Need Some Advice Please

[Stalker79]

I'll be getting a sigelei 100w Plus, Aspire Atlantis, LG ICR18650HE2 3.6V 2500mAh battery and Nitecore D2 charger.

My questions are;
1: Will these mod, tank and battery working fine with each other?
2: When should I recharge the battery? Will it be safe if I only recharge them after the mod refused to fire or is it better to recharge them when it reaches certain percentage?
3: What range of watt is ideal and safe to vape?
4: What other safety precautions do i need to know?

Any guides and advice would be great. Thank you.

 

[Rsunderl]

Hi Stalker and welcome to ECF!

We really want you to be safe when vaping, and it looks like you do, too by your questions - that's GOOD!

So ---

• Yes, the Sigelei 100w will work with the Aspire Atlantis.
  
  
• Although there are better chargers out there, the Nitecore D2 is a perfectly fine charger.
  
  
• You should recharge the battery before it totally refuses to fire. Most folks recharge when the battery voltage drops to around 3.6v or so.
  
  
• As far as the battery is concerned, I'm not familiar with that particular one. Perhaps someone who is will stop by, but I will also post some links below for more battery and safety info.
  
  
• There's a vaping power chart floating around the forum. Sorry, but I don't have it handy and am on my lunch break, but if you use the Search box at the top of the page and type "Power Chart" you'll find it

OK - the promised other links regarding batteries and safety:

For info on batteries Baditude has several excellent blog posts on the subject. His blogs on battery safety are a must read before you venture into the world of sub-ohm vaping.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...ected-icr.html

Reliable sources for batteries:
Batteries-Chargers-Flashlights-Only The Best
Authentic AW Batteries - RTD Vapor
Illumn.com - Flashlights, Batteries, Carry Gear, Intelligent LED Lighting, and More!

Do not buy batteries from eBay or Amazon. Some of their third party sellers sell fakes.

... and finally, here's a link that explains things in pretty simple terms: Vaping Battery Safety & Ohms Law Illustarted and explained in very simple terms


Hope that helps and wasn't too overwhelming

Happy and Safe Vaping!

 

[Nitrosniffer]

I did a lot of research for the shop I am at about the LG HE2 batteries, and for your application, they should work just fine. You're well within safety limits for the amp rating, they should offer plenty of juice as well.
As for charging your batteries, part of my bedtime routine is to put all of my batteries which I used that day on the charger. With the Atlantis tank, you probably won't go much over 40W (starts to get burny), so a pair of 2500mah batteries should last you all day, unless you decide to breathe through your vape - if that's the case, your local vape shop will love you for how much juice you will buy!
The Atlantis tends to operate well in a range of about 30-40W (although it can be pushed towards the 50W mark, but you may be changing coils quite often).
The biggest thing you are going to be concerned with, with regards to safety, will be your nic level. Where the nautilus was like getting nicotine through a drinking fountain, the Altantis will be like drinking from a fire hose. Your throat/lungs may be able to handle a 12+mg (not sure, though - it is pretty rough at that point), but you're on a pretty fast road to nic-sick. Other than that, keep your batteries together. Those two batteries should be for the mod only, and should both be charged at the same time.
Other than that, enjoy!

 

[peraspera]

I'll be getting a Sigelei 100w Plus, Aspire Atlantis, LG ICR18650HE2 3.6V 2500mAh battery and Nitecore D2 charger.

The Sigelei 100W Plus requires two batteries to run but you only mention purchasing one battery. You will want to get at least four batteries so you can charge one set while using the other.

My questions are;
1: Will these mod, tank and battery working fine with each other?

The combo is fine but the LG ICR18650HE2 3.6V 2500mAh battery is 20 amps continuous which is the max power input for the chip. They will work OK but it never hurts to have some extra power to allow for manufacturers fudging on their battery specs. It's getting very hard to find legitimate 30 amp continuous batteries but these are reliable, IMR 18650 30A Orbtronic SX30 Ultra High Drain Hybrid Rechargeable Battery.

2: When should I recharge the battery? Will it be safe if I only recharge them after the mod refused to fire or is it better to recharge them when it reaches certain percentage?

It will be safe to run your mod until the chip cuts off power due to low voltage coming from the batteries. However, you will get a bit more total run time over the life of the batteries if you charge them sooner. I usually charge my batteries when they are about 3.6 volts.

3: What range of watt is ideal and safe to vape?

Topper design, individual build, thickness of juice and different styles of vaping determine how much power is appropriate for any given topper. Some toppers will produce dry hits at less than 8 watts but some will produce an acceptable vape at over 50 watts. The general rule of thumb is to start with low power and turn it up gradually until the vape starts to taste slightly unpleasant then back off from there. Most people are using their Atlantis tanks in the 20–40 watt range.

4: What other safety precautions do i need to know?

Any guides and advice would be great. Thank you.

The Sigelei 100W Plus uses batteries that run in series. That means that you need to permanently "marry" the batteries you use in it.

