The standard flanged or non flanged boge or smoktek cartos fit diameter wise. For 510 drip tips etc. I found non punched super shorty on mad apes and another place I forget...maybe Avid vaper but I'm really not sure about the diameter being the same because these are for just carto vaping without tank. I don't want to buy the wrong things and pay shipping just to see. I do have good working carto punch and I did read if you leave a drip tip installed while punching will help it from deforming. Never worked with any this size. I'd live any feed back on them even if they aren't being used in a tank. I think they are my only option but anybody know anywhere else for something else? Thanks