Need some safety advice

[Tha Kave Mahn]

I'm fairly new to the whole vaping scene. I was give a sigelei 50w V2 and a Panasonic NCR18650B. Are these safe to use together? I would really like to keep my face and fingers! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

The ncr18650b is a 6.8a CDR battery, the manufacturer recommends using a 20a CDR battery.

 

[Darth Omerta]

Maybe grab a couple of Sony VTC4s or LG HE4s. Both great batteries! Cant speak for the other (also apparently great) batteries. Check out @Mooch bench tests. In his blog.

 

[Tha Kave Mahn]

I have some MNKE IMR 18650 batteries that I use for my flashlight. Would they be a better match until I get paid?

 

[Darth Omerta]

Not sure. Havent looked into mnke before. I generally dont bother looking up battery info unless its provided by @Mooch

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I have some MNKE IMR 18650 batteries that I use for my flashlight. Would they be a better match until I get paid?

The 1500mah mnke imr is a 20a cdr, but 1500mah will have fairly short between recharge life.
New batteries are around $6 - $8 each.

 

[Tha Kave Mahn]

The 1500mah mnke imr is a 20a cdr, but 1500mah will have fairly short between recharge life.
New batteries are around $6 - $8 each.

I'm going to stop in the local vape shop tomorrow and get some better batteries. I've been using the Aspire cf sub ohm with the built in battery, so this is my first time having to deal with removable batteries.

 

[suprtrkr]

According to Mooch's Safety Chart, the Panny 18650 B will shut down and not pass current above 10 amps. He rates it as safe, but it also won't work at higher current draws. In other words, it's safe enough, but it's not what you want. Let me recommend either Sony VTC4s or Samsung 25Rs for the job. I read in a thread here yesterday Illumn had the VTC4s on sale in a 4-pack for 6 bucks each. RTDVapor was also having a 4-pack sale on VTC4s at $29 and including 2 safe storage boxes last time I looked. THe other supplier I will recommend is Orbtronic.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I doubt decent batteries will be $6- $8 at a B&M.
Don't buy any counterfeit, fake or re wrapped & erroneously labeled batteries.

A few reputable dealers / vendors;
RTD vapor
Illumination supply
Orbtronics

 

[Tha Kave Mahn]

According to Mooch's Safety Chart, the Panny 18650 B will shut down and not pass current above 10 amps. He rates it as safe, but it also won't work at higher current draws. In other words, it's safe enough, but it's not what you want. Let me recommend either Sony VTC4s or Samsung 25Rs for the job. I read in a thread here yesterday Illumn had the VTC4s on sale in a 4-pack for 6 bucks each. RTDVapor was also having a 4-pack sale on VTC4s at $29 and including 2 safe storage boxes last time I looked. THe other supplier I will recommend is Orbtronic.

Thank you for all the info. All this battery talk sounds like a foreign language to me. So I'm doing my best to learn how it all works.

 

[Tha Kave Mahn]

I doubt decent batteries will be $6- $8 at a B&M.
Don't buy any counterfeit, fake or re wrapped & erroneously labeled batteries.

A few reputable dealers / vendors;
RTD vapor
Illumination supply
Orbtronics

Yeah I just checked some local shops websites and they are asking 15-20 a piece. Think I'll just order from a reputable online dealer. All this battery stuff is so confusing right now.

 

[suprtrkr]

Thank you for all the info. All this battery talk sounds like a foreign language to me. So I'm doing my best to learn how it all works.

Take a look at the page from @Mooch 's blog I linked. It's a chart and it will be easy to find the battery you're thinking about buying on it, to see what kind of load it will handle. But all you really need to know for your mod is Sony VTC4 or Samsung 25R. Either will work. Do buy them from a reputable supplier, though. I linked you three of them.

 

[Nboprc]

Check RTD Vapor

 

[serene.in.dallas]

I'm going to stop in the local vape shop tomorrow and get some better batteries. I've been using the Aspire cf sub ohm with the built in battery, so this is my first time having to deal with removable batteries.

