vaped for 5 months, returned back to analogs. This year it's been a challenging battle, I'm having a very difficult time quitting analogs. A few weeks ago, I began vaping, lot's of experimentation. I bought a pack of Misty analogs again. I've smoked analogs a pack a day for 41 years. 36 years Kools and 5 years Misty 120 green. A few years ago, I quit analogs cold turkey for 2 years, due to Bronchitis.

I've tried numerous flavors, nic levels, etc.... nothing seems to be working. Last year I used Kanger T3S tank, I quit for 5 months. Appears more I upgrade, my desire to smoke analogs is stronger.

My equipment now is Triton tank, .3 ohm coil, Itaste mvp 3.0 pro 30 watts.

Today, I went by vape shop purchased 6mg nic tobacco only, 50/50. After vaping my heart began to pound real hard, I felt spaced out, had to lay down. Took approx an hour to subside.

Afterwards I smoked an analog, took me 12 draws to complete cigarette, 5 minutes to smoke.

Then I vape 3mg pg/vg only, 15 puffs, 10 minutes. The entire time I was vaping, my brain tell's me, I need a cigarette, I need a cigarette. So, after vaping I fired up an analog, felt relieved, relaxed. Now, I'm on forum seeking assistance.

I've tried nic levels from .3 - 9mg, through all the nic levels, my brain tell's me, I need a cigarette, I need a cigarette.

Something in analogs, helps me relax, what ? I have no idea. I will admit I have high stress levels at times due to Firbro, which causes my nerves to go bezerk. Someday's, when my Fibro nerves are calm, I go an entire day without an analog's. Anyway, analogs helps calm my nerves, while vaping doesn't. Higher nic levels only causes heart palps, spaced out, dizzy.

Sorry so long, just disappointed/frustrated. Not able to kick the analog habit.

I started at 36 mg, maybe 24 would work for you

Sent from a dark, twisted corner of the back porch, covered in cobwebs and slightly damp.

 

[raylee]

I was on cigarettes for more than 40yrs. 60 a day for 25. I have not had one since Xmas eve 2014. I started vaping (if you call it vaping with what was available then) sometime in late 2009. I manage to cut down to 20 a day after more than 3 yrs. I gave up vaping 3 times during that period. One morning I lit cigarette and I find that it stinks and taste horrible, threw it away after 3 puffs and never look back. If you to ask me even days before, I will insists that I will never give up unless it is made illegal.

I would say from experience that your issue is quite common due to the way you vape and your setup. Do not wrap your lips too tight on the tip. Loosen it and relax and do a bit of slip streaming. Let some air in by the side. Start with a 3 mg nic level and slowly move higher as you cut down on the cigarettes. A lot of noob think that vaping is naturally simple. It is not rocket science but it takes a bit of afford to get it right. I will be starting a few topics to talk about my experience and share my thoughts on the problems I faced and how I managed to overcome them. To talk about it in one go will be difficult.

 

[TheRussianVaper]

Last year, I was able to kick the analogs, vaped for 5 months, returned back to analogs. This year it's been a challenging battle, I'm having a very difficult time quitting analogs. A few weeks ago, I began vaping, lot's of experimentation. I bought a pack of Misty analogs again. I've smoked analogs a pack a day for 41 years. 36 years Kools and 5 years Misty 120 green. A few years ago, I quit analogs cold turkey for 2 years, due to Bronchitis.

I've tried numerous flavors, nic levels, etc.... nothing seems to be working. Last year I used Kanger T3S tank, I quit for 5 months. Appears more I upgrade, my desire to smoke analogs is stronger.

My equipment now is Triton tank, .3 ohm coil, Itaste mvp 3.0 pro 30 watts.

Today, I went by vape shop purchased 6mg nic tobacco only, 50/50. After vaping my heart began to pound real hard, I felt spaced out, had to lay down. Took approx an hour to subside.

Afterwards I smoked an analog, took me 12 draws to complete cigarette, 5 minutes to smoke.

Then I vape 3mg pg/vg only, 15 puffs, 10 minutes. The entire time I was vaping, my brain tell's me, I need a cigarette, I need a cigarette. So, after vaping I fired up an analog, felt relieved, relaxed. Now, I'm on forum seeking assistance.

I've tried nic levels from .3 - 9mg, through all the nic levels, my brain tell's me, I need a cigarette, I need a cigarette.

Something in analogs, helps me relax, what ? I have no idea. I will admit I have high stress levels at times due to Firbro, which causes my nerves to go bezerk. Someday's, when my Fibro nerves are calm, I go an entire day without an analog's. Anyway, analogs helps calm my nerves, while vaping doesn't. Higher nic levels only causes heart palps, spaced out, dizzy.

Sorry so long, just disappointed/frustrated. Not able to kick the analog habit.

Sorry to hear that you have trouble adjusting, some things to consider.
1) I started with High MG in the morning, then half that through the day
2) I takes time to adjust, I felt craving so I just vaped more
3) I simulated analog experience (by this I mean that I used to come outside to smoke, so I switched to coming out to vape) physical memory, so your are replacing psychological action of analog use with vaping.
4) See if you are a stress smoker, if you are then it will be your biggest challenge, seek therapy for the stress you are having.

Hope this helps.

 

[The Rebel]

General also has a location finder on their website that will help to see if someplace local carries it. I haven't used it forever since most of local gas stations started carrying it a few years ago here in Michigan. So no promises on it being up to date. I copied a link below. And check out the Smokeless forum here on ECF, lots of fellow snusers who can help with any questions you may have. Also there's a beginners guide to snus that has some good info for new users. Find your happy place and you'll kick the habit no problem.

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