need to exploit Someone's experience...please

[nyx]

been mixing my own liquids for almost two months now and could use a little help from Someone who's been at it a bit longer. My mixes come out well enough that I can use them, but I've yet to really nail the consistency/viscosity. I'Ve got two different Versions of the juice Calculator and use a PG based nicotine liquid (usually cut the mg to a little more than half), glycerine (it's what I cut with), and flavors from Capella and LorAnn's. for the 12mL batches I was gonna do tonight, for instance, I was going to try: 4mL of 48 mg PG nic/liq+ 5.6mL glycerine + 2.4mL flavoring... any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.O yeah--in case it makes a difference, btw: I'm using 510s, BE112s, and 901s/4075s.. all on DIY boxes with 2 parallel 14500s.

 

[Switched]

been mixing my own liquids for almost two months now and could use a little help from Someone who's been at it a bit longer. My mixes come out well enough that I can use them, but I've yet to really nail the consistency/viscosity. I'Ve got two different Versions of the juice Calculator and use a PG based nicotine liquid (usually cut the mg to a little more than half), glycerine (it's what I cut with), and flavors from Capella and LorAnn's. for the 12mL batches I was gonna do tonight, for instance, I was going to try: 4mL of 48 mg PG nic/liq+ 5.6mL glycerine + 2.4mL flavoring... any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.O yeah--in case it makes a difference, btw: I'm using 510s, BE112s, and 901s/4075s.. all on DIY boxes with 2 parallel 14500s.

You are a little heavy on the VG. (47%)

I would reduce your recipe to the following 70/30

nic 4ml 33%
PG 2ml 17%
VG 3.6ml 30%
Fla 2.4ml 20% = 12 ml @15,8 mg

 

[Moonflame]

That's what I was going to suggest. I usually keep my VG to about 30% of the mix. I'm not totally accurate all the time because I eyeball it. I use 48 mg nic and cut it to about 16 mg by filling 1/3 of the bottle with nic juice, adding the flavoring (which requires different amounts depending on what type of flavoring it is), adding about 1 drop of vodka per ml size of the bottle for throat hit, add PG until there is only about 30% more room in the bottle and fill the rest with VG. Very scientific method huh . When I am mixing 12 mg juice I do the same thing but I start with filling the bottle 1/4 with nic juice to start.

 

[nyx]

poop.. that's what i was afraid of (i've tried every other variation).. i've even tried cutting the glycerine itself (all the way up to 50/50 solutions with distilled water or PGA--PGA came closest to getting the job done, btw), but i'm seeing that that's just not going to do it.. /sigh

thanks much for the responses, y'all, i appreciate it.. going to have to finally order some, i suppose. none of the pharmacies around here will so much as talk to me about PG, let alone order or sell me any.. meh.

 

[Switched]

poop.. that's what i was afraid of (i've tried every other variation).. i've even tried cutting the glycerine itself (all the way up to 50/50 solutions with distilled water or PGA--PGA came closest to getting the job done, btw), but i'm seeing that that's just not going to do it.. /sigh

thanks much for the responses, y'all, i appreciate it.. going to have to finally order some, i suppose. none of the pharmacies around here will so much as talk to me about PG, let alone order or sell me any.. meh.

Not trying to be an ..., it all depends if you look like a bum or not. Propylene Glycol is used in pharmaceuticals as a binding agent for pills. That's right every aspirin you take is held together with it.

Not knowing if you are male or female it is hard for the following advice. I was a premium cigar smoker and had quite a bit of PG on hand. It is used to maintain humidity in a humidor. PG in H2O at 50/50 will maintain humidity at 70%.

When I went to the pharmacy to get some I was asked what for. I explained what it was for and they were cool with that. BTW don't try to bull.... a pharmacist, they know there ..... Because the pharmacist was a woman and new about PG and humidors. She asked me how much I wanted and I stated a litre or so. She said they didn't carry that much but would order it in for me. I said OK. She also stated that they had about 50 mls or so I could buy to tide me over. I bought it.

So go into a pharmacy and just asked for it, saying it's for your humidor. This is widely known in the cigar community and you should not haver a problem. However, if ya look like a fraudulent individual, order behind the safety of your PC

 

[nyx]

lol.. no worries, Switched, i know what you mean. only physically went into two stores, called every other pharmacy within an hour of here though.. not one of them asked me anything about it, they just check with whomever and then shake their head from side-to-side while giving me that fake "aw, i'm so sad for you" face. and as far appearances go i probably do look like a bum most days, heh, but i used to be an English prof at the local university here and can look the part when needed.

anyhow.. the parents are going to check some feed stores over by them, tomorrow, that i didn't know about, so i'm crossing my fingers for that to come through at the moment. otherwise, i'll try going into the places i called last time and see if my luck fares any better that way. and i know i could just order some online.. but i don't do credit cards or banks.. call me crazy, but i've never had much faith in that whole game, heh. ;b

all the best.

 

[SuZamme]

I just called the pharmacy dept at CVS and they ordered it for me. I went in a couple days later and picked it up. 473ml USP by Paddock Laboratories. CVS #6712

I told them it was for my fog machine at the studio. Not a lie except I don't have a fog machine at this studio...did in California.