Imo skip the b&m. They will be expensive and could be fakes and rewraps, and the store might not even know. Topwater elvis recommended the best sites, cheap and absolutely genuine products. Imo batteries are like tires and brakes on your car, dont go cheap. What you got now isnt ideal, but that aspire cf mod should definitely hold you over till you get an order in.

 

[Tha Kave Mahn]

Imo skip the b&m. They will be expensive and could be fakes and rewraps, and the store might not even know. Topwater elvis recommended the best sites, cheap and absolutely genuine products. Imo batteries are like tires and brakes on your car, dont go cheap. What you got now isnt ideal, but that aspire cf mod should definitely hold you over till you get an order in.

Yeah I'm gonna just order from one of the sites listed above. I sure don't want a time bomb in my hand with the wrong battery or with a counterfeit/rewrap waiting to blow.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

According to Mooch's Safety Chart, the Panny 18650 B will shut down and not pass current above 10 amps. He rates it as safe, but it also won't work at higher current draws. In other words, it's safe enough, but it's not what you want. Let me recommend either Sony VTC4s or Samsung 25Rs for the job. I read in a thread here yesterday Illumn had the VTC4s on sale in a 4-pack for 6 bucks each. RTDVapor was also having a 4-pack sale on VTC4s at $29 and including 2 safe storage boxes last time I looked. THe other supplier I will recommend is Orbtronic.

It depends on if the OP has a protected or non protected version of the ncr18650b.
An unprotected cell won't 'shut down' at any given amp load.
Neither version is considered a high drain battery.

Using a 6.8a battery in a device with a typical 10a drain & a 20a max drain is not "safe enough".

 

[Mooch]

Yeah I'm gonna just order from one of the sites listed above. I sure don't want a time bomb in my hand with the wrong battery or with a counterfeit/rewrap waiting to blow.

Yea, battery stuff can be very confusing. Especially when all we want to do is just have a decent vape.
But it's great to see you approaching all this carefully! Check out @Baditude blogs. There's really great stuff there for learning about batteries.

 

[Bootiewootsy]

Today I went to one of our Bm places to get a mech battery and atomizer.. He was using one and I liked it so said set me up with it.. Also purchased a 30 ml bottle of banana nut bread which he had a receipt and made it while I waited.. I usually make my own, but was out of walnut flavor that I used.. I was amazed at all the different flavors he added.
Oh well, I came home the bottle of vaper was excellent, but I couldn't get the battery and the nano rebuildable to work together, so I talked with the on line vender that had the mod I purchased. He was surprised that the guy had given me the lemo 2o go with the A-Mod as he said it could blow up as it didn't have an adjustable 510 connec ter pin. I have read and reread the safety things I should know and knew something was wrong. So I order the atomizer he recommended to go with the mod.. Now I am using the lemo 2 on the istick.No problems except if it gets on its side it leaks out the air holes.. Otherwise it is very nice. I had to reduce the nicotine to be able to use the .5ohms that was included. Nicotine was to strong. I am enjoying it, but rather concerned that the sales person was using the same thing and wonder how he is doing it.. the 510 is not adjustable and it doesn't connect with the battery. Oh well another shinning thing is on the way..
My husand started his chemo two days ago and tonight is in the hospital.. Hopefully it will not be to bad and he will be able to continue.. The are having him hydrated so that his Kidney creatine level comes down. It has gone up to 7 from 2.5.
Thanks for all you prayers and thoughts. I find coming here and reading helps me with my mind staying positive.

 

[suprtrkr]

It depends on if the OP has a protected or non protected version of the ncr18650b.
An unprotected cell won't 'shut down' at any given amp load.
Neither version is considered a high drain battery.

Using a 6.8a battery in a device with a typical 10a drain & a 20a max drain is not "safe enough".

I stand corrected.

 

[Tha Kave Mahn]

Yea, battery stuff can be very confusing. Especially when all we want to do is just have a decent vape.
But it's great to see you approaching all this carefully! Check out @Baditude blogs. There's really great stuff there for learning a bit about batteries.

I want to be as safe as possible while getting a good vape. I'm glad there is a place I can come to and get the right information from a group of experienced people. I'm so excited to play with my new toy but don't want to do it without following safety protocols first.