Identical batteries should be purchased at the same time, always run in the device together and always charged together. The position of the batteries needs to be swapped in the device each time you use them. Labelling the batteries "1" and "2" or "A" and "B" helps with this. When one battery starts to go south both batteries should go to recycling.

Resting batteries before and after charging to allow the chemistry to return to room temperature puts less stress on them.

You might find these threads helpful, Sigelei 100W Owners Thread and Aspire Atlantis owner.

 

[RockfrdDrm]

I've been using the LG batteries for months now on my mech mods, and I run at around .15 ohms most of the time. You'll be just fine with them. They have a 35 amp rating, higher than the Sony VTC 5. I run 3 or 4 mg. on my nic level, any higher and I'd have an aneurism.........lol.

 

[peraspera]

The OP's LG ICR18650HE2 3.6V 2500mAh battery only has a 20 amp continuous rating. There are no standards for pulse ratings for batteries so they should be considered nothing more than meaningless marketing hype as far as safety for vaping is concerned.

 

[raitizz]

Although there are better chargers out there, the Nitecore D2 is a perfectly fine charger.

I'm curious, Rsunderl..

R

 

[perkidan]

I have an Xtar WP2 II and it's a great little charger.

 

[Danbrooks2k]

Your entire set up is going to be fine. Its a fine choice.

 

[Rsunderl]

I'm curious, Rsunderl..

R

Both the Pila IBC and the XTAR WP II are higher-end chargers that will charge your batteries and take care of them a bit better than the Nitecore.

Don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with the Nitecore. It's a fine charger, and what I currently use because it's what I was sold when I first started vaping. It does the job keeping my batteries charged and me vaping, but when I start getting a bit more serious, one of the things I intend to upgrade is my charger.

 

[raitizz]

Both the Pila IBC and the XTAR WP II are higher-end chargers that will charge your batteries and take care of them a bit better than the Nitecore.

Don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with the Nitecore. It's a fine charger, and what I currently use because it's what I was sold when I first started vaping. It does the job keeping my batteries charged and me vaping, but when I start getting a bit more serious, one of the things I intend to upgrade is my charger.

I use a D2 too. It charges my little AWs, my purple Efests and my VTC4s nicely. I use 'em in a regulated. I get my <4.2V and all is good. My question is - how is a Xtar WP2II "better" than a D2. I'm not saying it isn't, I'm not saying it is, but just HOW.
I charge mine at the "low" setting, 300mA.
Still curious.

R

 

[Rsunderl]

It has to do with the way the current and voltage is applied during the charging. In order to get the "best" charge while still maintaining the battery properly, you want a higher amperage running at the beginning, then falling off to a much lower amperage toward the end of the charging cycle, rather than either a steady amperage throughout and the suddenly cutting off at the end or one that slowly but steadily decreases the amperage throughout the charging cycle.

Both the Pila and the Xtar work by applying the higher amperage throughout a good portion of the charging cycle, then drop off the current in a curving fashion toward the end of the cycle. This is the best way to maintain most any battery.

I haven't personally run tests on my Nitecore, but from what I have heard other battery-knowledgeable people saying, it uses the "gradual diminishing" type of charging. Not a bad or improper way of charging, just not the best way.

 

[raitizz]

Both the Pila and the Xtar work by applying the higher amperage throughout a good portion of the charging cycle, then drop off the current in a curving fashion toward the end of the cycle. This is the best way to maintain most any battery.

That's exactly how the D2 behaves, IMHO. You can watch it on the display.

R

 

[Rsunderl]

In that case, I stand corrected.

Happy Vaping!

 

[raitizz]

I now have 2 purple Efest 18500 batteries on the charger. At ~4.13V the mA charge rate started to drop, as always..

R

 

[raitizz]

In that case, I stand corrected.

Happy Vaping!

Happy vaping indeed.

R

 

[Stalker79]

Rsunderl, thanks for your tips. I went to every links you gave and it is very useful. However I'm unable to find a proper "power chart". I can't seem to find any for 0.5ohm (Aspire Atlantis).

 

[Stalker79]

peraspera, thanks for answering and those links you provided. I'll check them right away. yes, i'll be getting 4 batteries, sorry for not being clear. As for battery position swapping after each recharge, I guess I might forgot to rotate their position sometimes. Would this cause major problems?

 

[Stalker79]

does anyone know how much time do i need to fully charge a LG ICR18650HE2 3.6V 2500mAh battery using Nitecore D2 charger?

 

[peraspera]

peraspera, thanks for answering and those links you provided. I'll check them right away. yes, i'll be getting 4 batteries, sorry for not being clear. As for battery position swapping after each recharge, I guess I might forgot to rotate their position sometimes. Would this cause major problems?

Probably not unless you forget to switch positions often. However, you should not be betting your face and hands on this.

Number the batteries as pairs with something permanent like a paint pen or nail polish. Then mark each pair of batteries "L" and "R" with a magic marker. Immediately after pulling batteries for charging I erase the "L" and "R" with alcohol and switch the "L" and "R" on each battery. That way I can easily keep track.