I have now been in and gotten syringes, tweezers, and bottles. Even ask them if Everclear would melt plastic bottles. I have told them this stuff is for PV's and showed them.

Of course, this is a town of 450 but the pharmacy doesn't know me - at least they didn't until now.

 

[Switched]

I just called the pharmacy dept at CVS and they ordered it for me. I went in a couple days later and picked it up. 473ml USP by Paddock Laboratories. CVS #6712

I told them it was for my fog machine at the studio. Not a lie except I don't have a fog machine at this studio...did in California.

I have now been in and gotten syringes, tweezers, and bottles. Even ask them if Everclear would melt plastic bottles. I have told them this stuff is for PV's and showed them.

Of course, this is a town of 450 but the pharmacy doesn't know me - at least they didn't until now.

Betcha they regret it now JK

I knew VG was used in foggers I didn't know PG was. I learned something today, time for bed. Tata

 

[nyx]

I just called the pharmacy dept at CVS and they ordered it for me. I went in a couple days later and picked it up. 473ml USP by Paddock Laboratories. CVS #6712

I told them it was for my fog machine at the studio. Not a lie except I don't have a fog machine at this studio...did in California.

I have now been in and gotten syringes, tweezers, and bottles. Even ask them if Everclear would melt plastic bottles. I have told them this stuff is for PV's and showed them.

Of course, this is a town of 450 but the pharmacy doesn't know me - at least they didn't until now.

see.. that's why it irritates me that i couldn't get anything more than "How do you spell that?" and "No" out of all the ppl i talked too. CVS and Walgreens are the two that i actually went to, as well.. they're no more than three blocks from my house, so of course that would have been too convenient. ;b

grats all the same, though. ;D

 

[Blaze]

If your willing to change your mind about online, here's a linky

Paddock Laboratories - Propylene Glycol - 480 ml

PlanetRX.com, Paddock Labs 480ml for $11.21

 

[Moonflame]

If you don't like using credit cards you could do what I do and get a prepaid Greendot card at Walmart. I put on whatever amount I need and order without worrying that someone can use my info or that I can spend money I can't afford . Another good one for pharmacists is that you are using it to make homemade lotions. I don't understand why pharmacists even ask questions, it's not like PG is a controlled substance or anything and it has a multitude of uses. Heck, you could be using it to make your own flavoring, or toothpaste, or soap, or sexual lube. PG and VG are the main ingredients in KY Liquid. Tell them you have an allergy to one of the preservatives in KY so you make your own .

 

[MacDiver]

I got mine at Walgreens on a special order for $17 and some change. I called it in and picked it up the next day. I told the pharmacist what it was for. He had never heard of vaping.

 

[nyx]

talked to a completely different person at the CVS around the corner just now... it will be there tomorrow.. she even asked if i wanted to set it up for periodic re-order so that they'd always have some, heh.. same store, diff employee, made all the difference in the world.. just depends on the person you get to talk to, i suppose.

so: i'm good to go now and will be keeping my mixes in the 80/20 to 70/30 range from here on out. thanks again, all of you, for your info and insights.. turns out all i needed was the encouragement ;D

vape on, and all the best.

 

[nyx]

and lol @ Moonflame.. right on ;b

 

[garyd]

lol.. no worries, Switched, i know what you mean. only physically went into two stores, called every other pharmacy within an hour of here though.. not one of them asked me anything about it, they just check with whomever and then shake their head from side-to-side while giving me that fake "aw, i'm so sad for you" face. and as far appearances go i probably do look like a bum most days, heh, but i used to be an English prof at the local university here and can look the part when needed.

anyhow.. the parents are going to check some feed stores over by them, tomorrow, that i didn't know about, so i'm crossing my fingers for that to come through at the moment. otherwise, i'll try going into the places i called last time and see if my luck fares any better that way. and i know i could just order some online.. but i don't do credit cards or banks.. call me crazy, but i've never had much faith in that whole game, heh. ;b

all the best.

Here's the best price I've found on PG, they say the pic is bad and the PG is clear:
Propylene Glycol USP - Propylene Glycol - Bulk - Wholesale

 

[Rocketman]

Once you get your supply of PG, VG, and BeeGee,
Try to standardize your mix viscosity. Here's a neat little setup I use so I get about the same results liter after liter.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/57189-e-juice-viscosity-test.html

Rocket

 

[Switched]

Once you get your supply of PG, VG, and BeeGee,
Try to standardize your mix viscosity. Here's a neat little setup I use so I get about the same results liter after liter.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/57189-e-juice-viscosity-test.html

Rocket

Now that is what we need Bravo!

 

[nyx]

that's brilliant, Rocketman, will definitely give that a try.

in other news: got my PG from CVS this morning and started remediying some of those mixes.. my tongue & lungs are grateful ;b

thanks again, everyone.

 

[blueeyekelly]

I called both my local pharmacies when I first went looking for PG, already had VG for cosmetic stuff I make, and I swear the one lady acted like I asked her for ingredients do something illegal... so I just bought online, besides would not want to deal with local pharmacies was in one today and for a little bottle of VG (8-10 oz I think) they wanted 13 bucks... LOL